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Openmoko's Open Source Phone Goes Mass-Market

nerdyH writes "Openmoko has begun shipping its Linux-based, open source Neo Freerunner phone to five newly announced distributors, in Germany, France, and India, says the company. The Neo Freerunner features an open hardware design, and a Linux-based operating system that users are free to modify. The project originally hoped to produce a mass-market offering last October. The $400 Freerunner will remain available direct, online, too. A 2.5G GPRS/GSM phone like the original iPhone, it boasts a 500MHz processor, WiFi, 3D accelerometers, a 4.3-inch VGA touchscreen, Bluetooth, and built-in GPS."

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  1. 2.5G by sglewis100 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's about all I have to say... 2.5G... if not for that I'd keep my existing iPhone but because of it I'm upgrading next month.

    1. Re:2.5G by terevos · · Score: 2, Interesting

      except, it's not EDGE, so I don't know how it's 2.5G, it's GPRS with boost, but I don't know that all the stuff with GPRS will be compatible with the EDGE network for speed. I'm doubting it will, which will leave you with speeds back at 2G GPRS.

    2. Re:2.5G by sglewis100 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm not aware of any hardware features being removed, so I guess nothing was sacrificed. I suppose in the last year they were able to miniaturize other components to free up physical space inside the case. Here's a link: http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/gps.html. You mentioned removing a speaker to squeeze in WiFi. iPhone has just one speaker too if I recall, although the bottom of the phone looks like there are two. The other one is a microphone.

    3. Re:2.5G by intangible · · Score: 5, Interesting

      These are the things I'm under the impression that the Neo phone will support that the iPhone does not have:
      A2DP (Bluetooth Stereo)
      MMS
      Replaceable Battery
      Expandable Flash Memory
      Cut and Paste
      Voice Dialing
      Bluetooth Tether / Modem support
      Flash Support

    4. Re:2.5G by VValdo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't think that's right... I remember reading in the mailing lists that people couldn't overclock (or in this case, normalclock) the CPU because of timing/sync issues with other components...

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  2. For all the people asking why X/Y/Z is missing by comm2k · · Score: 5, Interesting

    3G was never planned for this version and even subsequent versions only may get it thy can get buy it in low volume and can write/publish it with GPL'ed driver (if necessary for 3G module). Same goes for a lot of other things that your run-of-the-mill phone boasts. Most chip-makers wont even talk to you if you want low volume + open specs/drivers.
    WIFI wouldn't have been included if they didn't find an appropriate chip (for mobile phones) with open drivers etc. or at least the possibility to write an open driver with NDA'ed docs.

  3. I'll be ordering online by OglinTatas · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can't wait, I've developed _serious_ blueballs waiting for this thing. Lets see... www.openmoko.com... store...

    Invalid security certificate? D'oh!

    Hope that gets fixed soon too. wasn't there a discussion about that recently?

  4. Finally a hackable phone by oever · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm really considering buying a Neo Freerunner. At 300 euros it's reasonably priced.

    Some improvements I'd like to perform to it that a normal phone does not have:
      - depending on who's calling perform any of these behaviors:
          * ring, vibrate or ignore the call
          * answer the call with a dynamic or static message for example where i am (coordinates or city name), why i'm not answering (eating, sleeping, meeting)
          * install an operator menu ("Jos is in a meeting, i'm openmoko his assistant. do you want to make an appointment for him to call you back?"
      - record my accelleration and position all day (because i can)
      - switch an annoying caller to a signal of strange noises or a helpfully scripted assistant or a nice song to put them on hold with
      - put a filter on incoming and outgoing sounds to give them echo or change the pitch
      - record every call i make

       

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  5. Re:Neo 1973 by legirons · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Article is kinda short on web shop links - anyone know where you can buy this already?

  6. Re:Some Experience by andyfrommk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As I already have a Freerunner, here are my experiences: Where did you get it? whats your email on the lists? are there any good points about it? You seem to have just registered on slashdot, was it to troll on the neo freerunner? I call BS on that post
  7. Re:Kind of expensive by lindi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You can't really expect custom hardware design for a small number of customers to be cheap?

  8. Re:Mod parent fanboi down by berating · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know internal tests have indicated a week of battery life is possible when the Freerunner is suspended. Yes, you are right. If I take the battery out it will last for weeks even. But I have *four* Neos and three of them go to nirvana after two hours. Being suspended. But talking every minute to the cell tower. Chief Software Architect Dr. Michael Lauer called it a "Heisenbug"(just search the bugzilla). Ah. okay.

    I'm pretty sure you're using a Nokia compatible headset instead of the Motorola compatible one that the FR plug actually matches. Thanks god for your telepathic analysis. In case that Openmoko shipped their phone with Nokia headsets you are right. But let me tell you that Nokia never ever would ship saw such cheap crap as these headphones. For 1$ you get better stuff on ebay. But hey wurpy-fanboi, just shell out your money.

    The neo supports *full* bluetooth What is that fscking good for if the X server doesn't support /dev/input/event5 ? Dear wurpy-fanboi, maybe you should just start X and see that on stderr it says that this is not implemented? Geez fscking Christ, in November 2006 Master Mosko-Pultz said they are delivering in March 2007 and now I have to start programming kinput.c in the X-.server to get an external keyboard to run? Man, what are you smoking? Bluetooth is uselees if the drivers don't support it!

    There are known graphics issues, which will probably only allow video playback of mpeg4 format in 320x200 at reasonable (20+) framerates. I haven't heard of general issues with normal GUI use. Just search the bugzilla (or now trac) for the CTO's (Wolfgang Spraul) comments. They are trying to *remove* it in order to extend the product life-cycle. And let me tell you: despite 50% more CPU power it is only half as fast as the Neo1973.

    That GPS fix time was an issue early on, and still isn't as good as it could be, but I thought the production Freerunners had The last discussion on the mailing list was just a few days ago and the conclusion is that TTFF is >10min. It is 8 min under perfect conditions (on a hill and blue sky) and 20 minutes in a city - and only if you don't move at all. Oh, and you can't connect an external antenna due to missing shielding.

    I chat with Mickey Laurer and Raster (and other OpenMoko developers) fairly often on freenode #openmoko, and I have yet to hear anyone issue anything other than the normal low-grade grousing that you'll hear about anyone. No comment on Dr. fresh from Ivory Tower without industry experience Michael Lauer

    The ASU is currently a piece of crap, and is mostly reinventing the wheel from the mostly working GTK release. Don't use it; use Qtopia for now. Duuhh? GTK was mostly working as you admit. The industry (Garmin, Moblin, Limo, Texas Instruments, Intel, Ubuntu, Firefox, Openoffice, Motorola,... everybody going GTK) you tell me to switch to Qtopia???
    Okay, thank you for your fanboi insight's. There are 1500 more of your kind on the mailing list. But last not least: how many developers have jumped your train? The answer is: zero. Nada. Even a developer who worked for Openmoko said on his blog -ironically being spread via planet.openmoko.org- he would never buy it.

    Now go and spend your fanboi money if you really have to.