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Trio of Super-Earths Discovered

FiReaNGeL writes "A group of astronomers have now discovered a system of three super-Earths around a rather normal star, which is slightly less massive than our Sun, and is located 42 light-years away towards the southern Doradus and Pictor constellations. 'We have made very precise measurements of the velocity of the star HD 40307 over the last five years, which clearly reveal the presence of three planets.' The planets, having 4.2, 6.7, and 9.4 times the mass of the Earth, orbit the star with periods of 4.3, 9.6, and 20.4 days, respectively. 'The perturbations induced by the planets are really tiny — the mass of the smallest planets is one hundred thousand times smaller than that of the star — and only the high sensitivity of HARPS made it possible to detect them' says co-author François Bouchy, from the Institut d'Astrophysique de Paris, France. Clearly these planets are only the tip of the iceberg."

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  1. So what exactly is by jimbobborg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    a super-earth? It is a bigger planet with Earth-like atmosphere, or it this just a bad translation?

  2. Re:Really short periods by Anti_Climax · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A short orbital period and a higher mass mean a greater possibility we can see the star shifting back and forth as the planet revolves around it. As our instrumentation and measurements get more accurate and precise we should be able to reliably infer the presence of smaller planets with longer orbital periods.

    With how many large planets we're finding, it's pretty likely there are plenty of smaller earth like planets to be found when we gain the ability to do so.

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  3. Such a downer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every time there's news of earth or super-earth sized planets, we always find that they're orbital period is like 5 days, which would mean the planet is completely scorched and incapable of supporting life or bearing liquid water. Such a downer....it doesn't matter what sized planet you have if its orbit places it so close to the star. Is this because the whole eclipse-detection method requires the planet to be close to its star so we can't actually detect planets further out from the star? I'm actually kind of tired hearing about "exciting" new of another planet being discover 5-30 million km from its star...that is not even close to being in the habitable zone people.

  4. So... by SirLurksAlot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What exactly makes these Earth-like? From the data it appears that their masses are several times greater than Earth and their orbital periods are much much shorter than Earth. Is it because the star they orbit is similar to Sol? Is there any indication of water or an atmosphere on any of them? Not that this isn't a cool find, but it seems that the use of the word "Earth" is just sensationalism. I would've been just as happy if they had simply said "three planets."

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    1. Re:So... by wagnerrp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      These planets are in no way Earth-like, the 'super Earth' designation is just one of planet size. They are rather small in comparison to other extra-solar planets we have discovered.

      We only know of these planets from watching oscillations of the star they are around, so there is no way to determine any sort of chemical makeup of the planet. That said, at 20days for an orbit, those planets are baked dry.

    2. Re:So... by MozeeToby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The planets found are "earth-like" because they are believed to be rocky, terrestrial planets. Right now, we can only detect such small, lightweight planets when they are very, very close to their star.

      The fact that we see so many of them gives some hope to the idea that there are many terrestrial planets out there and that some of them would be in the habitable zone. We can't yet see planets that might support life so right now we look for planets that share some characteristics with Earth, in this case size.

  5. Re:So...we found...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

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  6. Re:42 light-years away? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Not really, since it depends on your point of view. For the inhabitants of the planet with a orbital period of 20.4 days, Sol is about 750 lightyears away, and the third rock has an orbital period of nearly 18 years.

  7. Re:Please tell us more oh wise one by dtolman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Interesting science they are doing over there. So lacking any evidence that planets are ubiquitous, and even worse that true Earth-like planets exist in the first place even though they can't yet detect them, they are ready to say that they must exist because they have now found some "smaller" hunks of mass orbiting a star? This is sheer idiocy. Astronomers are finding planets all over our immediate vicinity in space - how more ubiquitious can you get than the current rate of discovery? It seems any star with metallicity has a planet or planet system around it. As for the second part - the only limitation in finding Earth sized worlds is detector sensitivity. Seeing how they can find individual objects larger than Earth, and comet sized and smaller debris (in bulk), it seems pretty obvious they will find planets with masses the size of Earth, or smaller, as soon as we can get the sensitivity down to that point.
  8. Re:Why are we surprised?? by dtolman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Whose suprised? The first few planets last decade were suprises, because there was a real debate as to how rare planetary systems were. Now that we know they are common, its long expected that we will find Earth mass planets - the only question is when. The real suprises are coming when we look at overall systems (no one expected to find Jupiter+ massed planets in close orbits), or when we look at the atmospheres.