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Firefox Download Day To Start At 1 p.m. EST

boustrophedon writes "Starting at midnight in their local timezones, downloaders have been asking when Firefox 3 will be ready for Firefox Download Day, June 17, 2008. Mary announced on the Spread Firefox Forum that downloads will commence at 10 AM PST." That means 1 p.m. East Coast time, and, in Justin Mason's view, some pretty annoying times of day for many parts of the world. Reader CorinneI supplies a link to PC Magazine's (very positive) overview of the new version's features, which praises the "speedy performance, thrifty memory usage, and, in particular, the address bar that now predicts where you want to go when you start typing (what Mozilla insiders refer to as the Awesome Bar)." FF3, even in Beta and RC form, and even with the extension incompatibilities I've run into, has quickly replaced FF2 as my preferred browser — for me, the improved drop-down autocomplete behavior alone is enough to justify the switch.

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  1. Download by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Download by 8127972 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Does this count towards the World Record Attempt?

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    2. Re:Download by winphreak · · Score: 5, Informative

      Any downloads before the time specified do not count toward the world record attempt.

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    3. Re:Download by an.echte.trilingue · · Score: 5, Informative
      Since not all of us use windows and want their system in english, let's decompose that link a bit:

      http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US

      You select your version with the GET variables. So, for other OS's:
      • Linux: change os=win to os=linux
      • Mac: change os=win to os=osx
      For other languages, you can substitute the language variable such as en-GB for British English, de for German and fr for French. Not all of them are up right now, but they will be soon.
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    4. Re:Download by AigariusDebian · · Score: 5, Informative

      http://www.aigarius.com/ff3_countdown.html - download timer countdown.

    5. Re:Download by Furmy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Any downloads AFTER the time will result in

      "There were problems checking for, downloading or installing this update. Firefox could not be updatd because: AUS: No data was received (Please try again)"

      Same for mozilla.org, spreadfirefox.com. Yes, I know I can wait. I've already waited for the damn thing to start.

      I hope this stunt gets them to concentrate on the product rather than the publicity. The success of Firefox was not because of advertising, it was a good product spread by WOM and email.

    6. Re:Download by Pollardito · · Score: 5, Funny

      and if you, for example, want to download firefox 4.0, you should change the link like so: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-4.0&os=win&lang=en-US in this manner you can avoid the rush of people downloading 3.0 and the rush that will surely come with 4.0 as well.

  2. I will not.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    be downloading FF!

    IE 5 is good enough for me!

    1. Re:I will not.... by kvezach · · Score: 5, Funny

      IE 5 is good enough for me!

      I know, but did you have to advertise it? I had just finished owning your computer; now all the other slashdotters will get on and kick me off with their own kits!

    2. Re:I will not.... by brunascle · · Score: 5, Funny

      you didnt know? Opera is adware. fortunately, we have IE 5.0 and Netscape Navigator as alternatives.

      wtf is Firefox?

    3. Re:I will not.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      me neither. Opera 9.5 is good enough for me.

      Actually, that's a lie - I'll definitely install it and try it out, though unless it's particularly awesome I doubt I'll be using it much.

      EDIT: fanboy tirade about unjest treatment of Opera on slashdot and why you should try Opera follows. I could delete the following section, but I'll leave it up to the moderators to mod me fanboy or troll.

      Is the "awesome bar" really as awesome as Opera's full history search from the title bar that lets you search for any phrase in any page in the cache... for instance, I could find slashdot again by typing "anonymous coward" if I forgot the url or title, or maybe just something from the post I was reading like "firefox download".

      Also, though Opera still lacks extensions, it does seem to have caught up with regard to add blocking, and it's had really easy options to disable sound, plugins (like flash), java or javascript, identify as other browsers, change encoding, full zoom on all page elements, etc. for ages.

      Even if you think the fact Opera being closed source is shit, it's pretty impressive that it's so packed with features whilst still being small and fast. Firefox 2 always felt a bit clunky to me, though I've heard 3 is a lot better, so that's something I'm looking forward to testing.

      I'm only posting this because I'm a bit annoyed that the post about the release of Opera 9.5, which is a pretty major Opera release got attached to a fucking post announcing the release of Firefox 3 this Tuesday after there have already been tons of posts about betas and mozilla marketting schemes. I know not as many people use Opera as use FF, but it is a nice piece of free software which easily competes with FF on many levels and should be of interest to many /. readers.

  3. Re:My findings... by ndansmith · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've been using the RC releases, and while I do like the new browser, the memory footprint is still a monster. Currently, it's using over 175MB of ram for the windows I have open (21 different pages) - and that seems excessive to me. You're right, 21 pages seems excessive to me as well.
  4. Re:ubuntu linux? by eigendude · · Score: 5, Informative
    You can already have it in Ubuntu:
    sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0

    Ubuntu Hardy has it as the default Firefox browser.

  5. Firefox Download Day by Volanin · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those who still don't know, Mozilla is trying to enter GUINNESS
    for most software downloads in a 24-hour period. Check it here:

    http://www.spreadfirefox.com/worldrecord/

    Everybody is asked to participate by downloading one single copy of
    Firefox 3.0 today, June 17th!

    ONLY FULL DOWNLOADS ARE CONSIDERED!
    So, go to the Firefox site and get one FULL COPY!

    http://www.getfirefox.com/

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  6. I don't think they're going to meet their goal by alta · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I go to the site I get:

    The connection was reset

    The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.

    And this was with FF 2.0.0.14, so they can't blame my client.

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  7. Re:I hate the awesome bar by daranz · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's also the Oldbar extension.

    Seems like the awesome bar is something that people either love or hate. Personally, I don't like it. I prefer my URL bar to do straight autocompletion, rather than search through my history and bookmarks for matches. I use the URL bar to type in URLs, and while the awesome bar adds some nifty functionality it breaks that basic feature.

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  8. I hope they have an MSI version for windows by denis-The-menace · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Otherwise all this hype will not convince corps to switch.

    Why MSI?
    -it's a corp standard.(STD switches, behavior)
    -It's customizable without changing the original package
    -It is designed from the ground up to run unattended or silent regardless if it's an upgrade or a new install.

    And Frontmotion (www.frontmotion.com/) != Mozilla
    It's a trust issue. Corps want "warm and fuzzies" and not what they will view as a hack.
    If Mozilla doesn't want to make an MSI package but still wants to entice the Corps to switch, host Frontmotion's MSI from the Mozilla site.

    Having GPO support or preinstalled Addons are gravy at this point.

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  9. Re:What is this in Euros? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, at the current exchange rate 0 Euros is a few bucks or so.

  10. Re:I hate the awesome bar by abaddononion · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's important to note this, from the oldbar site:

    Note that the underlying autocomplete algorithm is the Firefox 3 algorithm, not the Firefox 2 algorithm. oldbar only affects the presentation of the results.

    Oldbar, while nice, only changes appearance, not functionality.

    Im with you guys, though. I despise the awesome bar, and dont understand why there isnt an easier/obvious way to get the old, URL based behavior. A URL bar that works based on URLs?! Blasphemy!

  11. 17th started at GMT by rescue+me · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Why did this not start on GMT so it was the 17th for the whole world at the normal time. 2. Why was it so hard to find a Mozillia definition of the 17th ;-) Smart guys and gals could have made this simpler.

  12. Re:Time Zones by sm62704 · · Score: 5, Funny

    in Justin Mason's view, some pretty annoying times of day for many parts of the world

    Sure, I can see lining up at my daughter's GameStop store at midnight, considering that whatever game they want may be sold out quickly.

    But a download? Who cares what time of day it's available? If it's available at 1:00 AM your time, then just start the download when you wake up, or when you get home from work.

    They're not going to run out of Firefoxes, you know. Relax.

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  13. Re:My findings... by Xzzy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's a PEBCAK error, not a fault with Firefox.

    Images, html, css, content, media.. all of that takes up space. Firefox has to hold it in memory so it can display it quickly when you click on the tab.

    How much would you be complaining if you had to wait 5 seconds every time you switched tabs so it could swap in from disk?

  14. Re:I'll pick it up by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Informative
    According to the 'About Mozilla Firefox' menu on my Ubuntu-borne copy of FF (the very one I'm using to type this missive), it says 3.0, and AdBlock Plus works just fine on it.



    HTH,

    /P

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  15. Timezone by erik.martino · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why do slashdot use obscure timezones like PST EST XST when there is a standard UTC?

  16. Re:Download DAY, Justin by Pvt_Ryan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because the Dowload DAY starts at 10am PST on the 17th..

    Which to SOME people is the 18th of June, yes there is a world out side of the US shock/horror.

    If you are going to have a world wide "DAY" then you should either start at 00:00 UTC OR specify the start time in UTC OR Have a count down time so people can work out when it starts.

    The main agro from all this is that:
    a) They said the 17th but never specifed the Time zone
    b) The Never specified a time (so people logically thought midnight)
    c) They never specified a Timezone full stop.

    TBPFH I am rather annoyed, As I assumed the start would be at 00:00 UTC and was looking forward to the massive rush to download it being over and me being able to download it @ 0930 in work.

    Instead after much fafing about I finally discover ON THE FORUMS the time is 1000 PST, IT WASN'T EVEN NOTED ON THE FRONT PAGE!

    Don't get me wrong I love FF but after this I wouldn't trust mozilla to organize a piss up in a brewery!

  17. Re:My findings... by FauxPasIII · · Score: 5, Funny

    > It literally POPS off the screen to say "Hello, please click me!".

    Where the hell did you buy that monitor?

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  18. Re:Download DAY, Justin by Sabz5150 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why's he moaning about what time it starts at when people have a whole twenty-four hours to find a suitable time to download the thing? It's not like we all have to sprint to our computers and start it on the minute. We are Slashdot! Turning servers into slag is what we do best!
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  19. Hmmm by bluie- · · Score: 5, Funny

    The site seems to be bogged down for some reason...

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  20. Correction to the GPs post by macdaddy · · Score: 5, Informative
    I would have modded you down as being inaccurate but doing so would mean that I couldn't correct the inaccuracy. So I'm passing up on the opportunity to mod you and am instead going to fix the mistake.

    As of FireFox 3.0b3 browser.urlbar.richResults no longer works. The ability to chose your own search results style was removed by the Mozilla developers as part of bug #407836. They're illogical viewpoint is explained in bug #403159.

    And, for the record, Oldbar does not fix the problem. It does not disable the searching style introduced by FF 3.0. It only makes the results look a little more like 2.0.

    According to this article browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped no longer works either. The value of browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped is now ignored.

    It's not the GP's fault either. Dozens of articles have been published in the past few months that have old, outdated information. Even Redhat put it in their Knowledgebase on 6/4. The sheer number of articles attempting to help people disable the "awesome bar" should make the developers realize that this is not a "feature" that everyone wants. I agree with the GP. I too HATE the awesome bar. It's a shame too because I would love to have the fixes for the memory leaks in FF 2.0 that don't exist but FF 3.0 addresses anyway.

  21. 1:04pm by mattwarden · · Score: 5, Funny

    The servers, the servers, the servers are on fire.
    The servers, the servers, the servers are on fire.
    We don't need to download let the motherf***ers burn.
    Burn motherf***ers, burn.

  22. DDOS world record by renrutal · · Score: 5, Funny

    I believe they will attempt the world record for the largest, willing, Distributed Denial of Service Attack.

    Well, what the hell, lets help bury their servers :)

  23. Downloading from their FTP server won't count by ahijado · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's what mozilla is saying from their ftp server site: ftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/mac/index.html We're not quite ready yet! We're just as excited as you are for our upcoming release, but we're still putting the finishing touches on Firefox 3: preparing the new mozilla.com website, getting our severs ready for downloads, and doing our final pre-launch checks. You can follow our progress if you'd like! The files in this directory are - for now - only meant to be used by our testers. Downloading them directly can harm our ability to distribute Firefox efficiently, and will also not be counted as part of our attempt to set a Guiness World Record for the most software downloads in a day. If you'd like to be notifed the minute that we launch, please go to sign up for Download Day. Or just head over to getfirefox.com on Tuesday, June 17th after 10am PDT.

  24. Hoax! by birdguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    The idea of having the largest one day download was a Microsoft hoax designed to create a DOS attack on Mozilla.

  25. My bad - by BucketOfLard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sorry people - I meant to hit DOWNLOAD, but accidentally hit DOS ATTACK.
    Boy is my face red.

  26. FireFox successfully D.O.S. attacked themselves by jackspenn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sites been down for awhile. Maybe the Mozilla team can get the Guinness Book of World Record's "Most effective self inflicted denial of service attack."

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