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What To Do With a Hundred Hard Drives?

Makoto916 writes "In five years with my current employer as the IT administrator, I've amassed a sizable cabinet of discarded hard drives; just shy of 100, in fact. All of the drives range in size from 20GB up to 300GB. They've all been stored in anti-stat bags, and spot checks of even the oldest ones show that most of them still work. Individually, they're mostly useless for our line of work, which is digital video production. However, the collective storage potential is quite significant. They are of varying size and speed, but the one commonality is they're all IDE. What is the best way to approach connecting all of these devices and realizing their storage potential? On a budget, of course. Now, I'd never use such an array for critical data storage, but it certainly would be useful as a massive backup array to our existing SAN that does store critical data. I have several spare and functioning PCs, but not nearly enough to utilize their internal IDE controllers; even with multiple add-in controllers, it still wouldn't be enough. Not to mention the nightmare of managing a bunch of independent PCs. I've looked into ATA Over Ethernet and there's a lot of potential there, but current 15 to 20 bay AoE cabinets are expensive, and single device enclosures are so rare that they're also expensive. Are there any hardware hackers out there who have crafted their own home-brew AoE systems? Could they scale to 100 drives? Is there a better way?"

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  1. Bunches of small drives by nurb432 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I doubt its worth using a bunch of old smaller drives.

    between the power requirements and all the extra hardware needed to run them i would just sell them all on ebay and take the $ to buy a couple of huge drives, mirror and do iscsi with them.

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    1. Re:Bunches of small drives by ElboRuum · · Score: 5, Funny

      But d0000000d, yer missing the point. He wants to do something 1337 hAxXoRz with all these drives. I mean, really, selling them on eBay would be what the n0rmLz would do.

    2. Re:Bunches of small drives by wtfispcloadletter · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yep, just not worth it. The magnets are worth more than the drives. Take 'em apart and sell or use the magnets. Destroy or recycle the rest of the drive.

    3. Re:Bunches of small drives by LurkerXXX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Who has time to do that on almost 100 drives?

      Probably a guy who is trying to figure out how to hook up 100 ide drives into a backup system.

    4. Re:Bunches of small drives by grommit · · Score: 5, Funny

      Who has time to do that on almost 100 drives?

      People that don't actually stare at the screen the entire time a disk is being wiped.
    5. Re:Bunches of small drives by wooferhound · · Score: 5, Informative
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    6. Re:Bunches of small drives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, at least it's not like the Windows 98 defrag utility, where you could stare for hours until you realized you've been doing nothing but staring at the screen the whole time.

      Time well wasted, I guess...

    7. Re:Bunches of small drives by Christophotron · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I strongly disagree with turning them into garbage prematurely. Sell or give away on ebay/craigslist/freecycle/whatever instead. There are lots of people who can make good use of a few end-of-life-but-still-working medium capacity drives. First reasonable comment I've seen here yet... WTF is wrong with you people, thinking that these drives are useless and "the magnets are worth more than the drives" ????? I still have abundant uses for any drive 40GB and above. Several of my systems run their OS on a 40GB drive. Hell, that's even enough for Vista! And 300GB is nothing to sneeze at! I run my RAID array of pr0n on 2x300GB Maxtor PATA drives. I first started to use Linux seriously on a computer that was pulled out of a dumpster (P4 1.7Ghz Prescott, 256MB RAM, 40GB HDD, crappy POS Albatron motherboard). By all means, sell them on eBay and if they are cheap enough I will snap many of them up. So will many other people. Just because you are 'privileged' enough to have modern hardware doesn't mean people can't appreciate the stuff you treat as 'garbage'.
  2. hard diskus throw by mytrip · · Score: 5, Funny

    spin around in a circle and see who can throw them the greatest distance

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  3. Play dominos by r_jensen11 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Granted, you have a few less than others, but it's worth giving a shot

  4. Free Geek by paroneayea · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Would be a super generous donation, but if you honestly don't have a practical idea, perhaps donate to your local Free Geek chapter? Good drives at that size could help in the fight for bringing technology to those who couldn't afford it otherwise.

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  5. Seriously? power requirements are high to scale. by artifex2004 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ebay and use the revenue to buy a few very large size drives. Running a ton of tiny drives on standby all the time just makes no sense from both a power and heat standpoint.

  6. Unpopular choice: by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Destroy them. If they stored what you describe, you do not want proprietary information leaking out. Especially, if you are the one that is in charge of "doing something with said HD's". Safer to destroy them.

    Of course, all slashdotters would say either build an array or donate. In reality, the company should keep the biggest for desktop usage and shred the rest.

    Safer for you and the company in terms of liability.

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  7. There is huge potential... by MiniMike · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think this is how Google started. Throw in some other random hardware and wait for the VC to come rolling in!

  8. Re:Thumper by fuzzix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A Thumper or Drivebox RAID system. Or you could turn 'em into Thom Yorke..
  9. Re:Not technically legal, but by denzacar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why would you give away perfectly good magnets to a douchebag when you can just as well key his hummer?

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  10. Data recovery services by Loualbano2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I would call your local data recovery service as they sometimes are interested in buying old drives of no particular size to use the controller cards on them.

    Apparently, a lot of failed hard drives are not bad because of their physical platters, but because of the drive logic. These places need old drives for replacement controllers that you probably can't buy from the manufacturer.

    ft

  11. Re:100 ata hard drives? forget going green by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    i can't imagine the power to run 100 hard drives. Imagine no more!

    power_to_run_100_hard_drives = 100 * power_to_run_1_hard_drive
  12. Careful with the magnets by mangu · · Score: 5, Informative

    Take 'em apart and sell or use the magnets

    Just keep in mind these are *STRONG* magnets. When you take it apart the magnets may smash into each other. This could send particles flying away in a direction that, according to Murphy, is where your eyes are. I know this by experience, lucky for me I wear glasses. And if some of your flesh is between the magnets, it's painful.
    1. Re:Careful with the magnets by rubah · · Score: 5, Interesting

      since they're strong, they should donate them to the local university physics students so they can build their electric motors!

      I wish we would've had some nice hardcore magnets when that project came up!

  13. Re:1 word: magnets by wagnerrp · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Even better, they're monopoles (Halbach Arrays). Build your own maglev toys.

  14. Re:Not technically legal, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Make it a true geeks trick. Put the magnets on the inside of the fender spelling out "Very Small Penis". Then shake some iron filings over it. It'll keep trying to reform the words as he wipes it off and each day when you walk by it just sprinkle some more filings over the spot to keep the joke going. See how long it takes him to figure out they are on the inside or he sells the Hummer. If you can get inside the Hummer you could also stick a fist full inside the drivers seat cushion so they demagnetize his credit cards. Once again the gift that keeps on giving as it keeps demagnetizing each replacement set of cards.....In short magnets are useful for tormenting yuppies.

  15. Donate? by pluther · · Score: 5, Informative
    Drives that size would be an awesome donation for a charity such as (blatant plug) Geeks Without Borders.

    A lot of our donated computers don't come with hard drives, so we're always in need of hard drives more than just about anything else.

    We wipe all drives to DoD standards before ever putting them in anything, too. (Well, anything other than the machines we use to wipe 'em.)

    If you don't want to ship them all the way to Eugene, there's lots of other charities that do the same kind of thing, and probably have the same disproportionate computer to hard drive donation ratio.

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  16. Re:1 word: magnets by Everyone+Is+Seth · · Score: 5, Informative

    Umm, we don't even know if a magnetic monopole exists. Currently, theory is the only place you can find one.

  17. Hard drives? We need hard drives! by bencyberedge · · Score: 5, Insightful
    You know, you could provide a great service with those drives.

    We refurbish computers and put them in the homes of low-income people, nonprofits, churches, senior centers, etc. We always need drives, and late-model computers to keep our refurbishers busy. We are a nonprofit and feel that this is an important way to bridge the digital divide.

    I don't know where you're located, but we would love to have those drives, and will wipe them to Mil-spec and reuse them. that keeps them out of landfills (good for the environment) and puts good computers into the homes and tech centers of low-income communities (good for our communities and your kharma). We'll pay shipping if you would like to donate them to us.

    Check us out on the web at www.ReliaTech.org. and give me a call at 510 236-7000 to discuss donating those drives and/or computers.

    By the way, that donation gives you a tax deduction, too.

    thanks!

    Ben

  18. Re:Not technically legal, but by cunina · · Score: 5, Funny

    I stand humbled by your brilliance. If there were a Nobel Prize for malicious pranks, it would be yours.

  19. DoD now specifies to degause or slag drives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you use the software approved by the DoD for 'cleaning' you should be safe. First off, the DoD is no longer responsible for writing the standards, NIST is. Their document that covers this is NIST 800-88.

    The standards for data sanitization is more stringent now. Anything that is more sensitive than Classified, and leaves the control of the organization disposing of the drives, needs to be either put through a degauser, chopped up into tiny pieces, or turned into slag. If the media is simply going to be re-used with-in the organization then wiping is okay.

  20. Re:1 word: magnets by Iron+Condor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Impossible.

    Just because you don't grasp physics doesn't make it go away.

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  21. Re:1 word: magnets by Rick+Bentley · · Score: 5, Informative

    (geek)

    There are no magnetic monopoles in theory, either. Maxwell's four equations that define all of Electromagnetism, includes Gauss's Law of Magnetism. This law states that magnetic fields don't in net diverge.

    Its usually written in differential form as: del * B = 0 (del dot B = 0). Note that Physics students from bush-league universities might write the equation in integral form, but that's either a product of their deficient education or maybe some kind of genetic defect.

    More here (wikipedia):
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss's_law_for_magnetism and here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations

    Yeah, I suppose magnetic monopoles might exist and then we'd re-write the laws, but there's no reason to assume so. There is a natural temptation to look at magnetism the same as electricity (individual charges, like electrons and protons, being analogous to "North" and "South" monopoles), but probably the most useful way to think of magnetism is as a relativistic effect of electrostatics... once you do that, there's no reason to assume any kind of magnetic monopole at all.

    (/geek)

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