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MPAA Wants To Prevent Recording Movies On DVRs

I_am_Rambi writes "At the request of theatrical film makers, the Federal Communications Commission on Friday quietly launched a proceeding on whether to let video program distributors remotely block consumers from recording recently released movies on their DVRs. The technology that does this is called Selectable Output Control (SOC), but the FCC restricts its use. The Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) wants a waiver on that restriction in the case of high-definition movies broadcast prior to their release as DVDs." The FCC is soliciting comments until June 25th.

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  1. Good luck with that by dreamchaser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I can watch it, I can record it. There will always be a way to do so. They can try to use the laws and technology to stop me, but they will lose in the end.

    1. Re:Good luck with that by dreamchaser · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They simply want enough people not being able to record.

      Yes, and they also want to make people into criminals for exercising Fair Use rights so they can continue to reap huge margins on plastic discs.

    2. Re:Good luck with that by Naughty+Bob · · Score: 5, Interesting

      They simply want enough people not being able to record. Probably wont work in the long run. It's an interesting strategy, stop people recording shit by forcing the poor blighters to download it all months in advance... Genius.
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    3. Re:Good luck with that by k33l0r · · Score: 5, Informative

      Same deal with copy protection on games. Only the people who buy the product legally have to suffer with it [...] The only people they'll really piss off are their customers.

      Hear, hear. Copy protection is the reason why I can't play The Battle for Middle-Earth II on my Vista pc, the damn game can't see the legitimate CD through the WinXP compatibility mode.

      Has copy protection stopped pirate games? No.
      Has DRM stopped downloading? No.
      Such measures just punish the folks who actually pay for their content...

  2. If you can watch it on a computer by Froeschle · · Score: 5, Funny

    then you can record it. Software such as Mythtv makes it possible, until of course the TV cards somehow become so functionally disabled that they refuse to work with Linux. oh wait..

  3. Re:draconian bulloni! by retech · · Score: 5, Informative

    In '97 a friend of mine was offered a recording contract by Sony. It was a 1000+ page tome. He read it over for 3 months and told them to piss off. After Sony was said and done with them they'd have gotten about 1.3 cents a song per album sale. Unless the artist(s) directly produce it themselves I have not purchased an album since that point in time. I never will again either.

  4. *aa wants to prevent content consumption by nurb432 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What they all want is a way to prevent possession of any content, and you have to lease it from them per use for the rest of your life..

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  5. Comcast already does this... by Holistic+Missile · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In the Chicago area, Comcast blocks some content from recording. Many of the on-demand movies and some of the premium channel programming cannot be recorded by a standard DVR. This is on digital cable in standard definition, using an off-the-shelf Philips DVR (not Comcast's).

    My DVR will buffer these programs, allowing rewind, pause, etc. If I try to record it to the hard drive it refuses to, giving a message of 'protected'. I'm not sure exactly how they do it - I always thought they may be broadcasting Macrovision codes with the signal.

    I suppose it could be hacked by a hardware hack like removing the hard drive and collecting the movie from the buffer, but nothing that is being broadcast is worth the effort! It's bad enough that I waste time sitting in front of the tube viewing this 'high value content'. I'm sure as hell not wasting more time trying to copy it. It is nearly summer here - there are much better things to do most days.

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  6. Reading the Article ftw by sweede · · Score: 5, Informative

    If anyone had actually read the article, you'll find out that currently Movies are NOT released to TV (pay per view or other) before they're released to DVD. the MPAA wants to change that so that they are shown on TV (PPV or other) AS or BEFORE the DVD release. But before it changes that time schedule, it wants to know if the FCC will create a ruling that would prevent DVR to able to record the movie BEFORE its released to DVD.

    So in other words

    Theater -> DVD -> TV , won't have the non-record flag set
    Theater -> TV -> DVD WILL have the non-record flag set until AFTER it's released on DVD.

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    1. Re:Reading the Article ftw by the_B0fh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And you think it's only going to be limited in this case, right? Just like all those anti-terrorism laws will only be strictly restricted to fighting terrorists. Really, you can trust us, we are the government.

  7. Re:If anyone tried to strip me of anything... by oldspewey · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't abide even to the "do not bring your own popcorn" rules. Why stop at popcorn? I bring my own Hibachi grill, a bag of charcoal, and a couple of nice racks baby back ribs. By the time the trailers are over, the ribs are nicely done and I can enjoy my meal with a few frosty beers while I watch the feature.
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  8. Likewise not and not by mkcmkc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Exactly, I spend more on music now than I ever have done, precisely because of the vastly increased exposure to it bittorrent has enabled. Although I abhor the RIAA's tactics, I decided several years ago that I could not put myself at risk from extortion at their hand, so I stopped Napstering altogether. Not surprisingly, my CD purchases have simultaneously dropped from hundreds per year to one or two.

    Ironically, in the RIAA's analysis of the situation, I must almost certainly be accounted as someone who's stopped buying CD's because of illegal downloading, when in fact it is directly due to the actions of the recording industry itself.

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  9. Re:draconian bulloni! by ruin20 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Courtney Love gives a much more accurate account for how the racket works. All these "BIG" record deals aren't that "BIG" at all because typically the advance given the band is not just payment to the members, but also supposed to cover production expenses. In other words record company gives you 1.3 million and you go to the recording studio, art studio, and post possessing guys and give 1 million back to the record studio and you're left with 300,000 with which you pay the manager and the artist, making it a 5 or 6 way split. That's 50 grand a piece. And then you never see a penny from your album because that 1.3 million was an advance. Thats why going gold, silver and platinum are such big deals, because they're when the artist starts actually seeing 1.3 cents per song.

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  10. Re:Informative??? by Free+the+Cowards · · Score: 5, Informative

    Technically he's not wrong about the warrant. They can't force him to let them look inside. However what they can do is tell him that he either lets them look or he leaves.

    The only thing a private property owner can force you to do is leave. However because of that, they can put almost any condition they like on your continued presence. The only exceptions are for things like racial discrimination.

    If a store or other place of business wants to inspect all of your bags before they let you in, that is entirely within their rights. Note that if they want to inspect everything before you leave then they have essentially no way to enforce this, since you're leaving anyway. But if the movie theater says that as a condition of entering their business and seeing their movie, you will submit all bags to a search, you will wear a large floppy purple hat, and you will dance about singing Amazing Grace, then your choice is to do this or leave.

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