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Entertainment Weekly Bemoans Lack of Great Science Books

Bryan writes "A recent headline at Entertainment Weekly suggests that the '100 Best Reads' of the last 25 years do not include a single science book (not even a popular science book). In response, cosmologist Sean Carroll at Cosmic Variance has given an interesting analysis of EW's disappointing list, and Soul Physics is calling for suggestions on the Greatest Physics Books of the Last 25 Years. For all the great literature that science has produced in the last 25 years, EW's list seems to represent a major shortcoming in the field: it still isn't diffusing into popular culture." I'm not sure what Entertainment Weekly's standing to complain would come from. That aside, have science books ever in modern times been a driving force greater than ones intended as (mere) entertainment, religious instruction, etc? I'd put anything by Richard Feynman on this list, though.

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  1. I don't know about books... by xtracto · · Score: 5, Informative

    But Carl Sagan documentaires were *a must* when I was a kid.

    Oh, and Isaac Asimov's non-SF books are great too (the book about Physics and the one about Maths are great).

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    1. Re:I don't know about books... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Time" was, I think, a bestseller and was very good too.

    2. Re:I don't know about books... by eli+pabst · · Score: 3, Funny

      But Carl Sagan documentaires were *a must* when I was a kid.
      Agreed. Watching his specials and NOVA were a large part of what inspired me to become a scientist. I predict that the current generation is going to grow up watching things like Mythbusters and Brainiac and lead to an massive increase in the number of people entering fields science that involve "blowing shit up".
    3. Re:I don't know about books... by 2cute2kill · · Score: 1

      There is nothing wrong with wanting to blow shit up. I'd say that more emphatically but I'd hate to make you think that I personally go around blowing shit up...which I would never do...of course. That said, I'd have to put forward the "Science of the Discworld" Series by Terry Pratchett Ian Stewart and Jack Cohen. But then like so many others have mentioned I've never even heard of most the books on that list. I wonder what the criteria they used for a good read was anyways...being on the Times best seller list, or making into Oprah's book club, because honestly both those reason may indicate public appeal but it doesn't necessarily reflect the actually quality of the writing. Of course I'm a sci-fi/fantasy girl myself so what do I know. I was pleased to see that Mark Haddon's The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time made the list, that WAS a good read.

    4. Re:I don't know about books... by Diomedes01 · · Score: 1

      I was happy to see "The Road" on the list, because it's an amazing book, even though I was unhappy as hell when it was chosen for Oprah's book club. I had to stop telling people about it, because every time I did, they said "Oh, that's the new Oprah book", and it made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

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    5. Re:I don't know about books... by phoenixwade · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Watching his specials and NOVA were a large part of what inspired me to become a scientist. I predict that the current generation is going to grow up watching things like Mythbusters and Brainiac and lead to an massive increase in the number of people entering fields science that involve "blowing shit up". I don't know so much about Mythbusters, only a few of the explosions were really, really good (the cement truck is in a class by itself, of course). But there is no doubt that Braniac has rekindled my love of Thermite!

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    6. Re:I don't know about books... by Hawthorne01 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My four year old is bored silly by most of the stuff on The Science Channel. But he loves Mythbusters and Master Blasters, as do I. I had Mr. Wizard growing up, he has Mythbusters, and anyone who thinks that Mr. Wizard's audience was just kids needs to check themselves.

      There is a time for everything under the sun, and sometimes you want to watch someone explain the mysteries of the billy-uns and billy-uns of stars out there, and sometimes you want to see someone blow s*** up (for a purpose).

      As for books, Jerry Pournelle's "A Step Farther Out" left a profound impression on me when I was but a lad, and continues to do so to this. Enough of this gloom and doom s***: It's raining soup out there, let's grab some buckets and go get it!

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    7. Re:I don't know about books... by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Time" was, I think, a bestseller and was very good too.

      IIRC, that was the book of which it was said, "bought by millions of people, read by thousands, understood by hundreds".

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    8. Re:I don't know about books... by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 5, Funny
      Hofstadter's Goedel, Escher, Bach was a great favorite. Don't know how many people made it past the predicate calculus but though.

      Tough read past that point but you can make it if you mind your P's and Q's.

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    9. Re:I don't know about books... by Gilmoure · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My daughter (7 years old) got sucked into Mythbusters last year (picking up basic scientific method). Recently (last 2 months), she's started watching other shows on Discovery channel. She even woke me up early because she found one called Universe. Was really excited, seeing how Earth could have formed. So yeah, blowing shit up is very cool, she is picking up some ideas on critical thinking and also getting interested in mechanical engineering. Poor thing, tried to make a robot out of card board and tape. Got upset when it kept falling apart. Looks like a Mechano set is on the list for birthday.

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    10. Re:I don't know about books... by syousef · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you enjoyed Cosmos, you really should read:
      Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan "The Demon-Haunted World: Science As A Candle In The Dark" (1996)
      Carl Sagan "Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space" (1994)

      Biographies on famous scientists are always interesting too. There are plenty to choose from. I've read about the lives of Sagan, Feynman, Newton and Einstein. Very entertaining and a wonderful insight into their work as well as their characters (and their character flaws! Did you know the rumour is that Einstein would try to seduce women by letting his robe fall open....oops)

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    11. Re:I don't know about books... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The greatest science book of the last 25 years was "God Wants You Dead". It is not an atheist book, but rather a book on memetics that explains the nature of iconic ideas like "God" and "Country".

    12. Re:I don't know about books... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to people I know who met him, Carl Sagan was a flaming asshole, not a scientist. His greatest talent was marketing himself. The fact that he became involved in the Voyager project was considered some sort of scientific sacrilege by many.

    13. Re:I don't know about books... by Diomedes01 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As long as you're recommending Sagan material, you shouldn't forget "The Varieties of Scientific Experience", a set of his lectures published posthumously, assembled by Ann Druyan (his wife, if anyone was wondering).

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    14. Re:I don't know about books... by magisterx · · Score: 1

      That was one of the best physics book for a popular audience ever.

    15. Re:I don't know about books... by Omestes · · Score: 2, Informative

      Recommend "Blood Meridian: Or the Evening Redness in the West" instead. That book was DAMN creepy, though beautifully written. No Country For Old Men was also good, as was "The Crossing", which also was haunting, but dark.

      Not science books though. I like the "Einstein File", "The Mismeasure of Man" (can't go wrong with Gould), and the book on eugenics by the guy who wrote "IBM and the Holocaust". Good cautionary, or eye opening, tales of when science gets mixed with politics, for good or ill (ill for mankind, or Einstein's reputation)

      As for more "pure" science, "G.E.B." is up there, I recommend it to anyone who can sit through it without bleeding through their ears. Sagan's Demon Haunted World, and Dragon's of Eden are also winners (anything by Sagan, like Gould, is gonna be good). "The World Without Us" was also brilliant, even if contentious.

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    16. Re:I don't know about books... by Myrddin+Wyllt · · Score: 1

      Outstanding book, I agree, but it was published in 1979 and so doesn't qualify as 'the last 25 years'

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    17. Re:I don't know about books... by techno-vampire · · Score: 1
      As for books, Jerry Pournelle's "A Step Farther Out" left a profound impression on me when I was but a lad, and continues to do so to this.


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    18. Re:I don't know about books... by The_Wilschon · · Score: 1

      Significantly less well known, but Tom Siegfried's books are excellent as well. Strange Matters, The Bit and the Pendulum, and A Beautiful Math are his three titles.

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    19. Re:I don't know about books... by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      What does she think about the launching a plane from a conveyor belt thing? Even a 7 year-old can figure that one out.

    20. Re:I don't know about books... by TapeCutter · · Score: 3, Informative

      If I had to pick just one book it would be Demon Haunted World. If I could pick a second I would add Dawkin's "Unweaving The Rainbow" to counter the common belief that only the religious can trully appreciate the awe inspiring beauty of the Universe.

      Also it's hard to go past Brownowski's "The Acsent of Man" for a general history of science.

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    21. Re:I don't know about books... by RotHorseKid · · Score: 1

      If you mention this, you also have to mention Leon M. Lederman's "The God Particle", which is, except for its ridiculous title, simply wonderful. Lederman continually cracks mediocre jokes for a few hundred pages, and when you finished the book, you somehow learned the history and principles of particle physics, QED and QCD.

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    22. Re:I don't know about books... by StatusWoe · · Score: 1

      If they are looking for accessible popular science books, I think Bill Bryson's "A Short History of Nearly Everything" should be included even if just as a primer for the heavier stuff.

      Though the earth sciences sections might be a bit lengthier then most would appreciate the book on whole was excellent, and for anyone who does a lot of travelling the audiobook is read by someone with a reasonably lively voice.

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    23. Re:I don't know about books... by mungtor · · Score: 1

      My daughter (4) is completely mesmerized by How It's Made on Discovery (or the Science channel). She wants to e-mail them to see how Gummi Bears are made, how pencils are made, etc. It's about the only TV that I don't feel guilty letting her watch.

    24. Re:I don't know about books... by heckler95 · · Score: 1

      I read this a few years ago for the first time. I'm not a physicist but my Engineering education and general interest in science enabled me to understand most of it. Shortly thereafter I read "A Briefer History of Time" and I was very impressed with how he managed to make it much more easily understandable while not watering down the content too much. It was packed with illustrations and it seemed that it was written for the average person with an interest in physics as opposed to the physicist looking for some light reading.

    25. Re:I don't know about books... by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1

      If you mention this, you also have to mention Leon M. Lederman's "The God Particle"

      Meh. Found that one somewhat disappointing, actually.

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  2. In related news by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    In related news, Cosmo whines about the lack of great intellectual thinkers.

    1. Re:In related news by Illbay · · Score: 1

      That's it! You got it! (See my earlier comment).

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    2. Re:In related news by The+Angry+Mick · · Score: 3, Funny

      TMZ bemoans the loss of basic human decency.

      Paris Hilton sheds tears over a decline in moral values.

      Justice Department employees stage uproar over personal privacy invasions.

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    3. Re:In related news by wsanders · · Score: 2, Funny

      The quote the great George Carlin, "What do I care? I have a cell phone that makes pancakes!"

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    4. Re:In related news by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      What's weird is, every time I read a Carlin quote, I hear it in my head, in his voice! Cool!

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    5. Re:In related news by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 3, Funny

      Not quite fair to Entertainment Weekly. Despite being a magazine that specializes in pop culture, it's nothing like Cosmo or People. In fact, it's actually quite literate and assumes it's readers actually have a brain.

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    6. Re:In related news by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      I couldn't parse your post. You must be using a meaning of the 'literate' that I was previously unaware of.

    7. Re:In related news by Bonobo_Unknown · · Score: 1

      In other, also related news, the Royal Accounting Society has made in known that they are bemoaning the lack of great accounting books in the same list...
      Seems like people prefer mush...

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  3. non-SF Asimov by Crazy+Man+on+Fire · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Don't forget Asimov's Guide to Shakespeare

    1. Re:non-SF Asimov by wile_e_wonka · · Score: 1
    2. Re:non-SF Asimov by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      While we're at it, let's not forget The Sensuous Dirty Old Man.

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  4. Ah, Feynman by Minwee · · Score: 4, Funny

    What many people don't know is that in addition to being a great bongo player, Richard Feynman was also quite an accomplished physicist.

    It's true!

    1. Re:Ah, Feynman by SputnikPanic · · Score: 4, Funny

      Feynman was a character, wasn't he? "Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman" doesn't really fall into the category of a science book per se, but it was a great read. Safecracking at Los Alamos as a practical joke? Priceless.

    2. Re:Ah, Feynman by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I run a section at a large-ish bookshop, my bit is the physical sciences. And astrology when my colleagues get confused ;)

      Feynman is, pound for pound ($for$) the biggest seller in the whole section. That includes urban studies. And, to be serious, Fossey, Hawking, Lovelock and Sagan. My bit doesn't include the popular science stuff (the line we draw is equations - more than two and it's my section, less and it's the equally popular Popular Science section)

      The public will be drawn in by popular science books, hell, I love reading them myself, and there will always (I hope and ironically pray) be guys at the top of the field who can write non-popular but entertaining books for those who either have a bit of background in "science" in general, or want a bit more depth to their pop-sci introduction. Science writing is alive and well. It's never going to compete with "everything else", the fiction section at work takes up a third of the shop, and rightly so. We're talking a niche product, but as a niche the quality and passion behind it is very very high. And I'm referring to both the writers and the customers.


      And the booksellers....obviously ;)

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  5. Good books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Who needs books? Most scientists read wikipedia. Or science journals as pdf's.

    1. Re:Good books? by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      What about children who might be interested in science?

    2. Re:Good books? by Vectronic · · Score: 1

      Those are hobbyist, not scientists.

    3. Re:Good books? by sm62704 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Who needs books? Most scientists read wikipedia.

      REAL scientists know wikipedia is unreliable. That's why they use the Uncyclopedia.

      Scientific Way of Doing Things
      Developed at the precise moment everyone thought science was just a passing fad, the Scientific Way of Doing Things formalized the approach scientists would take to remove knowledge from human minds, allowing the field to flourish and fully separate itself from its mystic beginnings. In the words of metascience expert John "Don't quote me on this" Smith, "The Scientific Way of Doing Things is based on the ancient divination ritual of Guess and Check. Thanks to the innovations of the past century, we've been able to remove the 'Check' phase."

      The Scientific Way of Doing Things is strictly adhered to by all respectable scientists and involves 6 steps:

      1. Find a piece of information you dislike. In our example, we will use the statement "1+1=2"
      2. Form a statement which will take its place ("1+1=Dolemite")
      3. Email this statement to everyone you know. Include the subject line "FWD: Something u didn't know!!! I no i didn't!"
      4. Publish an article on your Myspace.
      5. Brush your teeth. A fresh smile adds a layer of believability.
      6. ?????
      7. Profit.
      Another place scientists go is Bob the Angry Flower. Here's another. And another. Oh look, here's one for you!
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    4. Re:Good books? by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 1

      They read The Lorax.

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    5. Re:Good books? by story645 · · Score: 1

      Magic school bus, sci-fi, some fantasy, and all those "1001 experiment" books-or they watch a tv show or actually do an experiment.

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    6. Re:Good books? by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      Perhaps I should have mentioned older children as well. Also,are the things you mentioned really a good substitute for "classic" books?

    7. Re:Good books? by The_Wilschon · · Score: 1

      On the contrary; wikipedia's articles on physics are often exceedingly good, and extensively used by scientists. Most of my colleagues (I'm a physics grad student) spend a great deal of time on wikipedia, whether for review, a different perspective on a difficult topic, or just curiosity. It rarely lets us down. (And yes we do verify the information, whether by checking against a textbook or lecture, or by just seeing how we do on homework sets and tests.)

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    8. Re:Good books? by story645 · · Score: 1

      Well sci-fi and fantasy novels are classic books in some sense, and "1001 exp." books are often a great mix of principal and practice (same with the Magic school bus books actually.) Some of my earliest science books were of the "1001 answers" variety.

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    9. Re:Good books? by athena_wiles · · Score: 1

      I definitely agree with this - I'm a grad student in the physical sciences, and perhaps 9 times out of 10, when I need a brief introduction to a new topic, Wikipedia is the place to go.

      No, the articles don't go into great depth... but they do get the essentials, which are often hard to parse out from the detailed info in textbooks, so the Wikipedia articles are a great place to start and get a feel for the topic!

  6. Barking up the wrong tree by archen · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Isn't this subjective with the term "best read". I can tell you right now that I'm not even moderatly interested in the majority of those books. I could name a few fantasy books I'd say would say most certainly beats many of those on that list but because of my own tastes.

    A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking I actually found to be a great read if they need suggestions on science literature. Again, who considers science a "good read"? Not most people I would say.

    1. Re:Barking up the wrong tree by story645 · · Score: 1

      Isn't this subjective with the term "best read". I can tell you right now that I'm not even moderatly interested in the majority of those books.

      I've read a good sample of the books on their list and few would end up in my best. Still not sure how Goblet of Fire-which few, if any HP fans would name the best of the lot-ended up #2 and none of the others managed to even show up. This whole list just seems incredibly random.
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    2. Re:Barking up the wrong tree by DrLang21 · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure how any Harry Potter book could even make the list at all. The Harry Potter series was simply written and not intellectually engaging at all. This is not to say that I think they were bad, but as far as books targeted at young audiences go, they are not the best. They're simply the easiest. And this is all without even going into the absurdity of the plot and the behavior of the adult characters.

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    3. Re:Barking up the wrong tree by story645 · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure how any Harry Potter book could even make the list at all. The Harry Potter series was simply written and not intellectually engaging at all. I disagree 'cause I happen to think they're fabulous-lots of layers of symbolism and characterization (really solid for the kids and teams) and some of the most structured books around, though I agree that the plot was weak and the writing wasn't the best. That being said-I still don't think that GoF was the best of the lot. (And the HP books are some of the best children's books in the past 25 years-most of the really great books are from the 60s/70s and just miss the cut off, and most everything in the past 10 years are bad HP knockoffs.

      Though really, the list shouldn't mix children's and adult lit 'cause it broadens the field too much and makes it impossible to find some arbitrary value judgment. Some of my faves are on the list-Maus, Kavelier and Clay, Giver-and some I can't stand-His Dark Materials-and they're not even in the same league. They deal with material very differently, have very different writing styles, and have very different appeals (same with HP.)

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    4. Re:Barking up the wrong tree by 2cute2kill · · Score: 1

      (And the HP books are some of the best children's books in the past 25 years-most of the really great books are from the 60s/70s and just miss the cut off, and most everything in the past 10 years are bad HP knockoffs.

      Okay I take extreme exception to this comment. I've read all the Potter books, and quite a bit of other Young Adult fiction to boot, and I wouldn't call even half of it HP knock offs, not to mention the fact that the basic idea of a young boy or girl suddenly finding they have magical powers and then being trained in the ways to use them is not an idea that just suddenly came along with the advent of Harry Potter.

      Of course I wouldn't call the series the best in even the young adult catagory. Want a good story with nice symbolism, strong characterization and a well worked plot try the Key's to the Kingdom Series by Garth Nix, or maybe the Artemis Fowl Books by Eoin Colfer, or the Septimus Heap Books by Angie Sage, or perhaps the Young Wizard books by Diane Duane, or the Chronos Chronicles by Anne Ursu, better yet try the Tiffany Aching books by Terry Pratchett. As for Children's and Adult Lit mixing, the judge of whether a book is good shouldn't change based on whether it gets (arbitrarily in my opinion) classified as Child or Adult Lit, it should be based on whether its well written, has a strong plot, well developed characters and is engaging to the reader.

    5. Re:Barking up the wrong tree by story645 · · Score: 1

      I've read all the Potter books, and quite a bit of other Young Adult fiction to boot, and I wouldn't call even half of it HP knock offs,

      And I practically live in the children's/teen's section, and well a decent amount of the stuff on the shelf isn't all that original. The non-fantasy has plenty of stuff that is different, so I definitely should have qualified-but it sometimes seems like a lot of what's out there is very similar to what's popular (and for good reason-it should appeal to the same audience and therefore sell.) Granted too, HP style books have been around long before HP, so yeah knock off was a bad choice of words-but it does often feel like a lot books are getting greenlighted just 'cause they have striking similarities to HP.

      Want a good story with nice symbolism, strong characterization and a well worked plot try the Key's to the Kingdom Series by Garth Nix, or /br> Garth Nix is good, (read the Abhoresen trilogy+companion and currently reading the Key's series) but he's a lot denser than Potter, not as funny, and I honestly don't find his characterizations that much better, though the plots are richer. I'll own up, my 60/70's comment is heavily colored by the fact that my favorite author is Lloyd Alexander, and that's when he did some of his best work. Shel Silverstein is another from that era, and LeGuin did some of her best children's work then.


      As for Children's and Adult Lit mixing, the judge of whether a book is good shouldn't change based on whether it gets (arbitrarily in my opinion) classified as Child or Adult Lit, it should be based on whether its well written, has a strong plot, well developed characters and is engaging to the reader. I agree with you that "good" shouldn't depend on age characterizations-but the standards for good are totally different for children's and adults works. Different themes and characterizations are valued, as are different styles;I'll take two works of the same genre-Kavelier and Klay and Number the Star-both are very well written, have great prose and all, but totally non-comparable 'cause the audience is different. NtS speaks perfectly to it's audience, really gets things across, but it's not even in the same playing field as K&K (and it's not supposed to be 'cause it's purpose is different.) My favorite books are kids books- I think the distinction is necessary and valuable but I don't limit what I read because of it. (And yeah, of course sometimes it's arbitrary-teen issue books often have more "adult" content then the avg. adult book, but even the best written teen book handles that content differently (and as often as not better) than it's adult counterpart.)

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  7. Science Superheroes by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "EW's list seems to represent a major shortcoming in the field: it still isn't diffusing into popular culture."

    A professor once gave me a book called The Existential Pleasures of Engineering (http://www.amazon.com/Existential-Pleasures-Engineering-Thomas-Dunne/dp/0312141041/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1214425954&sr=8-1), which began with a discussion of engineers as romantic, heroic figures to the people of the late 19th century. This is still true to some extent in some places like France. Right now in the US we're in an anti-intellectual upswing, but that doesn't mean we won't have another golden age of cultural interest in science.

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    1. Re:Science Superheroes by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Right... we just have to wait until all the current Americans are dead, and hopefully the new generation will have the capacity for forethought.

      *crosses his fingers*

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    2. Re:Science Superheroes by claygate · · Score: 1
      Not ALL current Americans. But we have lost the majority of a few generations. If we took 10% of our defense budget and put it into education I believe we would solve a lot of our problems.

      The general population wouldn't be as xenophobic, thus less willing to go after the "evil doers" as our current leader labels them.

      There would be fewer "evil doers" because we wouldn't run around the world in a ignorant haze spewing American propaganda without realizing that, perhaps, we're lucky to be where we are. It is not a eternal right. The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers

      we're becoming so busy trying to protect what is already here we have become myopic. The world changes. Everything changes. If you're not changing then entropy sets in and the end product is disorder. And the more I travel around this country the more it tends to look like it is falling apart slowly. Bridge by bridge, neighborhood by neighborhood. The gentrification process is slower than the sprawl and subsequent dilapidation that occurs.

      The US is still a country of immense wealth, both intellectually and in natural resources. But there is a fundamental issue where the culture is becoming one of fear rather than optimism. This is not sustainable or productive. It's up to us to change where we're going. Family member by family member. Friend by friend. And even, stranger by stranger. You have to build it piece by piece even when misguided leaders break it down so quickly.

    3. Re:Science Superheroes by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      If we took 10% of our defense budget and put it into education I believe we would solve a lot of our problems. This would only make the problem worse. We are already throwing tons of money at our "educational" system. That money is being used to "Socialize" our children. It is not being used to teach them critical thinking. Just look at the home school/public school debate. It isn't about kids getting a good education, as it has been clearly shown that home schooling is superior in that regard. It is about the "socialization". Our public schools have become public orphanages. Many, if not most kids, now spend more time under the care of the state than they do their biological "parents". These public schools/orphanages see themselves as the the social trainers of the nation. The trend is even to take on more and more of the role of food provider. School lunch programs keep expanding, and now the school breakfast programs are taking off. So, if a kid is in the custody of the state more than their biological parents, and are fed as many meals by the state, who is really the parent? Given the job that our public school system has done at raising the last couple of generations, do you really want to give them even more resources? Ignorance and the spewing of American propaganda would only become worse.

      Before you start throwing more money at an already well funded "educational" system, you had better first make sure that it is actually teaching the things you want taught.
    4. Re:Science Superheroes by claygate · · Score: 1

      Ahh... semantics. I said into education and I mean into EDUCATION. I'm not speaking of the political meaning of education which is socialization. I mean pay teachers more and shrink class sizes. Those are the only two things needed. It would bring intelligent, thought provoking people from industry into teaching roles who would engage students in critical thinking. Smaller class sizes would also remove the disruptions and pitfalls of an unmanageably large number of students with disparate abilities in one class. No more lowest common denominator teaching.

    5. Re:Science Superheroes by claygate · · Score: 1
      Ahh... semantics. I said into education and I mean into EDUCATION. I'm not speaking of the political meaning of education which is socialization. I mean pay teachers more and shrink class sizes. Those are the only two things needed. It would bring intelligent, thought provoking people from industry into teaching roles who would engage students in critical thinking. Smaller class sizes would also remove the disruptions and pitfalls of an unmanageably large number of students with disparate abilities in one class. No more lowest common denominator teaching.

      I accidentally replied to my comment instead of yours first! :) As you were.

  8. Consider the source? by sithkhan · · Score: 1

    I'm all for the diffusion of hard science into the mainstream, but for Entertainment Weekly to bemoan this dearth? I could see Newsweek or Time crying over this, but ET? Maybe if they actually published more reviews of science books, there could be a correlative response. I doubt that, as science doesn't sell like smexy.

    I suggest The Making of the Atomic Bomb by Robert Richards. That's a good, meaty science book.

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    1. Re:Consider the source? by FrameRotBlues · · Score: 1

      Mmmmmm, I don't think EW was bemoaning anything. They just compiled a list, and others (in science-related fields) are bemoaning it.

      I'm sure those in the undertaking-related fields are bemoaning it, too.

    2. Re:Consider the source? by reverseengineer · · Score: 1
      I'm not certain the submitter understood the article submitted. If you look at the Entertrainment Weekly link, there's no jeremiad about the lack of science works in its own list. The complaint about the list comes in a blog post about said list, and did not come from EW.

      I usually have scant praise for Entertainment Weekly, a magazine which tends to make People look like The Atlantic Monthly, but I have to say that other than the lack of science nonfiction, I was fairly satisfied with their list. Lots of Booker and Pulitzer winners and shortlisters on the the EW list, but not really anything so pretentious that it was clearly added to look impressive. There's a nice (though strange) mix of different genres, though I think a separate list for nonfiction, underrepresented overall, was warranted.

      There are the usual issues with making a numbered "best of" list, particularly one with such diversity (Is Bridget Jones's Diary a better read than Neuromancer? Depends on who you ask.), and there seems to be an invisible rule to limit to one entry per author. As with any such list, yes, there are changes I'd have made if I made the list (did they fear cancelled subscriptions if they didn't pander to Oprah's Book Club?), but overall, considering the source, I can't complain too much. As far as adding science: Simon Singh's The Code Book, Matt Ridley's Genome, and Kai Bird and Martin Sherwin's American Prometheus spring to mind.

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  9. re by JohnVanVliet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    any and ALL books by Carl Sagan, A.C. Clark (non-fiction), A.Asimov (non-fiction) and a MUST READ Carl Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark"

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    1. Re:re by Hatta · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'd add anything and everything from Feynman. Even his biographical writings are full of information.

      Also, I'm surprised to be the first to point out "The Road to Reality" by Roger Penrose. There's nothing new in the book really, but he's the first to put real mathematics in a book targeted towards a general audience. If want a deeper understanding than you can get from A Brief History of Time, but you're not prepared to read a graduate physics text, The Road to Reality is for you.

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    2. Re:re by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Boy, I should RTFS.

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    3. Re:re by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      While not strictly 'about science', Project Orion: The True Story of the Atomic Spaceship is an interesting look at atomic powered space craft. Some yummy geek fodder in there.

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    4. Re:re by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There so many books to add, especially if you are working in the sciences. But for a general overview, I would check the Top 100 Nonfiction books chosen by a board at the Modern Library (http://www.randomhouse.com/modernlibrary/100bestnonfiction.html). Note that James Watson's book is at number 7.

    5. Re:re by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just getting to the end of "The Road to Reality" at the moment and while I must say I've enjoyed the book I do have one major point of criticism. His attempts to deal explicitly with the mathematics behind the physics that is usually present in pop-sci books doesn't come off too well. He doesn't give enough detail (IMHO - B.S. in C.S. and a minor in Math) for someone like myself to be able to grasp the mathematics, which is probably my fault entirely. I think the big problem is that it's pretty much impossible to present the math behind things like QFT and Twistor theory to a lay audience since the notions rely upon having the kind of foundation that only a degree in Mathematics can bring about... The good news is that with all the math taken out you still have an interesting book that looks a lot deeper into what is going on currently then most pop-sci's provide. I think the key to enjoying this book is knowing when to follow along with the math and when to just gloss over and get to Penrose's usually brilliant, if sometimes unconventional, viewpoints on the implications of the illustrated principles and how they (may) relate to the physical world we live in.

  10. Is this the start of a backlash? by seanonymous · · Score: 1

    Have the critics finally become fed up with the words "for Dummies" being appended to everything?

    1. Re:Is this the start of a backlash? by zazenation · · Score: 1

      Have the critics finally become fed up with the words "for Dummies" being appended to everything?

      They really got fed up after ----

      "Criticism for Dummies"

  11. A Brief History of Time? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    Sure, it was 20 years ago, but it was a pretty good book for the unwashed masses.

    One might say the same about most technical subjects. Given the overwhelming list bias towards fiction, it isn't that surprising. How may of your parents or children took A New Kind of Science to the beach this summer?

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    1. Re:A Brief History of Time? by vrmlguy · · Score: 3, Funny

      How may of your parents or children took A New Kind of Science to the beach this summer? I did. The back door of the beach house won't stay open, and I needed a doorstop.
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    2. Re:A Brief History of Time? by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      he Cosmic Code: Quantum Physics as the Language of Nature is a decent read but published in '82, is a bit lacking with modern developments. Still, it's history of Quantum Mechanics is very well written and easily understood. Makes a good intro for older kids.

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  12. Batting 1000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I haven't read any of the books on their list, and I've only heard of about a quarter of them. They need to travel in wider circles.

    1. Re:Batting 1000 by Dahamma · · Score: 2

      As do you...

  13. A history of Pi by michaelepley · · Score: 1

    I'll nominate "A history of Pi" by Petr Beckmann. Concise, witty, and very approachable for non-mathematicians.

    1. Re:A history of Pi by Omestes · · Score: 1

      Don't forget "The Golden Ratio" by Mario Livio.

      Roberto Vacca's "The Coming Dark Age" is also a fun one, if you can find it in print, and in english.

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    2. Re:A history of Pi by edlinfan · · Score: 1

      I'm seconding A History of Pi. A little heavy on formulae, but they are mostly high-school level, and you can muddle through without them if need be.

      But Beckmann's writing style is very engaging. Because most great mathematical minds worked on pi at some point, the book reads like a series of mini-biographies of great (and not-so-great) mathematicians. The author pulls no punches---he doesn't hesitate to insert his opinion about the subjects. He praises Archimedes and derides Pascal. Definitely not "stuffy old history"... it's hilarious at times.

      Just my $0.02

  14. The World Without Us by EMeta · · Score: 1

    It goes into other things through its pages, but "The World Without Us" by Alan Weisman is on my top 20 list for the last 25 years, and certainly on my top 100 all-time.

  15. Godel Escher Bach by sfazzio · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I know-- it's not _really_ a physics book, but Hofstadter is (was) a physicist. And the book is amazing.

    1. Re:Godel Escher Bach by amRadioHed · · Score: 1

      That book is 29 years old though, so it doesn't qualify. He has other books in the past 25 years however.

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    2. Re:Godel Escher Bach by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1

      I know-- it's not _really_ a physics book, but Hofstadter is (was) a physicist. And the book is amazing.

      According to the Wik, while his Ph.D. is in physics, he's been a professor of cognitive science, computer science, psychology, history and philosophy of science, philosophy, and comparative literature - but never of physics. (Of course, Hofstadter has said that that entry is "filled with inaccuracies, and it kind of depresses me."

      But let me recommend the collection The Mind's I , edited by him and by Daniel Dennet. It'll introduce you to Hofstadter and Dennet, and also to folks like Borges, Smullyan, Dawkins, Turing, and Lem.

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  16. Check the demo. by urcreepyneighbor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Uh. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the twits and twats that read Entertainment Weekly simply aren't the same people that would read anything by Kaku or Sagan or Dawkins or anything else that would make them use that three pound enigma in their skulls.

    I, for example, don't know any of the current videos on MTV or BET. I'm just not in that demographic.

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    1. Re:Check the demo. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Current videos on MTV? I think that's what my grandfather watches. Perhaps next you can explain to us how great Saturday Night Live used to be.

    2. Re:Check the demo. by slashhax0r · · Score: 2, Funny

      Whats BET?

    3. Re:Check the demo. by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Saturday Night Live will be airing it's first episode this Saturday night. Has George Carlin hosting.

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    4. Re:Check the demo. by colfer · · Score: 1

      EW is the best of its sort, much better than People or Us or the real trash. Stephen King writes a monthly column. The issue they're talking about ranks top 100's from the last 25 years. You might sorta agree:

      movie: pulp fiction
      tv: simpsons
      music: purple rain
      theater: angels in america
      video game: tetris
      books: 'the road' by cormac mccarthy

      books #7: maus
      books #13: watchmen
      books #22: brief wonderous life of oscar wao
      books #26: neuromancer
      books #40: his dark materials
      books #46: sandman
      books #47: tipping point by gladwell

      It's basically a fiction list. That in itself goes against the commercial trend, which is heavily non-fiction.

    5. Re:Check the demo. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ditto, AC

    6. Re:Check the demo. by DrOct · · Score: 1

      Videos? On MTV? It has been a while since you've watched MTV hasn't it?

  17. For Me... by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.amazon.com/Science-Class-You-Wish-Had/dp/0399523138

    "The Science Class You Wish You Had"

    It covers a LOT of ground in very short time, and makes everything accessible. This is definitely for people who think that Harry Potter is the #2 best book of the last 25 years.

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    1. Re:For Me... by steelfood · · Score: 1

      These are not "Classics." Classics are things that survive the test of time. They aren't necessarily "popular" per se, but they are constantly referenced in popular culture, and continue to be meaningful and enjoyable even today. The Odyssey, Hamlet, Huckleberry Finn, these are classics. Harry Potter and The Da Vinci Code, not so much.

      I'm sure Henry James was pretty damn popular back in his day, but who the hell reads him anymore? In fact, how many people could name a book by Henry James without doing a search online for the author?

      As for science books, I'd suggest looking at "The Elegant Universe" or "Silent Spring." I don't think the latter was written within the 1983-present timeframe though.

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    2. Re:For Me... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      How about The Sheep Look Up ? I like to read that and then watch Silent Running while drinking anti-freeze margaritas.

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  18. Great physics books? Surely you're joking! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    har har

  19. THE CULPRIT: Science as Entertainment by Illbay · · Score: 5, Insightful
    When I was a kid, and education seemed to be focused more on what was important rather than being "thick with thin things," science was considered "cool," to put it simply.


    Everyone was interested in it. The Space Race was still ongoing, magazines like Popular Science proliferated, and we Cub Scout and Boy Scout kids worked hard on our radio and electricity or bridge-building experiments. We all wanted to be scientists when we grew up.

    Now, everyone wants to be "in entertainment." Even the most well-known "scientists" are really CELEBRITIES more than anything else; they're famous for being famous. Instead of the staid, sober "Mr. Wizard," you have "Bill Nye the Science Guy" from about a decade ago, or the new Sid The Science Kid. It's all about fun and flash and, well, "celebrity," entertainment.

    We used to be "entertained" by the IDEAS behind what we were learning. We had imagination enough to extrapolate ideas like "hey, if I can make this model rocket fly up to 500 feet, maybe one day I can make one that goes the the Moon or Mars!"

    Now, it's all about what someone else is doing, for our entertainment, on TV. Don't need "hands-on," we can just watch someone else do "Science" that really just looks like an entertaining video game.

    Perhaps if we could get the kids back to doing REAL science - after all, when you're eight years old the same experiments that the scientists of three hundred years ago were performing for the first time are certainly NEWS to you! - instead of just seeking to entertain them, they might start to take it seriously.

    And that would be reflected in what we are reading and talking about as well.

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    1. Re:THE CULPRIT: Science as Entertainment by Someone+Awful · · Score: 1

      Technically the people who grew up in the 60s (who wanted to be scientists and thought science was cool) should have been the ones writing the books over the last 25 years. I think the real problem that was being addressed is that no one at EW reads science books. Not that celebrity culture isn't intellectually asphyxiating.

    2. Re:THE CULPRIT: Science as Entertainment by porcupine8 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Mr Wizard is not "serious science." Have you gone back and WATCHED any Mr Wizard recently? It's very much in the vein of "science = cool tricks you can do." Not that I don't love Mr Wizard and think he got a lot of kids interested in science, but scientists don't sit around doing cool tricks, and he often didn't even explain the mechanisms behind the tricks more than in passing. Bill Nye (again, I love the show, BUT) is "science = a collection of facts about the natural world."

      There's a new show on PBS now called Dragonfly TV that I think reflects the current trends in science education research, which in turn are trying to capture what it is scientists really DO. This show is all about real kids who are using science and doing experiments in order to solve actual problems in the real world. It's "science = a process used to solve problems." In one episode, for instance, the kids on a reservation want to make a cheap, lightweight, watertight, flameproof material to make housing out of. They test bricks made of a variety of different materials, and finally settle on bales of hay covered in cement - and then actual houses are built out of them!

      I think things like Mr Wizard and Bill Nye are great for sparking interest, but don't let your rose-colored glasses fool you into thinking that Mr Wizard is "real science" and everything else is pop fluff. He was the pop fluff of the time - like you said, in a post-sputnik world, everyone was focused on the cool tricks science can pull, the neato technologies "of the future" that science will bring us.

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    3. Re:THE CULPRIT: Science as Entertainment by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      It's funny, it seems people here tend to mention Bill Nye rather than Beakman. I always thought Beakman was the "bigger" show!

    4. Re:THE CULPRIT: Science as Entertainment by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      There's a new show on PBS now called Dragonfly TV that I think reflects the current trends in science education research, which in turn are trying to capture what it is scientists really DO. This show is all about real kids who are using science and doing experiments in order to solve actual problems in the real world. It's "science = a process used to solve problems." In one episode, for instance, the kids on a reservation want to make a cheap, lightweight, watertight, flameproof material to make housing out of. They test bricks made of a variety of different materials, and finally settle on bales of hay covered in cement - and then actual houses are built out of them! http://xkcd.com/397/
    5. Re:THE CULPRIT: Science as Entertainment by syousef · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think you need both. Science needs to be entertaining to keep people's interest. What I can't stand is when the science is sacrificed FOR the sake of entertainment.

      For example look at how unscientifically the Myth Buster's do their experiments. Their show would be a brilliant platform to drum in what the scientific method means and how to go about actually disproving or verifying a hypothesis. Instead they just blow shit up, and generally piss on the scientific method then come up with a conclusion that isn't supported by what they just did. In fact usually you could drive a truck through the holes in their experimental method. However instead of seeing this, people wonder why I'm so down on them and even here on slashdot I'm modded down if I bring this up. I'm not talking about wanting them to run boring studies either. They could do exactly what they do now but think of better ways of testing and come up with an estimate of how well they've proven or disproven what they set out to prove instead of just coming up with conclusions like the myth is busted based on a flawed experiment. The best they do is come up with "plausible" if they're not sure...

      Then you have people like Sir David Attenborough. His documentaries and work are first rate. Unlike certain animal behaviour celebrities he actually studies and documents what the animals do and goes to some trouble to ensure that the filming process doesn't disturb them instead of walking up to them and handling them roughly then screaming "wwwoooooooo". However his presentation is let down by a voice that is a cure for insomnia, and a lot of pregnant pauses in the discussion while we just watch the animal. In other words he's not entertaining enough. He's boring, and as a result he's not as popular as the animal molesting morons that most kids think of when they think of animal docos.

      You've got to have the right balance and almost no one does. It has to be exciting and entertaining and scientifically sound. I can count the number of shows that I'd personally call all 3 on one hand, and even then they're not interesting enough that my wife or extended will want to watch them.

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    6. Re:THE CULPRIT: Science as Entertainment by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Beakman's World had Senta Moses on it.

      Aaargle... Drool...

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    7. Re:THE CULPRIT: Science as Entertainment by roystgnr · · Score: 1

      Instead of the staid, sober "Mr. Wizard,"

      So there was no flashy Science As Entertainment there? You did notice that the guy's real last name was "Herbert", right?

    8. Re:THE CULPRIT: Science as Entertainment by Omestes · · Score: 1

      Wow... she has never actually been in a movie, or show, that I've seen... Must be cool.

      Seriously though, I never got Bill Nye, or Beakman, it was like science for kids with ADHD, too many flashed, noises, and too little content. My parents "made" me watch Nova, Cosmos (almost monthly, my mom had a crush on Sagan), and Mr. Wizard. The other "science of kids" shows were too distracting for me, or her. (also wasn't allowed to watch Sesame Street, since it was too stupid, and might give me ADD)

      Of course this was all interspersed with David Attenborough and Jacques Cousteau specials.

      I never got shows, media, that talked DOWN to kids. Your supposed to leave some things above their heads, to make them want to look it up themselves. Thats how you give them the lust for knowledge, and not just mere information.

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    9. Re:THE CULPRIT: Science as Entertainment by colfer · · Score: 1

      Some of the most popular sci books in the 1970s were anthropology books, more or less about sex: The Naked Ape, Margaret Mead, Happy Hooker, Jonathan Livingston Seagull... j/k on the last one!

      Last time I looked at Scientific American or National Geographic it was just a travesty. The articles used to take a week to read, at least for a kid.

  20. What about "A Brief History of Time"? by King_TJ · · Score: 0, Redundant

    It seems to me that Stephen Hawking's contribution really catapulted him into pop-culture. He's been drawn in a number of cartoon TV shows, including Family Guy and I believe The Simpsons. (He had a cartoon role in a Dilbert TV cartoon as well, but of course, that's far less mainstream.)

  21. how about by theuhstuf · · Score: 1

    Warped Passages by Lisa Randall?

  22. Yes, that is an interesting analysis. by Fooby · · Score: 1

    Never read a 404 before.

  23. It's like open source by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

    Sometimes life is a lot like open source development. If you want it that bad, quit your whining and write it yourself ;) Or you could start an open book and start contributing...

  24. Possible Reasons? by DesScorp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    First I'd have to possibly put Stephen Hawking's A Brief History Of Time on there. It was pretty popular, and really good at explaining the comments to a mass audience.

    Second, I just don't think popular culture is fertile ground for intellectual inquiry along the lines of hard science. Some popular mass-circulation magazines and newspapers used to have math and science sections of interest to general readership. You'll find nothing like that in People, Us, or USA Today.

    Third, I think scientists have gone somewhat at odds with the general population in the past few decades as well. This is still largely a religious nation, but many books by the most prominent scientists now spend most of their time not only questioning things like religious belief and cherished cultural traditions, but mocking them outright as well. Richard Dawkins all but calls religious people idiots in his books. That's kind of a hard sell when nearly 90 percent of your population believes in a God of some kind.

    What was that line from that movie... Contact? Palmer Joss's line?

    Our job was to select someone to speak for everybody. And I just couldn't in good conscience vote for a person who doesn't believe in God. Someone who honestly thinks the other ninety five percent of us suffer from some form of mass delusion.

    Just possibly, making the argument to most of the population that their beliefs are nothing but twaddle probably doesn't do wonders for book sales.

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    1. Re:Possible Reasons? by blackjackshellac · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Dawkins only started getting militant in recent years, after years and years of attacks on evolutionary theory by people who didn't know what the fsck they were talking about.

      It may be a largely xtain nation, but it isn't as xtian as the fundamentalists want you to believe. Dawkins has ended up on the NY Times best sellers list a couple of times exactly because of his attacks on fundamentalist xtianity, the exact brand of xtianity that is threatening the US because of the seditious nature of its teachings, and the indoctrination of its followers to blind acceptance. these are people who support Israel's existance so that it can be nuked off the face of the planet! These people are insanely dangerous.

      More and more people are accepting that religion should not be taken literally, and while many are still afraid to accept an atheist worldview, the number of atheists is growing.

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    2. Re:Possible Reasons? by clarkkent09 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Just possibly, making the argument to most of the population that their beliefs are nothing but twaddle probably doesn't do wonders for book sales.

      I dunno, The God Delusion by Dawkins make precisely that argument and it was in NYT bestsellers for 51 weeks, reaching #4, as well as #2 on Amazon. There are more atheists out there than you think, especially among the more educated and intelligent, and therefore among those who tend to read more.

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    3. Re:Possible Reasons? by DesScorp · · Score: 1

      I dunno, The God Delusion by Dawkins make precisely that argument and it was in NYT bestsellers for 51 weeks, reaching #4, as well as #2 on Amazon. True, but I didn't mean that atheists were doomed to market failure... almost 10 percent of the US population is agnostic or atheist, so there's 25 million+ plus people to sell books to...my main point was that, if you're looking for a list of "greatest books" for the whole population (and sales are going to be part of that), then scientists are still somewhat out of the general cultural zeitgeist. For both good and ill, they really do live in another world.

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    4. Re:Possible Reasons? by jmac1492 · · Score: 1

      There are more atheists out there than you think, especially among the more educated and intelligent
      Evidently they're not more intelligent, if they don't believe in God. Do you see how easy that is to do?
      Science deals with what can conclusively be proven or disproven. The existence of God can't be proven one way or the other, so it isn't science. Therefore, a book on the topic isn't a science book. This applies as much to the Bible as it does to The God Delusion.
      Most people don't know who Richard Dawkins is, but they know who Stephen Hawking is. Hawking's book sold better for a number of reasons. Hawking's book primarily concerns itself with science, but does delve into the question of where the universe came from. I don't have it in front of me, so I can't look up the direct quote, but he says something to the effect of "Science concerns itself with the observable universe, therefore it can't really model what existence was before the Big Bang." He mentions that God setting up the big bang makes as much sense from a scientific perspective as anything else.
      Hawking is as famous as he is because he's not a dick.

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    5. Re:Possible Reasons? by clarkkent09 · · Score: 1

      For the millionth time, Hawking (as well as Einstein in "God doesn't play dice") did not mean the same thing by "God" as is commonly meant by religious people. I personally think that the use of the word God by scientists in this way is irresponsible but then it's their right to use whatever words they choose. Besides, I doubt that your quote is accurate since Hawking would surely not say something like "before the Big Bang".

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    6. Re:Possible Reasons? by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      Controversy will always make the bestseller lists. That doesn't give polemic works like "The God Delusion" any cultural staying power.

    7. Re:Possible Reasons? by clarkkent09 · · Score: 1

      It's a matter of degree I guess. Yes, the radical atheists are somewhat remote from the common people, but at the same time to say that we are living in a religious culture is not true either. 90% or whatever of people in USA (MUCH lower percentages in Europe, even a minority in some countries) pay lip service to religion but do they really live according to the Bible? There is not enough space here to list all the ways that the "religious" Christians disobey the God of the Bible (how many of them have even read it?) every single day. How many of them have NOT committed some or all of the deadly sins, as well as broken the 10 commandments etc. Not only that, but if they did obey God's commands to kill heretics, adulterers, homosexuals as well as those who work on Sundays etc etc they would be committing serious crimes, not only according to the law but also according to our current cultural zeitgeist as you say.

      In short, I don't agree with your conclusion that the rational scientific view of the world is not part of today's culture. It might have been true back in the middle ages in Europe or in some Islamic countries today, but not in the western culture, at least since Enlightenment.

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    8. Re:Possible Reasons? by bckrispi · · Score: 1

      It may be a largely xtain nation, but it isn't as xtian as the fundamentalists want you to believe.
      Recent polling indicates that over 40% of Americans believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis rather than Evolution. That is far, far to xtian for my liking...
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    9. Re:Possible Reasons? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      nearly 90 percent of your population believes in a God of some kind
      Maybe in America, not in the UK (or Europe).
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    10. Re:Possible Reasons? by DesScorp · · Score: 1

      nearly 90 percent of your population believes in a God of some kind

      Maybe in America, not in the UK (or Europe). Perhaps I didn't make myself clear, and if so, I apologize, but yes, I was definitely talking about America. Europe is most certainly in a Post-Christian phase among white Europeans, and a growing Muslim phase among their MIddle Eastern and African immigrants, a clash that ought to be interesting as the years go on.

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  25. A Brief History of Time by Quantus347 · · Score: 1

    Stephen Hawkings A Brief History of Time

    From Wikipedia:
    A Brief History of Time is a popular science book written by Stephen Hawking and first published in 1988. It rapidly became a best-seller, and had sold 9 million copies by 2002. It was also on the London Sunday Times best-seller list for a record-breaking 237 weeks.


    Sold that much and arguably changed more understanding than any science book since Einstien's Relativity.
    Its much less dry than most science books trend to. If that book doesn't qualify then no science book ever will unless its written by Bill Nye or has "For Dummies" at the end of it.

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  26. there's also Amir D. Aczel by thermian · · Score: 1

    Perhaps he's not written the greatest science books, but if your criteria is ease of reading, entertainment value and short enough that your average reader is likely to stay the course, then his work must be taken into account.

    The shortest book of his that I have 'The Riddle of the Compass, is light and entertaining, yet also manages to include a lot of hard fact.

    Also 'Entanglement' counts as being rather good, a very easy introduction to the subject of quantum entanglement.

    My favourite has to be 'The Mystery of the Aleph: Mathematics, the Kabbalah, and the Search for Infinity'. The title is long winded, but I have yet to find a better introduction to the history of Set Theory.

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  27. A couple of good science books... by puppetman · · Score: 1


    The Red Queen on the evolutionary benefits of sex (and how it pertains to evolution), by Matt Ridley and The Blank Slate by Steven Pinker, a book on Evolutionary Psychology.

    I still think back to both books when I ponder the behaviour of the people around me.

    1. Re:A couple of good science books... by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      The Red Queen is a great book - though mentioning Matt Ridley, I thought Genome was even better...

    2. Re:A couple of good science books... by droptone · · Score: 1

      Thank you! I know physics is god when it comes to nerds, but surely people are aware of the other sciences.

      Let me list some at least halfway decent science books from the past 25 years off the top of my head:
      Steven Pinker's The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature (2002)
      Steven Pinker's How the Mind Works (1999)
      Steven Pinker's The Language Instinct (1994)
      Richard Dawkin's The Blind Watchmaker (1986)
      Richard Dawkin's The Ancestor's Tale: A Pilgrimage to the Dawn of Life (2004)
      Matt Ridley's The Red Queen: Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature (1993)
      Matt Ridley's Genome: The Autobiography of a Species in 23 Chapters (1999)
      Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies (1997)

      And these are the relatively uncontroversial picks from the top of my head, if you wanted my opinion I'd throw in:
      Daniel Gilbert's Stumbling on Happiness (2007)
      Steven Levitt's Freakonomics: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything* (2005)
      Geoffrey Miller's The Mating Mind: How Sexual Choice Shaped the Evolution of Human Nature (2001)
      Jared Diamond's Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed (2005)
      Bryan Sykes' The Seven Daughters of Eve (2001)

      A few notes: first, I was using the 1983 cut off date which cut out Gödel, Escher, Bach (1979), The Selfish Gene (1976), The Extended Phenotype (1982), and several of Stephen Jay Gould's works like The Panda's Thumb (1980); second, I am younger than the time-span I am reviewing so I am surely missing out things from when I was younger; and third, I am avoiding physics all together because it's well-covered in this discussion and because I would only add in Hawking's A Brief History of Time (1988), and Michio Kaku's Hyperspace (1994) so surely there are others.

      *Economics is a social science, right?

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  28. Some suck.. others.. not so much by REJOSU · · Score: 1

    I can't refer to a post that was made in another discussion the other day because I'm lazy, but it stated that science has become so specialized that it is essentially pretty boring.

    I agree with this statement, the most influential science books are those you will read while studying subjects to practice them in your future.. at the time they suck though, at least in my experience.

    Finally, for entertainment, I have always found Michael Crichton's works... while dumbed down, were interesting because they tackled subjects that are pertinent, while also producing amusing story-lines. (Not all, but some).

  29. One of the better books I've read lately... by bill_kress · · Score: 1

    "A complete history of almost everything."

    It's just as advertised, and yet a great read.

  30. I've got a hypothesis... by mpapet · · Score: 1

    it still isn't diffusing into popular culture."

    I would argue that the ordinary person has turned away from Science in particular and Reason in general and allow for Faith to fill in where Reason once ruled. Therefore science is not of interest. At all.

    I'm not anti-religion. For many, it provides a structure they thrive in, general health and welfare benefits are well known.

    Calling it a "dark age" would be too simplistic. Maybe a "gray age" would be better?

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    1. Re:I've got a hypothesis... by chromatic · · Score: 1

      I would argue that the ordinary person has turned away from Science in particular and Reason in general and allow for Faith to fill in where Reason once ruled. Therefore science is not of interest. At all.

      It worked so well for Newton, Descartes, and Kant, for example?

      Blame television instead.

    2. Re:I've got a hypothesis... by trongey · · Score: 1

      I would argue that the ordinary person has turned away from Science in particular and Reason in general and allow for Faith to fill in where Reason once ruled. Faith isn't actually doing too hot either.
      Most people just seem to want to be entertained, not educated or made to consider moral issues. They want Fun to fill in where Reason and Faith would reside.
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  31. Headline needs re-stating: by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Entertainment Weekly too shallow to pay attention to science, blames scientific community"

    1. Re:Headline needs re-stating: by rikennedy · · Score: 1

      Better would be "Entertainment Weekly snubs science books in 100-best list."

      EW isn't bemoaning anything. The article contains no analysis of the list. The entire article is nothing but the list. EW isn't claiming to have a standing to complain about anything about the list.

      The headline at EW is "The New Classics: Books." That isn't making any suggestion at all. It's nothing but a couple of noun phrases.

      Maybe the headline should have been "Slashdot article submitter bemoans lack of great science books on Entertainment Weekly's list."

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  32. Any of Stephen Jay Gould's essay collections... by Diomedes01 · · Score: 2, Informative

    What about the compilations of Gould's essays for "Natural History" magazine? My two favorites are "The Panda's Thumb" and "Bully for Brontosaurus".

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    1. Re:Any of Stephen Jay Gould's essay collections... by Gat0r30y · · Score: 1

      2nd (its as good as Gould!). Additionally, Lives of a Cell is great.

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  33. GÃdel, Escher, Bach by NJVil · · Score: 4, Informative

    GÃdel, Escher, Bach has enough science in it (particularly cognition and neurology) to qualify as a "science book" (whatever that's supposed to mean).

    Definitely a must-read for anyone interested in metacognition.

    1. Re:GÃdel, Escher, Bach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong entity code.

  34. A Short History of Nearly Everything by cetialphav · · Score: 4, Informative

    I loved A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson. It is more of a history of science book. If you want to know something like how it is that we know the age of the earth and all the prior theories and how they were concocted then this is the kind of book for you. It is a very entertaining read as he often takes side tracks into the personalities behind the discoveries.

    1. Re:A Short History of Nearly Everything by ISoldat53 · · Score: 1

      If you get a chance, pick up the Audible version where Bryson reads his book.

    2. Re:A Short History of Nearly Everything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The science of discworld.

      Not only is so chock full of scientific facts that I learned quite a few things, and wondered about a few more, it's also interesting and just damn funny enough that you'll want to read it again. Even more importantly, it explains what science is *about* and *how it works*, which, considering the content of their list, is not something their readership would necessarily be familiar with.

      Then again, the only one I read on their so-called "100 best reads" list is The Da Vinci Code, 96th, which I found okay. So I guess I'm just not in the right demographic.

    3. Re:A Short History of Nearly Everything by eggoeater · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've read the book multiple times and listened to the audio book. The audio book, although well read by the author, is actually heavily abridged; you lose a lot of the good anecdotes that are in the book.
      My favorite one that wasn't in the audio book is about an 18th or 19th century astronomer that traveled to India to make accurate measurements of the transit of Venus. His voyage was delayed and was at sea during the transit but decided to stick around (12 years) until the next transit. The big day came and clouds rolled in just in time to obscure his viewing. On the trip back he got sick and had to spend a year in Africa. By the time he limped back home, nothing to show for his trip, he found out his family had had him declared dead, and looted his estate.

      That book is great and is chocked full of historical anecdotes like that. It's also very well researched.

    4. Re:A Short History of Nearly Everything by eggoeater · · Score: 1

      The other thing he emphasizes in that book that I really like, is the fact that there's so much in science we don't know about. Most people, esp. kids, think that a lot of science is "done". He makes the case that there's still a lot we don't know, despite how certain some scientists act. His enthusiasm for science and for it's teaching is very evident.

  35. Well, what qualifies as 'great read'? by smellsofbikes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If their demographic is twenty- and thirty-something people who want to read about movie stars and their lives, which is what Entertainment Weekly publishes (they gave me a free subscription, which now clogs my recycle bin, unread) they're pretty unlikely to enjoy books that aren't about movie stars.

    Bill Bryson's "A Short History Of Nearly Everything" is a fabulous read. One or two chapters each on astronomy, physics, chemistry, biology, you name it. There's a reason it was a bestseller: it is accessible to people who don't know an integral from an interval.

    There are scads of excelent science books out there: Sagan, Asimov, Zukav, Hofstatder. But if you want to read about Mel B's nose job, you're probably not going to rate them highly.

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  36. "Annals of the Former World"-John McPhee. Also... by david.emery · · Score: 1

    This book is without question the best science book I have ever read. But maybe it was too thick for Entertainment Weekly and its readership to consider...

    Other candidates include just about anything from Stephen Jay Gould, Steven Hawking or Richard Feynman. I'm not into biology, but I'm sure there are great titles from biology/medicine.

    If you include math as a 'science' for science writing, Mario Livio writes brilliantly, too. "Godel, Escher, Bach" actually doesn't qualify, since I bought my copy more than 25 years ago. (I had to special-order it and got a really weird look from the bookseller when it came in. A couple months later it was on the best-seller list. I just smiled...)

    Also if you cover engineering in the category, then anything from Henry Petrosky would also have to be on the intelligent person's shortlist.

    dave

  37. EW doesn't know what they're talking about by Doctor+Morbius · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What about "The Demon Haunted World: Science as a candle in the dark" By Carl Sagan,"The Blind Watchmaker" by Richard Dawkins, "The fabric of the Cosmos" by Brian Greene etc. EW is a bunch of idiots.

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    1. Re:EW doesn't know what they're talking about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parent mentioned fabric of the cosmos, but The Elagent Universe by Brian Greene was a great book and popular for a while. Hell, they even made a Nova series with Brian Greene as the host. It's on *my* top 25 books list. I didn't RTFA, but I might have to just to learn what their basis for a great book is. Are they going by highest sales, most positive reviews, or that older lady at the front desk that never seems to be working but always has a suggestion for a book or movie that you just have to see/read?

    2. Re:EW doesn't know what they're talking about by Phydeaux314 · · Score: 1

      I was very fond of The Elegant Universe. It was my bedside reading for quite a while.

      In the same vein, I can offer some suggestions:
      - The Five Ages of the Universe: Understanding the Physics of Eternity, by Fred C. Adams and Greg Laughlin.
      - The Book of Nothing: Vacuums, Voids, and the Latest Ideas about the Origins of the Universe, by John D. Barrow.

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  38. Micheal Crichton?? by finarfinjge · · Score: 1

    I found both State of Fear and Timeline to be excellent reads. Some may vehemently disagree with State of Fear as it is as much a political book as a science book, but Timeline was definitely science related. Jurassic Park too for that matter. All three were definitely better than the excruciatingly endless "the road".

    JE

    1. Re:Micheal Crichton?? by howlingfrog · · Score: 1

      I'm negating some spent mod points by posting, but I can't let this pass. Like every geeky 13-year-old in the world, I went straight from the movie theater to the bookstore after seeing Jurassic Park, and enjoyed the book immensely. But Timeline was what finally turned me off from Crichton, for two reasons. One, the "science" in it is gobblety-gook. He's using real words, but clearly has no idea what they really mean. It's the same level of bullshit as Star Trek (disclaimer: I like Star Trek), but Trek at least presents its bullshit as bullshit instead of pretending it's real science. And two, the plot is a blatant ripoff of the Hugo- and Nebula-winning Doomsday Book by Connie Willis, which is better-written and contains real science.

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  39. Oprah, we beseech thee! by elrous0 · · Score: 1

    Obviously we need Oprah to realize that there are some non-fiction books out there besides self-help titles, Deepak Chopra ramblings, and self-serving celebrity autobiographies.

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    1. Re:Oprah, we beseech thee! by vrmlguy · · Score: 1

      Obviously we need Oprah to realize that there are some non-fiction books out there besides self-help titles, Deepak Chopra ramblings, and self-serving celebrity autobiographies. I think that you've stumbled on part of the problem. A really good science book doesn't open itself up to discussion the way anything you listed does.
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  40. Science as Entertainment....... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ....is what gave us such intellectual skyscrapers as "Smashlab".

  41. Discover Magazine's top 25 science book list by city · · Score: 1
    From http://discovermagazine.com/2006/dec/25-greatest-science-books/

    Here is the only books from the last 25 years on the list... not sure how EW feels about them being "new classics" though.

    18. The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat and Other Clinical Tales by Oliver Sacks (1985)

    22. Gorillas in the Mist by Dian Fossey (1983)

    Honorable mentions

    5. A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking (1988)

    6. Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond (1997)

    7. The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene (1999)

    8. The Making of the Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhodes (1986)

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  42. "Flu" by SputnikPanic · · Score: 1

    Flu by Gina Kolata, which recounts a search for the flu virus that caused the 1918 pandemic, was a great and at times harrowing read.

  43. Not quite as bad as it looks... by gcalvin · · Score: 1

    Gibson's "Neuromancer" is on the list, as is "Fast Food Nation" which is bit science-y in a way. It's not that much of a stretch to consider Saramago's "Blindness" to be science fiction either.

  44. The Emperor's New Mind? by ManiaX+Killerian · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Excuse me? Penrose's "The emperor's new mind" was published in 1989 and is one wonderful book on AI - so great that I've read it a few times (I was 14-15 the first time I read it, it took pretty long to come to my country). Maybe EW should concentrate on the mindless entertainment?

  45. Feynman didn't write his autobiography by SuperBanana · · Score: 1

    I loved reading it too, so I was very disappointed to read that it was ghostwritten. It was ghostwritten by a close friend who worked with him on the book, but it was still ghostwritten...

  46. Maybe it's a bit cliche... by mdm-adph · · Score: 1

    ...but what about "A Brief History of Time," by Stephen Hawking?

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    1. Re:Maybe it's a bit cliche... by JumperCables233 · · Score: 1

      Hear here! One of the most accessible Science books I've ever read. Strange, though, that even though this (and for that matter "Cosmos") were both NY Times Best-Sellers, they would be left off. Perhaps Hawking and Sagan weren't quite beatnik enough for the EW guys.

  47. Not that I had a lot of respect for EW to start... by Diomedes01 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In my mind, a lot of these are questionable at best, but any organization that places a poorly-written piece of garbage like "The DaVinci Code" on a list of the top 100 books in the past 25 years immediately loses my respect.

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  48. My Suggestions for Good Science Books by PaulMorel · · Score: 1

    I've read plenty of good popular science books in the last few years.

    My favorite was Stephen Johnson's Emergence, which is about swarm intelligence. After that, I liked Amir Aczel's The Mystery of the Aleph ... a book about infinity, and the mathematics surrounding infinity.

    Neil Turok's new book isn't half bad. I think it's called Endless Universe.

    Finally, for people interested in more scientific writing that is still enjoyable, you should check out a series of collections called The Best Science Writing of 2007 (and 2006, 2005 ... so on). I've read 2 or three books in this series, and they're all good.

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  49. The death of critical thinking by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1
    This links well with what passes for "research" these days. Hit Google and cut&paste the first link. Watch a youtube video or two.

    In the "it's all about me and my feelings" generation, the need for, and value of, critical and objective thought has been lost.

    No wonder most kids (and many adults) really believe that a cell phone can cook an egg or pop corn.

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    1. Re:The death of critical thinking by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      Oh shut up. I'm of Generation Y and none of us actually think that way. At least, none of us who got into college. And the ones that didn't are too dumb to even grasp proper pseudoscience.

      The decline of science being "cool" is most likely due to the fact that all fun or practically useful science experiments or engineering projects have been removed from everyone's environment until they turn 18 for being "too dangerous". Teach the kids how to blow things up and they'll like learning science again.

    2. Re:The death of critical thinking by DrOct · · Score: 1

      As a fellow member of the Nintendo Generation (I much prefer that name to "Generation Y") I agree that this is one of the major problems with science education today. I was lucky enough to go through a pretty decent school system where they did actually encourage us to do fun and interesting science. My 8th grade science teacher, and high school cross country coach, was always setting things on fire and blowing up stuff, and showing us how to do the same (with a good lecture on the safety issues too of course). I also remember one time long after I was in his class, walking around the school with some friends after school and running into him outside. He had a bunch of stuff set up and just said "Hey want to see something really cool?!" and then proceeded to drop some elemental sodium into a bucket of water. It was pretty damn cool, and he was just doing this on his own time! I also had a chem/physics teacher later who helped us learn to blow glass and do all kinds of other cool stuff.

    3. Re:The death of critical thinking by DrOct · · Score: 1

      I don't know anyone who thinks anything like that.

  50. What abolut Richard Dawkins? by richieb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He's written a bunch of books that should be on the list: "Selfish Gene", "The Blind Watchmaker", "Ancestor's Tale" and last but not least "The God Delusion".

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    1. Re:What abolut Richard Dawkins? by curly_dan · · Score: 1

      And "Unweaving the Rainbow". It's a fantastic introduction to lots of aspects of life affected by science (DNA fingerprinting in courts, statistics and probability etc). I agree with your choices, but I think ALL his books are excellent.

    2. Re:What abolut Richard Dawkins? by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 0, Troll

      Polemic screeds against what 90% of the population believes just won't do that well.

    3. Re:What abolut Richard Dawkins? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Selfish Gene doesn't qualify (more than 25 years old), and God Delusion isn't a science book.

  51. In Other News by DynaSoar · · Score: 2, Funny

    Science Weekly's list of "The 100 Best Reads" includes not one single piece of popular culture fluff. Nor does it only go back 25 years, which is about how long people with no other useful purpose have been making money by turning information about entertainment (as opposed to entertainment itself) into a money making venture.

    When EW's history goes back far enough and has enough quality material listed that they can claim to have their equivalent to Principia Mathematia, then they'll have something significant to say about their own field. And they will probably still have no background from which to judge science literature.

    I read an entertaining and educational science book once a week whether I need to or not. Anyone wanting some suggestions along these lines, go read Alan Boyle's "Cosmic Log" on MSNBC and look up the archives of his Used Book Of The Month Club. Those who already read such things should keep an eye out for his next request for suggestions, and submit one. If it gets used, you get a prize -- usually another good science book he'd recently reviewed or otherwise acquired.

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  52. How can you forget about Hawking? by Someone+Awful · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And what about good old Stevie H.? Brief History of time anyone? Great book, widely read... and a damn good read at that...

    1. Re:How can you forget about Hawking? by hey! · · Score: 1

      Indeed. It's almost as if A Brief History of Time had been chucked into a black hole. Fortunately, you can't keep a good book down, so it's bound to resurface... eventually.

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  53. The God Particle by Myrv · · Score: 2, Interesting


    The God Particle by Leon Ledderman is one of my favourite Physics books. It offers an incredibly accessible introduction to particle physics for the non science oriented while at the same time provides a fascinating look (for the science oriented) into the history of particle physics by someone involved in several of the key discoveries of the last 50 years.

    1. Re:The God Particle by Omestes · · Score: 1

      I kinda agree. Sadly he have to sensationalize the Higgs, and treat it as a forgone conclusion, meaning it wasn't as scientific as it could have been. Seriously, why the superfluous "God" prefix? It was unnecessary.

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  54. Revelation Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    enough said...

    1. Re:Revelation Space by orkysoft · · Score: 1

      It certainly addresses the Fermi Paradox :-)

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  55. Everywhere but Ohio. by joshtheitguy · · Score: 1

    parching droughts and intense hurricanes as global temperatures warm (www.climatescience.gov). I don't know where the hell they are conducting these studies at but it sure is not Ohio. Lately from what I'm used to the tempatures seem anywhere from 10-20 degrees lower then usual for this time of year and I don't like it. Global Warming? Bring it on, I'm sick of snow and winter.
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  57. My all-time favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
    by Douglas Hofstadter

  58. Off the Top Of My Head.. by SaabSafetyGreen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Cuckoo's Egg by Clifford Stoll, The Soul of a New Machine by Tracy Kidder, and Basin and Range by John McPhee. All three were popular enough to make it onto the NYT best seller lists and were widely discussed as pop lit.

  59. Jacques Cousteau by ISoldat53 · · Score: 1

    Jacques Cousteau had a great series of books that more or less paralleled his TV series in the 60' and 70's.

  60. Science FICTION not the same a Science by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    Crichton writes science fiction NOT science. There is a huge difference! I have not read State of Fear but Timeline is clearly fictitious. Surely you don't think the 'science' behind the space-time machine was real?

    If you are ever in doubt about whether us physicists have invented time travel a good check is whether we are still asking for research grants. If we ever manage to invent a time machine then, thanks to a little magic called 'compound interest', research funding worries will be a thing of the past.

    1. Re:Science FICTION not the same a Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Roge, don't get your panties in a bunch over a nuance of language. I was readily able to discern that the parent meant "sciencey" rather than rigorous science.
      Cut back on the late night caffeine maybe? ;^)

    2. Re:Science FICTION not the same a Science by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

      This is not a nuance of language we are talking about but completely different genres of book here. One is fiction and the other fact. Would you mention Disney's Pocahontas as a good example of an historical documentary? Science fiction is great - I'm a fan of it myself - but I have often noted a worrying trend for people to think of these books as 'sciency' (as you put it). They are not, they are 'fictiony' and not science, rigourous or otherwise.

  61. A Few Suggestions by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 1

    Black Holes and Time Warps by Kip Thorne is an excellent read. It's both informative and (I think) easily read by the average person.

    The Demon-Haunted World by Sagan is a must-read.

    For math books, William Dunham's books are amazing: full of stories and history, but also explains the mathematics in question in elegant terms.

  62. On the Origin of Species by mzs · · Score: 1

    Charles Darwin

    I read this in high school and it was very readable. It was also a seminal work.

  63. Anti-Intellect by sohp · · Score: 1

    Richard Hofstadter's book Anti-Intellectualism in American Life was originally written in 1963. As such it discusses McCarthyism and "eggheads" like Adlai Stevenson, but the arguments are as current now as they were then.

    Entertainment Weekly will never find a science book that reaches its audience because no book that could legitimately be called science would ever fall far enough down the intellectual spectrum to be approachable by that magazine's readers.

  64. The Equation that Couldn't be Solved by Dan+Morenus · · Score: 1

    My favorite recent science read was _The Equation that Couldn't Be Solved_, by Mario Livio (Amazon listing). It's a great book about symmetry, group theory, and the lives of several of the mathematicians that discovered and advanced the field, such as Galois and Abel. It has some slightly fluffy chapters but there's a nice mix of mathematics and human interest. Not sure if it would play on Oprah, but Galois's story alone is pretty intense stuff.

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  65. A People's History of Science by nickhart · · Score: 1

    One of the best books on science I've read in the past decade is "A People's History of Science," by Clifford D. Conner. Along the same lines as Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States" (and Chris Harman's "A People's History of the World") this book explains the development of science from the standpoint of regular people. It debunks the myth that scientific advances come primarily from "great minds" and shows how much of our scientific knowledge (and the basis for advances) comes from the knowledge gained by workers--people interacting with their environment on a daily basis. Miners, midwives, sailors and others have played an invaluable role in the development of science, and while great minds have played their part, most history books give them far too much credit. My little paragraph here can hardly do the book justice, so grab a copy from the library and read it for yourself!

  66. It's less the lack of books... by jejones · · Score: 1

    ...than their choice of the "Top 100 Reads" of the past 25 years. Any such list that omits The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat is seriously broken. Others have already mentioned many books that should be on such a list.

    Without the 25 year limit, there's Asimov, Clarke, Bronowski, and Bertrand Russell for science, Jagjit Singh, Hogben, and Polya for math, just to mention a very few.

  67. "Microcosm" by Carl Zimmer by jamrock · · Score: 1

    I've read several glowing reviews of Microcosm: E. Coli and the New Science of Life by Carl Zimmer (this one is from Ars Technica), and I'm deeply intrigued by what I've heard of it. Reviewers agree that Zimmer does a wonderful job of explaining the science, as well as the attendant politics (stem cells, intelligent design), rendering it understandable to the layman, while not insulting the more knowledgeable. Would anyone here who has read it care to comment?

  68. Speaking of Feynman by sabre86 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    QED came out in 1985, making it only 23 years old. It'd definitely go on my favorite science book list. It explained virtual photons and summing of probability amplitudes quite well, I though, without calling in the heavy math.

    I'm also a fan of The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene.

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  69. Chaos: Making a New Science by handy_vandal · · Score: 1

    Chaos: Making a New Science
    by James Gleick [1987]

    Excellent science book for the non-specialist. Informative, entertaining, versatile.

    Link.

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  70. So now medicine isn't science? by grocer · · Score: 1

    Did I miss something? Is medicine no longer science? And the Band Played On shows up as number 86 and deals primarily with the social and governmental response to the AIDS epidemic but also discusses the initial epidemic and the medical response. Not pure science but as close to science as one will find on a "popular" list of books. Also, I found the the graphic novels interesting: Sandman, Maus, Watchmen all show up...not science but definitive evidence the geek culture has gone mainstream...

  71. Older Really *IS* Better..... by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1

    I think old science books make excellent "Time Capsules". It pretty fun reading about things that were cutting-edge for their time, and postulations and things that were mysteries back then.

    When I was little, I went to a book fair in the town next to me and bought about 2 dozen old sets of encyclopedias, engineering, biology, chemistry, and physics books from the '40s, '50s, and '60s. My parents went absolutely crazy when they saw how much I bought, even though I spent $25 for them (but the sheer VOLUME of what I bought is what pissed them off). I managed to save one book from the garbage can: an old encyclopedia for the '60s, but was also given a book on steam engine engineering that my great-great-great (I can't remember exactly) from the mid-1800s by my mother.

    Reading them, it makes understaning present-day material much more comprehensible.

    Personally, I think old and out-of-date books are just as helpful, if not more helpful, than current editions, since when you read an old book, you are reading about things that are the basics and building blocks of what is taught today. Since you are reading about these "building blocks", you have a better grasp on what led up to present knowledge and discoveries.

    Understanding a subject or concept is much easier when you start from the basics at the bottom, then jumping in at the middle, or starting from the top.

    In autoshop, we learned about engines and their basic design evolution, and modern engines and cars. But you aren't able to understand why cars and engines are built the way they are, and what developments in metallurgy, mechanics, physics, and engineering led to prediscoveries and present-day technology.

    By reading old publications, you can follow the full lifespan of a technology, concept, or idea from theory, inception, research, discovery, development, implementation, refinement, and either continued refinement, advancement, or termination. You are able to understand the mindset, thinking, and knowledge of the researchers of that particular time, instead of learing by being told "We use A instead of B because B was found to be better".

    Modern textbooks teach from basic generalizations, and without understanding the evolution of the concept, and the different schools of thought with regards to different levels of knowledge from different time periods, you don't really understand that "A is better than B" because you don't know *why* it is, *how* it is, how the concept progressed from "A" to "B", and why the concept worked without "B" in the first place, and the reasons for progression from neither, to "A" and then "B".

    Modern publications tech you what you know: Old textbooks tech you how you know it, why you know it, and how to understand it.

    The problem with modern education is too much empasis is placed on knowing things, and way, way too little emphasis is spent on understanding things.

    If you disagree with me, you either know more or less than I do, or you need to read an old book.

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  72. They must not have tried very hard... by wwalker98 · · Score: 1

    Godel Escher Bach? Chaos? Cosmos? Bueller?

  73. Not just science... by Grim+Beefer · · Score: 1

    Where is the nonfiction in general? It's not just science that got short-changed, but what about art, philosophy, technology (surely TECHNOLOGY has had a few "classic" texts in the past 25 years besides Nueromancer!), or politics?

    They included "Fast Food Nation" and "Nickel and Dimed", but what about, say, Chomsky? Surely you can't include, "America: The Book", and not have a single piece by any real activists. I mean, really, what a bunch of shit.

  74. It's hard to identify an audience by grizdog · · Score: 1
    The problem is one of prerequisites. If your book aims too low, it will bore people, and if it aims too high, you lose people. It's much easier to write for a special market segment, but then you lose the mass appeal necessary to achieve superstar status.


    Also, a lot of people don't want their fantasies dashed. It's not just the ones who don't want to hear about evolution, many people think they understand all sorts of scientific theories and don't want to hear that they are wrong.

  75. Anyone check what percentage... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone check what percentage of those books came off Oprah's bookclub list?

    When the only books your audience reads was recommended by their favorite talk show host.....

  76. Failure to plan ... by Maple+Syrup · · Score: 1

    hopefully the new generation will have the capacity for forethought. *crosses his fingers*

    I see a distinct lack of forethought in your plan ...

  77. Chaos by Alarindris · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Chaos: Making a new science, by James Gleick is an excellent book. It covers the history of fractals/chaos and reads a bit like a novel. The mini biographies of many cutting edge scientists that are discussed along the way are very interesting too. I highly recommend it. http://www.amazon.com/Chaos-Making-Science-James-Gleick/dp/0140092501

  78. Even the present list is silly by PCM2 · · Score: 1

    OK, so let's look at what they've got ... best read of the last 25 years?

    1.) The Road, by Cormac McCarthy.
    OK, well, 25 years makes for a crowded field, but I did enjoy this book thoroughly. Off to a decent start. Let's see what else we've got...

    2.) Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
    Ah yes, another literary triumph. Not quite as good as The Road, mind you, but almost. And clearly, someone's thought extensively about this. Note that they didn't drone on and on, naming all the Harry Potter books one after the other. No, they chose to focus on the one book in the series that's actually any good. Which happens to be the fourth one (the one in the middle).

    16.) The Handmaid's Tale
    17.) Love in the Time of Cholera
    Hmmm, rankings aren't that good. But what could they really expect? They were competing against Harry Potter. And The Watchmen, which has pictures. Bonus points for Handmaid, though; they at least made a movie out of that.

    21.) On Writing
    Shame on Stephen King. Since 1983 he's written Christine, Pet Sematary, It, Misery, most of the Dark Tower series, Dolores Claiborne, The Green Mile, Hearts in Atlantis, and countless others, but damn him, not one of those books can compare to a 288-page memoir he wrote about what it's like to be a fiction writer. In fact, I'm surprised he even claims to know what it's like. And even this book, in the end, lost out to Bridget Jones's Diary.

    40.) His Dark Materials
    Because, let's face it, Martin Amis is just too potty-mouthed to take the #40 spot. And The Kite Runner is about Afghanistan, and you know how we feel about those people.

    71.) The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down
    A book about the American healthcare system and a culture clash between Western doctors and an ethnic minority that fled the aftermath of the Vietnam War? Interesting choice. Frankly I'm surprised that frivolous stuff like this even made the list. You can see why it rates 25 lower than Neil Gaiman's The Sandman.

    80.) Bright Lights, Big City
    Take that, Bret Easton Ellis! McInerny rates, but you get zip.

    87.) The Ruins
    Now there's real talent for you! Who else but Scott Smith could write publish his second book ever -- a short horror novel about bloodsucking plants -- get it made into a B-movie, then still make the list above Annie Proulx (who won the Pulitzer prize for fiction in 1994)? Way to go, Scott!

    96.) The Da Vinci Code
    Boo, Dan Brown! See how we hate you? We're so tired of hearing your name -- and reading and re-reading all your books on airplane flights -- that we only rated you #96 on the list of the greatest classics of our age. That, and Tom Hanks's hair looked really weird in the movie.

    For the sarcasm impaired: Get yourself a library card and go read some real books, already.

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  79. Public Imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Far from it, it's just that for the most part the garage engineer has been replaced by the garage coder in popular culture.

    I doubt non-geeks can name 1 engineer (unless you count programmers).

    Designers like Hideo Kojima, software devs like Gates, Woz, Jobs and the brother's Google get more credit.

    Why? Well they are more likely to make all the subsequent developments needed for a brilliant idea to become a functioning product.

    I suppose the DWave engineers will probably cross this boundary... when their software guys get their product out the door.

    It's not hard to figure out, people have learned that construction acheivements are usually in materials and design not engineering. The continued existence of the 747 with all of its technical problems, high fuel costs, low seating #s and high maintenance show that some of the most powerful corporations haven't been able to find two brilliant aerospace engineers to rub together.

    Part of the problem is that society has taken a very negative view of risks created through engineering. Huge systems to level mountains, de-salinize seas and lakes, irrigate the Sahara, experiment with cloud cover to resolve global warming, etc. are not fashionable.

    The only other thing big enough to capture the public's immagination, projects with huge personal or financial risk, are rare because technology has largely caught up to Scientific theory.

    Meh, there's some good pseudo science... Dawkin's "Selfish Gene" or Atomic Bomb's for Dumbies are both good reading, partially because the ideas contained are so facinating and controversial.

    About half way through Bomb you realize you could have made one by now :P

  80. Must read ... by sgunhouse · · Score: 1

    A Short History of Time
    The Emperor's New Mind

    (I was going to say anything by Asimov, but that's more than 25 years ago.)

    Ah, I liked "Chaos" also - but I'm a mathematician, so maybe not.

  81. Misner Wheeler Thorne by Tired+and+Emotional · · Score: 2, Funny

    How could they leave this off the list of most entertaining books of the last 25 years. Not only does it teach a lot about gravity but you can use it experimentally as a central mass.

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  82. Song of the Dodo by Quirkz · · Score: 1

    "Song of the Dodo" is probably the most engaging science book I've read. "The Blind Watchmaker" was quite readable, too, and I look forward to more Dawkins. "Lonely Hearts of the Cosmos" was quite entertaining, even if it was as much biography as science. Like others have mentioned, "Brief History of Time" and several books by Sagan have a lot of sticking power. (Even Sagan's novel, "Contact," got across a bit of science.) Personally, the much mentioned "Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman" is why I studied physics in college. There are others, that's just off the top of my head.

  83. Some suggestions by Emperor+Skull · · Score: 2, Interesting

    James Burke - Connections, The Day the Universe Changed, etc. Simon Singh - The Code Book Schneier - Beyond Fear

  84. No science? Heck, there's almost no non-fiction by CharlesEGrant · · Score: 4, Insightful

    EW's list is almost entirely light fiction. Except for a few memoirs, there aren't any non-fiction books, let alone science books. I've enjoyed several of the books on the list, but it might be better titled "100 classic beach books".

    I'm not sure if the EW article changed since the Slashdot article was posted, but it doesn't look like EW made any remark about the lack o f science books. I think that was just the submitter's editorial comment.

    1. Re:No science? Heck, there's almost no non-fiction by city · · Score: 1

      I agree, I'm not sure why everyone is so upset with EW's list. What do they want them to do, alienate their entire reader base by telling them to read some nerdy science books? From my estimation of the typical EW reader (my friend's annoying girlfriend), that would probably be pretty close to her "100 best reads from 1983-2008".

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  85. Two Good Books by BIK · · Score: 1

    What about "A Brief History of Time"? Just outstanding. Also, "Einstein's Dreams" By Allen Lightman.

  86. Fermats last theorem, by Simon Singh by AlgorithMan · · Score: 1

    "Fermat's last theorem", by Simon Singh
    Great book about math, gives a good insight into what math really is and how mathematicians think and are...
    imo should be read by any pupil in an early grade level, before they start thinking math was difficult or boring...

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  87. Books that I was captivated by as a teenager by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Gravity, George Gamow
    Thirty Years That Shook Physics: The Story of Quantum Theory, George Gamow
    Birth of a New Physics, I Bernard Cohen

    The nice thing about these is that they don't pander or sensationalize the way much of what passes for current science writing does.

    As far as more recent work goes, I found "Subtle is the Lord", an Einstein biography by Abraham Pais to be quite good.

  88. WTF? by ARos · · Score: 1

    Errm.. Didn't Godel, Escher, Bach receive a Pulitzer Prize? The popular physics (Feynman, Sagan) and evolution (Dennett, Dawkins) titles have all received literary accolades in addition to welcome reception from the scientific community. Why should EW have anything to do with science? They should only be reviewing the pop sci-movies and TV shows and continue to neglect any material that requires thought.

  89. pop social science made the list by story645 · · Score: 1


    "EW's list seems to represent a major shortcoming in the field: it still isn't diffusing into popular culture."

    They've got a couple of pop-social science books on the list: Gladwell's Tipping Point (neuropsych), Ehrenreich's Nickel and Dimed (sociology), and Fast Food Nation (medicine/sociology/psychology sort of). Which means that even EW's audience doesn't mind science, so long as it's of the really soft no math, instant applications to people, can't even really see the science variety. (And actually, Gladwell's is decently scientific for being science lite). 3 out of 100 isn't that much worse than the percentage for some of the more popular fields (there are about 4/5 children's books on the list.)

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  90. Science books? by Lars512 · · Score: 1

    There's a huge amount of good work in the last 25 years. People who are interested in ideas will either read popular science, or science fiction. Here's a few recommendations.

    Popular science:

    • "Fermat's last theorem" by Simon Singh
      An interesting history of mathematics.
    • "Guns, germs and steel" by Jared Diamond
      A history of society to date, explaining in detail why some people did well and invaded others instead of vice-versa.

    As for science fiction, well...

    • "Snow crash" by Neal Stevenson
      Created the metaverse which inspired Second Life, and really opened up a genre.
    • "Consider Phlebas" by Iain Banks
      The first of his Culture novels, sets the scene for a utopian future where human and machine intelligence coexist.

    These barely skim the surface, but I'd rather not spend all day posting on slashdot.

    1. Re:Science books? by yuna49 · · Score: 1

      I'm amazed at how long it took for someone to mention Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs, and Steel in this discussion. Perhaps it's because it doesn't deal with space, math, or physics it hasn't been as popular among Slashdot readers?

      I'll just say that few books I've read have had such a profound effect on my thinking. Diamond's attempt to understand the modern global distribution of resources takes him into areas I knew nothing about like the prevalence and types of food grains and domesticated animals across the world.

      This is a great book and certainly deserving of its Pulitzer Prize.

  91. Re:Not that I had a lot of respect for EW to start by imadork · · Score: 1

    Thank you! I thought I was the only person who realized that The DaVinci Code is poo....

  92. Matt Ridley's Genome by ErkDemon · · Score: 1
    Please don't mention Matt Ridley to anyone from the UK.

    He was the overpriveleged, aristocratic-background free-market, governments-only-screw-things-up, good-genes-rise-to-the-top guy who used to lecture us in the Economist about how we ought to rein back government regulation of stuff like banking.

    Well, he landed a nice job as Chairman of a place called Northern Rock (where his daddy had previously been Chairman), where he got to see how real economics and market forces work.

    He crashed it.

    In an act of supreme irony, the UK government then had to bail the company out to prevent a national disaster, and clean up Ridley's mess. The taxpayer got saddled with a bill strongly into the double-digit billions, and potential liabilities also in the double-digit billions. So this rather sours the suggestion that we might like to buy his book. He doesn't need the money. We do.

    "The figure is the equivalent of GBP 3,000 for every family in Britain"
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  93. Without math, no science by ProteusQ · · Score: 1

    How about mathematical gems like "Principles of Mathematical Analysis" by Walter Rudin or "Algebra" by MacLane & Birkhoff? Or even "Zero: A Biography of a Dangerous Idea"?

  94. The best modern science book by randyleepublic · · Score: 0
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  95. Feynman by blind+biker · · Score: 1

    Some of Feynman's books are rather inaccessible, even to the great majority of Slashdotters: I have in my hand "Elementary Particles and the Laws of Physics - The 1986 Dirac Memorial Lectures" by Richard Feynman and Steven Weinberg. I love this book, and I wish I could participate to the lectures, but only after a thorough preparation. I thought my postgrad knowledge of material science and semiconductor physics will be enough to follow the book, but no. And with all that both authors/lecturers are extremely talented science pedagogysts!

    By the way, I highly recommend this little gem, if you're into particle physics.

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  96. Biology books by Beezlebub33 · · Score: 1

    Really, the biggest changes in science in the past 25 years have been in biology.

    Try anything by Jared Diamond, esp. 'Guns, Germs, and Steel'. Or 'The Beak of the Finch' by Weiner. Or most anything by Gould or Dawkins.

    Recently, I've been reading 'Endless Forms Most Beautiful, The New Science of Evo Devo' by Sean Carroll. I highly recommend it. That, and 'At the Water's Edge' by Zimmer highlight the fascinating developments in the past 25 years.

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  97. Bring back the Time-Life Science series! by jlowery · · Score: 1

    Large format, lots of pictures. Not a lot of depth, but started reading these in second grade. At first it was just the pictures and captions, but as I grew older I eventually got to the narrative as well. This instilled in me a lifelong interest in science, as I'm sure it would plenty of bright grade school students now days.

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  98. Re:Not that I had a lot of respect for EW to start by RedWizzard · · Score: 1

    In my mind, a lot of these are questionable at best, but any organization that places a poorly-written piece of garbage like "The DaVinci Code" on a list of the top 100 books in the past 25 years immediately loses my respect.

    You're right - it doesn't deserve to be in the top 1000 let alone the top 100. They do deserve some kudos for including Neuromancer, Sandman, and Watchmen though.
  99. Paul Davies by Alotau · · Score: 1

    I didn't see anyone mention him, so I thought I'd throw Paul Davies' name into the ring. My favorite of his (or any popular science book) is "The Last Three Minutes" which is a mirror to "The First Three Minutes." Whereas the latter discusses the birth of the universe, Davies' book explores what will be going on for the final moments of the universe. Very cool read.

  100. Principia Mathematica & On the Origin of Speci by AllInOne · · Score: 1

    My wife wants my 8 year old daughter to be a writer. (She is an English major who works at a hedge fund). I want my daughter to be scientist. (I am a psychology major, now building web apps).

    Finally I realized: why not both?

    In my opinion 2 of the top 10 most important books (in any field) written in the last 500 years are science books:

    Newton's Principia Mathematica

    and

    Darwin's On the Origin of Species

  101. What's with all the pop physics books? by fireboy1919 · · Score: 1

    My favorite book for understand the nature of mathematics, physics, etc. has always been Numerical Recipes: The Art of Scientific Computing.

    I can think of lots of other scientific books I like better and might put on my list, of course. Not a single one places the kind of emphasis on cosmology or unified theory authors.

    The parent, GP, and GGP are all pretty much confined to these areas. Why does popular science book = book about those things?

    Perhaps that's the root of the problem. These things are areas science delving into realms of speculation that we can't verify or test, and for the most part, can't apply to anything, and that requires highly advanced training to really understand the concepts (rather than just the facts that people tell you). Unusable knowledge isn't exactly the most gratifying knowledge to be had.

    Perhaps we need to find a way to promote the more attainable bits of knowledge.

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  102. Mandelbrot by illlfates · · Score: 1

    First off, I second G.E.B. (hofstadter) and The Demon-Haunted World (sagan) second, lets add The Fractal Geometry of Nature (mandelbrot) -- see dialogue with curator of MOMA and benoit in an article in seed magazine about six months ago. The Selfish Gene (dawkins), maybe, just maybe, The Quark and the Jaguar (murray gell-mann) Neuronal Man (changeaux) ..... But we can't blame the writers of E.W. for pandering to their audiences so self-destructively, they probably don't read much science.

  103. Entertainment Weekly Has a Book Section by nyekulturniy · · Score: 1

    Entertainment Weekly, despite the implications of trashiness in its name, has a book section. Although it's not as comprehensive as the New York Times or Washington Post Book World, it does treat literature seriously.

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  104. "Math Doesn't Suck" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How could celebrity-enamored EW ignore a book written by former child TV star Danica McKellar?

  105. Making of the Atomic Bomb by opencity · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The two Richard Rhodes bomb books are genius.
    The first one tells the story of 20th century physics and the rise of the Nazis. The second one ends with the Cuban Missle Crisis. Both are white knuckle history with the physics moving from ceiling wax to Mike.

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  106. I read that book a few weeks back. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It has its moments but mostly I was disappointed. Even for an autobiography it was self-serving to the nth degree.

    Maybe it was all the tales of, for instance, hot young women finding him attractive and "cute" (to quote him); or the breathless mentions of the famous VIPs he put in their places; Basically how he impressed everybody at every turn with every thing he did.

    I'm not necessarily denying the book's factual basis (he was a major achiever, after all), but the utterly relentless "I'm so amazingly great!" tone wore me down and soured my opinion of the man.

  107. Re:Principia Mathematica & On the Origin of Sp by Starburnt · · Score: 0

    8? Isn't that a bit young for an English major?

  108. James Burke by pipingguy · · Score: 1

    Connections, Day the Universe Changed. But that's more like history that explains the impact of science.

  109. I do know about a book... by Ken_g6 · · Score: 1

    Carl Sagan's Cosmos has a companion book. I happen to have the nice big hardcover version.

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  110. Sorry by rrohbeck · · Score: 1

    I was tempted to buy it once, but then refrained out of disgust for using "God" in a science title.

  111. The Road to Reality by rrohbeck · · Score: 1

    by Roger Penrose.
    Heavy at times, but the best physics book I've read in a long time.

  112. I'm not impressed with Sagan by Teancum · · Score: 1

    I'm not trying to flamebait here, so please don't read this as something more than just a critical review of Sagan's books.

    I've had the opportunity to read several of Dr. Sagan's books, and frankly I find them to be some of the worst prose that I've ever had the chance to read from anybody who put a pen to a piece of paper. I don't mean that lightly either, as I've read some awful content before as well, but in this case it was from a major publishing house and supposedly professionally edited.

    This said, if you look past the awful writing and some of the cheesy plot elements (in the fiction like Contact) there are some kernels of very interesting and amazing ideas. If anything, it is these ideas that carry the books.

    Contact is a good example of what I'm talking about, where more than once I had to throw the book into the corner of my bedroom as I was reading it due to the awful writing. I just couldn't spend that much time polluting my brain with such awful English. Still, the idea of E.T. contact was excellent, and as adapted into a movie (with Jody Foster!) made such an improvement over the book that I would strongly recommend that you skip the book and just watch the movie. Whomever the Hollywood producers got to write the script actually knew more about the English language and how to craft a story.

    I'm not going to fault Dr. Sagan for not trying to express his ideas, but he is far more popular than the quality of his books.

    BTW, I could say nearly the exact opposite of Dr. Feynman, as I think his writing is excellent and by far and away under-rated.

    1. Re:I'm not impressed with Sagan by syousef · · Score: 1

      Cosmos wasn't very good - the idea was but he didn't pull it off. However the movie made a mockery of the book so I don't know how you could think that's better.

      As for bad prose, you must be reading different books or focusing more on the words than the ideas. Demon haunted world is brilliant as a popular piece. Pale blue dot is excellent too.

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  113. Re:Not that I had a lot of respect for EW to start by sfsp · · Score: 1

    You're not alone.

    Start with an unproven, unprovable, undocumented and undocumentable assertion about a conspiracy involving one of the pivotal figures in history. Add in a number of simplistic puzzles anyone with a 19th century education could solve (NONE of which involve ANYTHING da Vinci did). Use an obscure conservative branch of the Catholic church as the villain, because of course conservative Catholics MUST be conspiratorial villains.

    And then write it in 4th grade-level English.

    It's tripe. I bought the book at Goodwill, and threw it away after reading it. I didn't see any point in subjecting someone else to that dreck.

    (Back on topic): Of course, the lack of SCIENCE books is basically because it's a list of FICTION...

  114. ok course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    EW should know-

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  115. Re:Principia Mathematica & On the Origin of Sp by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    My wife wants my 8 year old daughter to be a writer. (She is an English major who works at a hedge fund). I want my daughter to be scientist. (I am a psychology major, now building web apps).

    Finally I realized: why not both?

    No pressure then...
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  116. Influential books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That aside, have science books ever in modern times been a driving force greater than ones intended as (mere) entertainment, religious instruction, etc?

      Silent Spring comes to mind.

  117. Simon Winchester by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simon Winchester is the finest living prose stylist in the English language, IMHO. He's not strictly a science writer, but his popular geology books (The Map That Changed the World, Krakatoa, and A Crack in the Edge of the World) are not to be missed

  118. Simon Singh by bugeaterr · · Score: 1

    I've enjoyed all of Simon Singh's books, but Fermat's Enigma really stands out.
    "Math's Greatest Riddle" stood for 350 years taking swings from many a great thinker.
    Singh makes the math easy to understand,
    but what's REALLY interesting is the people who made progress towards the proof.
    Like Sophie Germain who disguised herself as a man, "Monsieur Le Blanc" in order to become a mathematician.

    He also did a similar treatment for Physics in "The Big Bang".
    Thanks to you fine slashdotters, I watched his entertaining talk on the book at the Perimeter Institute.

  119. Many wonderful books by pizzaworkshop · · Score: 1

    Feynman's QED, Dawkins' The Selfish Gene, Gamow's Gravity and 30 Years That Shook Physics (if only he were better at titles), Weinman's The First Three Minutes, The Faber Book of Science, Galileo's Daughter and Longitude by Dava Sobel, oh, and a wonderful read: Arthur Koestler's The Watershed (a book about Newton which only mentions him on the last page). A Brief History of Time is not a good beginner's text. Gamow is much more approachable.

  120. The other lists have science... by Xandar01 · · Score: 1

    While their book list is silly, at least they have some decent Sci-Fi in their movie and TV list.

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  121. Weinberg 1992? by Internalist · · Score: 1

    Given all of the physics books mentioned, I'm surprised no one has brought up Steven Weinberg's 1992 "Dreams of a Final Theory". It's one of the best "popular" science books I've ever read, and a great argument for the role of "beauty" in physical theory.

    I also nominate "The Atoms of Language" by Mark Baker (disclaimer: I had him as a graduate syntax prof) on linguistics as science. It's a great read, even for people trained in linguistics.

    Also, John Casti's "Paradigms Lost" and "Paradigms Regained".

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    Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. -- Wernher von Braun
  122. We are spending even more! by tjstork · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If we took 10% of our defense budget and put it into education I believe we would solve a lot of our problems.
    The general population wouldn't be as xenophobic, thus less willing to go after the "evil doers" as our current leader labels them.

    George Bush has actually increased federal educational spending by more than any US President since Lyndon Johnson.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-04-02-federal-spending-inside_x.htm

    And I wouldn't call Americans Xenophobic when the overwhelming majority of Americans are in favor of legal immigration. It's really only the unions and the cultural right wing that are against even illegal immigration.

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  123. Maybe what we have to realize... by FazzMunkle · · Score: 1

    Is that most of us interested in science literature have a somewhat esoteric interest when compared to the mainstream of civilization. It's easy to assume that everybody should be interested in some specialized field of interest when we are interested in it so completely. Which is why I liked Carl Sagan's ability to bring science, and correctly so, down to street level understanding for the masses. He was both entertaining and informative to listen to or read. He was a bridge between the esoteric and the general.

    And we have to stop condemning people simply because they don't find science compelling. As far as I'm concerned that's the fault of those in the fields of science for not making it more compelling outside of their circle of peers and fellow enthusiasts.

  124. Antireligious books are not science books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Atheism is just another religion!