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eBay Australia Delays PayPal Change Indefinitely

Daehenoc points out news that eBay Australia has postponed their ban on all forms of payment other than PayPal. The ban had already been delayed once, but eBay Australia has now decided to simply wait for the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission to determine whether or not the move is acceptable. We discussed the beginnings of this story back in April.

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  1. Re:The ACCC is going to put on a show by timmarhy · · Score: 5, Informative
    err the cardboard box cartel thing resulted in a WIN for the ACCC and the biggest ever corperate fine handed out in australian history. pick another example. fuel prices are high due to factors well outside of the ACCC's ability to regulate - servo operators already operate on a razor thin margin of a few cents per litre, the real driving force is increased international demand and overseas oil cartels. so again, please try a different example.

    ACCC action has nothing to do with ebay stopping the trial, it's more likely the very public backlash they are feeling.

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  2. Re:Use Google Checkout instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unfortunately a lot of people assume that everyone on eBay takes PayPal and are shocked to discover that you don't, but PayPal is such a terrible system for both buyers and sellers I don't use it any more.

    eBay in Australia actually requires that you offer Paypal in your listings. The ACCC action only stopped eBay from disallowing almost all other methods of payments.

    And Google Checkout doesn't operate in Australia yet.

  3. Re:The ACCC is going to put on a show by mattjb0010 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Cardboard box cartel?

    Yep!

    Crazy Aussies ;)

    That we are.

  4. Re:The ACCC is going to put on a show by fabs64 · · Score: 2, Informative

    One of the perpetrators is currently facing criminal charges for lying to the investigation.

    But I take your point, pricks should have been sent to jail for the crime not for the technicality they committed while in the process.

  5. Only problem I had... by tristian_was_here · · Score: 2, Informative

    Only problem I had with Paypal it took forever to transfer money from my bank account... well 2 whole weeks.

  6. Re:Use Google Checkout instead by Bert64 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, i have had many bad experiences with paypal and corrupt sellers taking advantage of the flaws in their system to rip off purchasers, take a look at:
    http://www.ev4.org/wordpress/category/fastmemorymanscam/

    Then there's their "subscription" service, where a company can automatically bill you on a recurring system, there seems to be absolutely no way to see which subscriptions are active or how to cancel them. A corrupt seller can lie to you about cancelling the subscription and you have no idea if they lied or not until paypal charges you, and when you dispute it they simply ignore you.

    ebay also cancel your listing if you try to recover the cost of paypal charges in your listing, because the idea of an extra 5% or so to cover costs would encourage buyers to pay by other means.

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  7. ACCC? More Media Pressure by ejecta · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't really think they are that worried about the ACCC - when the ACCC released there draft ruling all they did was delay the changes a little, they were still going to be put in place in blatent defiance of the ACCC draft ruling and before the actual ruling was due to be released.

    What I don't think they bargained for was the media coverage on the front page of the Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and Telegragh which framed the issue as if eBay were scamming their own customers - the stories were quite blunt and less than flattering of eBay Australia.

    I think they cared a lot more about all the negative press and the SMH was throwing down the gauntlet pressuring the ACCC to become engaged prior to release of the final ruling - that's something no company wants. Angry media representatives do more damage that your average government pen pusher.

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  8. Re:GOOD! by ejecta · · Score: 4, Informative

    I know what you mean, as a seller it's really wonderful to be charged a listing fee, a gallery picture fee, a final value fee, a 2.4% paypal fee and then another $2 to get your money out of paypal.

    Not to mention you have to also use registered post otherwise you'll automatically lose any dispute and paypal will sweep your account for price+postage regardless of the validity of the buyers dispute - A favourite of dodgy buyers here is to claim it the item was not received, if you have an express post tracking id showing it delivered paypal will still find in favour of the buyer as they only accept registered post tracking.

    Result: You lose your item and the auction value + postage fees, even though you can prove it was delivered!

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  9. Re:The ACCC is going to put on a show by quenda · · Score: 2, Informative

    How is it every single petrol station, no matter which company they claim to be, all have identical prices?

    Where is that? Maybe they copy each other.
    Here in WA its certainly not true. That is prevented by the fuelwatch scheme:

    http://www.fuelwatch.wa.gov.au/