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New Grads Shun IT Jobs As "Boring"

whencanistop writes "Despite good job prospects, graduates think that a job in IT would be boring. Is this because of the fact that Bill Gates has made the whole industry look nerdy? Surely with so many (especially young) people being 'web first' with not just their buying habits, but now in terms of what they do in their spare time, we'd expect more of them to want to get a career in it?"

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  1. If I had the power to do it all over again... by vertinox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would have gone into Economics.

    Or maybe Forestry...

    If I had only known the IT world would turn into what it is now, I'd do something else. Too much politics... To much hype...

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  2. Oh come on now... by geminidomino · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Spair time?"

    Seriously, this is ridiculous.

  3. Of course IT is boring! by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And it's not because it's nerdy (as the summary opines). It's simply because its about maintenance of poorly-designed shit. You might as well call it glorified janitorial work.

    In contrast, creating new stuff, as actual programmers and engineers do -- that's interesting!

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    1. Re:Of course IT is boring! by nine-times · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And it's not because it's nerdy (as the summary opines).

      Yeah, my favorite part was, "Is this because of the fact that Bill Gates has made the whole industry look nerdy?" Really? Bill Gates made it look nerdy? Like if not for Gates, the whole industry would be filled with badass cowboys and hot chicks or something?

      Yeah, even the fact that "badass cowboys and hot chicks" popped into my head as the opposite of "nerdy" is probably an indication that I'm an IT nerd.

      But yeah, I've found that at least the IT work that falls on the support/maintenance side (as opposed to the development side) is kind of boring crap-work. It's fixing problems that some other moron broke, and cleaning up problems caused by poor design. It's 2008, and we still don't even have decent backup/archive methods. Every product out there has huge problems and gaping holes in their functionality that should have been fixed 15 years ago, but instead everyone has been working on things like database-driven filesystems that never make it to market.

      That's right, I'm looking at you, Microsoft.

      InfoTech work isn't all science-fictiony and cool. Oddly, it's more like being a Fonzie in training. It's like all this technology amounts to a broken jukebox that has to be smacked in just the right way to get it going, and you're just hoping to learn how to do that so you can stand around looking cool until someone needs you.

      Except that this Fonzie never ends up looking cool and everyone treats him like a trained monkey. "Slap the machine and play me a song!" they all yell.

      Oh, yeah, I know I've jumped the tracks and gone into nonsense. Whatever. I work in IT. Making up random crap on Slashdot is the most interesting part of my day.

  4. As opposed to... by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Shit, I wish my job was boring. When something breaks it gets so exciting I worry that I'm going to keel over dead.

    Anyway, the damn snowflakes need to suck it up. What entry level job isn't boring? You put in your crappy dues, so that you get a better job down the road. I've worked all kinds of jobs, and they're pretty much all boring, even things you wouldn't think would be boring. I did a stint doing wildlife tagging, where I got to roam around on a four wheeler shooting things with a tranq gun, and that was astoundingly boring...99% of the time you just sat and waited and let the mosquitos gorge themselves on your blood.

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  5. Re:Well, many IT jobs ARE boring by jo42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hate to piddle in your soup, but most jobs in the world are "pretty fucking boring". Welcome to reality.

  6. Who cares? by gsslay · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "But over 60% of non-computing students do not wish to enter the sector because they think it will be boring."

    Who cares what non-computing students think? I can think of dozens of other job sectors that I suspect would bore me stupid, that's why I had the sense not to study for qualifications in them.

    I suspect that these graduates all have a nasty shock coming to them anyway, courtesy of real life. Most jobs are "boring" in some way. That's why you get paid to do them rather than doing them for fun.

  7. Most jobs are boring by Brain-Fu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If jobs were very exciting and fulfilling in and of themselves, we wouldn't need to pay people to do them.

    Life requires labor. Civilized life requires even more labor. Most of that labor is unpleasant in some way. We face the grind anyway, day after day, because it keeps the ball rolling, and because it gives us the money we need to do the things we actually like doing.

    If you manage to find a job that you actually like a lot, that's great. If not, hopefully you will be strong enough to accept the realities that most people face, get a boring job, be useful, and earn a decent living.

    1. Re:Most jobs are boring by qbzzt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Me too. But I haven't always valued money the same way.

      Alone in your early twenties is a good time to chase after fun experiences and short term payoffs. Your money needs are relatively low, job security in a nice to have, and independence is new and exciting.

      Wait eight years. Add a mortgage and a couple of kids. Get used to the independence. Suddenly a stable job that pays the bills sounds a lot better. You've done enough exciting jobs and short term payoffs, and now you need to think it terms of decades.

      Most IT jobs aren't so complex that you have to start right out of college. You can do something else and change jobs.

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    2. Re:Most jobs are boring by harshmanrob · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree 100%. I am IT Security soon getting my GSEC cert (already have my Security +) and this job has the highest level of suck that one could possibly imagine. I have to interact with managers, my own manager is constantly changing the directives and fakes "rah rah" speeches about "security the company". At the end of the day I could really give two fucks if the place got hacked or not.

      What is funny is the best time I ever had with IT is when I was coding/developing/programming only to learn that that was "shit work" to be outsourced. Kinda nice when I was running a division of a help desk after that, only to learn that to was "shit work" to be outsourced. Turns out they cannot outsource security work and policy management due to ethical reasons. But I consider the position "SHIT WORK!". What I do now is SHIT WORK! And the last time I checked SHIT WORK WAS SHIT!

      I would NEVER suggest or recommend an IT career to anyone at this point. The article is WRONG. The work is not just boring, it is SHIT WORK.

    3. Re:Most jobs are boring by element-o.p. · · Score: 5, Insightful

      True, but here's the situation I am in:
      I have worked in IT for ten years. At my previous employer, where I got my break in IT, I found that working as a sys admin in a fairly large company was becoming increasingly unrewarding due to mismanagement and being pigeon-holed into a subset of the tasks we had all shared earlier. I left for a better position in a smaller company where I once again had the opportunity to learn a lot of new skills and could break out of the rut that I had been in at the previous job. Now the company I work for has been bought out by another large company, and it's looking like they are trying to figure out which pigeon-hole the other IT guys and I fit into within their organization. The work load has dropped to nil, and, well, I'm bored again (thus, posting on /.).

      At this point in my life, I am seriously considering going back to my first love -- flight instructing. I've taken a part-time job as an instructor, and I've decided that if things don't work out in the new parent company (i.e., if they decide those of us from the smaller company are no longer needed), I probably won't search for a new job in IT. I'll probably flight instruct full time and maybe take a part time job teaching C.S. at the local college. Throw in a little part time IT consulting, and I'll think I'll probably still be financially secure, but a lot happier than I would be in an environment like my first IT position.

      You can be happy and financially secure; just think a little outside the box. In today's economy, it's probably a better idea to work a couple of part time gigs than put all of your eggs in the single basket of one job where you could be outsourced/laid off at any time.

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  8. Re:Five Years Into the Job by jorghis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Even if you dont find it boring to begin with you really need to ask yourself the question "where will I be in five/ten/twenty years?". For the majority going into software engineering or IT the answer is "prettymuch the same thing I was doing two weeks after I graduated college". You might be better at it and you might be leading a team of people, but you will still be doing about the same thing.

    You see this at big companies too, its much more common to promote a software engineer to a "software engineer level 2" or something similar than it is for them to move on to something else. The career path is usually designed to keep you doing the same thing for a long period of time. For many other types of jobs (such as consulting) the entry level position is seen as stepping stone to bigger and better things.

    Now I know that there are a lot of exceptions to this rule, but generally speaking 90% of people who start out in a company as an entry level software engineer or IT guy dont move on to anything else. Thats why people get bored with it imho.

  9. Re:Well, many IT jobs ARE boring by rtb61 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The underlying personalty traits required are, you either are a computer geek/nerd or you are not. You either enjoy keeping up with changes in computers and software, learning new skills, effectively applying your continually changing skills, the technical side of computer hardware and software, or you don't and after a short uninspiring career you become a computer salesperson, a drone.

    I can't help it, I'd rather be a university gaining new knowledge, than be on an overseas holiday. I rather spend all night configuring, adjusting and tweaking computer hardware and software than be getting drunk in some crap night club. I'd rather be /.ing than mindlessly myspaceing and so for me a career in computers just ain't boring even if a do find some elements somewhat tiresome like coding.

    So the grads are just leaning the computers skills are more difficult than other grad choices and the big entry level salaries are gone eliminating blind greed as the only reason to choose a career in computers, so reduced numbers are to be expected and generally it is better for the whole industry, less drones sucking up space doing more harm than good and of course the actually computer geeks/nerds get to enjoy higher salaries and better conditions.

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  10. it's not compensation, it's booty by mkcmkc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    CEOs don't get paid a fortune because that's what's needed to convince them to do an arduous job. They get paid a fortune because they're in a position to directly control how much they get paid, and they like being paid a lot. Think "pirate", not "drudge".

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    1. Re:it's not compensation, it's booty by Stew+Gots · · Score: 5, Insightful

      CEO's do not set their own compensation, the board of directors does.

      You clearly have no idea how things work in the real world. CEOs always try to pack the Board with their supporters, cut deals on the Board's compensation based on their own, recommend Directors for seats on other companies' boards, etc.

      Now carry on with your ignorant corporate cheerleading.

    2. Re:it's not compensation, it's booty by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's a common piece of propaganda as to why CEOs (and other executives) get paid so much (setting aside the obviously idiotic golden-parachutes-after-running-a-company-into-the-ground scenarios), but the executives are hardly doing all of the work themselves.

      Just as it is hard for the employees to be productive without having some kind of vision directing them, a visionary executive is pretty damn worthless unless he/she has people who can competently implement that vision.

      In many cases, the employees are taking MUCH more of a risk than any of the executives - when the company is doing badly, a lot of employees usually find themselves without jobs, and are left to figure out how they are going to take care of their families. There aren't too many executives that are going to find themselves living out of their cars even if they royally screw over a multi-million revenue company.

      The so-called risk & value that even well-respected CEOs provide to their company is often wildly overstated, and is more of a function of the "buddy-buddy" relationship they have with the people who set their compensation, rather than an objective look at the relative value they are providing to the company, and the personal risk they are taking.

  11. Re:Thank goodness by cowscows · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the reality is that "doing it for a living" is a good way to drain the fun out of almost anything. I enjoy building things out of wood. For about a year or so, I made custom furniture for people, and that's how I got the money I needed to eat. I did not enjoy woodworking all that much for that year. Now that I've been working in a different field for a few years, I've spent a good portion of my disposable income on building up a decent woodshop, and it's once again a hobby I enjoy. *shrug*

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