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Tin Whiskers — Fact Or Fiction?

bLanark writes "Some time ago, most electronics were soldered with old-fashioned lead solder, which has been tried and tested for decades. In 2006, the EU banned lead in solder, and so most manufacturers switched to a lead-free solder. Most made the switch in advance, I guess due to shelf-life of products and ironing out problems working with the new material. Lead is added to solder as it melts at low temperature, but also, it prevents the solder from growing 'whiskers' — crystalline limbs of metal. The effect of whiskers on soldered equipment would include random short-circuits and strange RF-effects. Whiskers can grow fairly quickly and become quite long. Robert Cringley wrote this up this some time ago, but it seems that the world has not been taking notice. I guess cars (probably around 30 processors in a modern car) and almost every appliance would be liable to fail sooner than expected due to tin whiskers. Note that accelerated life-expectancy tests can't simulate the passing of time for whiskers to grow. I've googled, and there is plenty of research into the effects of tin whiskers. I should point out that the Wikipedia page linked to above states that tin whisker problems 'are negligible in modern alloys,' but can we trust Wikipedia? So: was the tin whisker problem overhyped, was it an initial problem that has been solved in the few years since lead-free solder came into use, or is it affecting anyone already?"

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  1. Will my tin foil hats by LM741N · · Score: 5, Funny

    grow whiskers. That would be a major bummer. But then lead would be pretty heavy.

    1. Re:Will my tin foil hats by Skylinux · · Score: 2, Funny

      that's why I can't get mine off anymore, the damn whiskers grew inwards ..... I thought the pain and the itching was just bad hygiene.

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    2. Re:Will my tin foil hats by John+Hasler · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not only will they grow whiskers if they are pure, but if you wear them outside in cold weather they may catch tin disease.

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    3. Re:Will my tin foil hats by furbearntrout · · Score: 3, Funny

      Everyone knows that "tinfoil" hats must be made of aluminum to be effective, as tin is not sufficiently psychoactive. Modern (copper interconnect) computers are more (or less) sensitive to certain psionic attacks, for the same reason

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    4. Re:Will my tin foil hats by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Funny

      > Everyone knows that "tinfoil" hats must be made of aluminum to be effective, as tin is
      > not sufficiently psychoactive.

      Wrong: only tin is effective. Why do you think aluminum foil was invented? It only exists to mislead fools like you into believing you are protected.

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    5. Re:Will my tin foil hats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      A friend of mine says it's actually Saran Wrap that you're supposed to place around your head. I think "they" got to him, though, because I haven't seen him around for awhile.

  2. Paging Dr Moggles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    My cat gets through tins of Whiskas extremely rapidly. Perhaps scientists can interview him.

    1. Re:Paging Dr Moggles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Dr. Moggles has officially declined public comment. In fact, when asked directly by our reporters, he simply turned around and started eating again. How rude!

      However action news has since learned that an unnamed source distinctly heard Dr. Moggles muttering "NOM NOM NOM" over and over while devouring the gelatinous food stuff.

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  3. Well,, I can only say... by Linker3000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Imagine a ...er, no..

    I blame Mic..hang on..

    The RIA...Uh..

    In Soviet Ru...Damn..

    SCO probably...fu..

    Does solder run Lin...um...

    Bah!

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    1. Re:Well,, I can only say... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Funny

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  4. Not been taking notice? by Mike1024 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Robert Cringley wrote this up this some time ago, but it seems that the world has not been taking notice. Of Cringely? Well, of course not.
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  5. Yes, but you forgot the most important detail by davidwr · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did he have tin whiskers?

    If you are going to troll, at least be on-topic.

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  6. Re:obvious answer by dna_(c)(tm)(r) · · Score: 3, Funny

    OK, then maybe the question should be, who is less trustworthy, Wikipedia or Cringely?

    Yeah, as long as you're certain the slashdot crowd is dependable, honest and therefore trustworthy...

  7. More stupid laws thanks to paranoia. by plasmacutter · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm sorry but I don't see the danger to life and limb these politicians do in the tiny dimples of lead alloy solder which are enclosed in numerous tough outer casings.

    Have there been any studies comparing this "health risk" to your average city's smog layer?

    Lead has its place in society. It's not as if lead based solder is being used to paint walls or as inlay in children's toys.

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  8. This is only going to get recursive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I think you've wasted your time commenting on the comment.

  9. Re:Is lead truly that dangerous ? by gujo-odori · · Score: 2, Funny

    You live in a place where they make ham out of *cows*? I don't think I want to eat /anything/ there, lead or not.

  10. Re:Well here are a few facts... by linzeal · · Score: 4, Funny

    People need to learn to solder as well. I can't tell you how many EE seniors I know that can't solder any better than I could when I was 10 and convinced if I hooked 10 D batteries in series I would be able to get a California radio station in Arizona with a boombox. Ah, precious magic smoke.

  11. Re:Is lead truly that dangerous ? by drkmirror · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cows are slaughtered and transformed into ham which you eat. Lead is then accumulated in the body. Lead transforms cows into HAM my god I never realized lead was so dangerous
  12. Re:lead free solder by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Analog? That is so 1980s

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  13. Re:Is lead truly that dangerous ? by gbutler69 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, I'll do you one better. I've never heard of HAM made from COWS!

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  14. Re:Fact by QuoteMstr · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Percussive maintenance."

  15. Re:Is lead truly that dangerous ? by marxmarv · · Score: 3, Funny

    Kosher ham, I trust.

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  16. Re:Does it matter? by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 4, Funny

    last time i checked space wasn't an EU member. list here

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  17. Re:Well here are a few facts... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    The only problem that you have now is that you are only 11 and have been at it for only a year!

  18. All I can say........ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    is they're a bitch when the cat rubs up against my leg.

  19. Uggh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guard my rosin core solder like it's gold. I cannot stand the lead free solder.

    What made me laugh one night was when I was at the local DC401 group and we were assembling the RGB light kits. A few of the guys had vented soldering stations and warned to "wash you hands" after handling leaded solder.

    It was then that I brought up that if you lived in any area that was built up from the 19th century, more than likely your water distribution was via lead pipe. Not to mention the environmental lead you're exposed to every day.

    The hand washing is probably a good idea, and not inhaling the fumes might be helpful.

    But hell, I've been soldering stuff with lead based solder for many years. Maybe it explains why I'm so deranged.

  20. Re:lead free solder by Goffee71 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The BOFH intends to use your exact message the next time that a user calls us with a hardware problem. Sir, you win a prize.

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