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Does an Open Java Really Matter?

snydeq writes "Fatal Exception's Neil McAllister questions the relevance of the recent opening of Java given the wealth of options open source developers enjoy today. Sure, as the first full-blooded Java implementation available under a 100 percent Free Software license, RedHat's IcedTea pushes aside open source objections to developing in Java. Yet, McAllister asks, if Java really were released today, brand-new, would it be a tool you'd choose? 'The problem, as I see it, is twofold,' he writes. 'First, as the Java platform has matured, it has become incredibly complex. Today it's possible to do anything with Java, but no one developer can do everything — there simply aren't enough hours in the day to learn it all. Second, and most important, even as Java has stretched outward to embrace more concepts and technologies — adding APIs and language features as it goes — newer, more lightweight tools have appeared that do most of what Java aims to do. And they often do it better.'" Since Java itself never mattered except to sell books, I still don't see why opening it matters.

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  1. Re:Java never mattered by geekoid · · Score: 0, Redundant

    IT hasn't brought anything new to the table. There isn't anything it does that you couldn't do when it was released.

    It was hyped far beyond it's capabilities by people who wrote or published programming books.

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  2. I'm a troll now! by John+Jamieson · · Score: 0, Redundant

    My original(parent) post is currently marked Troll. My bad, I forgot the obligitory "This is not a troll, but" line. lol

    Seriously though, I have a little time in perl, and I rarely script, so I am lazy and tend to want to default to it.
    Does that experience mean I should default to perl though? My perl is readable (ya sure, everyone thinks that), but when I have to read some of the stuff other write... Perl gives the person the power to write unreadable(bad?)code.

    Anyway, If I were to start over, OR if I had to do a lot of scripting... I would endevor to master Python instead.

    If the fact that I am not proud that I still write the odd line in Perl makes me a troll, then I hope we have a lot more trolls in this world!

  3. Re:Java never really mattered, Taco? Ouch by HJED · · Score: 0, Redundant

    What does Java do that couldn't have been done better by another language that existed 11 years ago? Nothing. There fore it doesn't really matter.

    what can C++ or C do that can't be done in Java?
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