Cleaning is for suckers, just pour in some draino. It solves two problems at once: a) the food lift is clean, b) you won't be wasting anymore money on stupid products.;)
I would like to invest in 2x PicoPSU's but simply can't afford it at this stage... am just using a bogdy 40 watt psu out of a circa 2004 IBM Netvista.
Uses alot more power due to inefficency but I figure cutting down from a Athlon 2000XP to this will save a fair bit of juice considering it's on 24x7 365 days a year.
I've had a look at the Intel offerings but they're hard to lay your hands on over here (Australia) and from what I've read whilst the cpu is low power the northbridge can burn quite a bit of juice (although I could be wrong).
I agree completely! Right here I run two PC's first based on VIA PC2500E motherboard like the GPC which was on/. awhile ago and the second is the VIA MM/PC3500 which is essentially the same + PCI-Express x16 slot and HDTV.
They're not bad, the motherboard & onboard CPU costs less than most other plain motherboards for Intel/AMD.
Bottled water wouldn't help much though - two of our biggest selling water products are just sydney tap water put into a bottle and branded by Coke with sexy advertising.
By and large Sydney hasn't fallen that much for the bottled water craze, we're big fans of pouring tap water in a bottle and placing it in the fridge.
I read something awhile ago which concluded that most sales here come from people who are out and have forgotten to bring a drink/are hot and want a cold drink but don't want softdrink/beer.
That being said, I believe the bottled water industry still makes several hundred million a year.
I'm pretty sure there a people who would be legally classified as 'retarded' who could come up with this. It's like a door that has a handle or a flush piece of metal but no signs - it's rather obvious you pull & push - but I guess this judge, the patent office & the patent holder fall into the subgroup which requires the PULL & PUSH signs.
I wasn't referring to the arms research, I was referring to the deployed units which are roughly 1 cubic metre in size which chemically process waste to water.
But anyhoo, I actually did mention a few places so you can't say " I keep hearing that its being done yet no one can name names because it is not being done".
If you aren't sure about what's involved have a read of this, it's a 4 year old report, so there are newer technologies available, but it does give a good overview of what's in use here & what the challenges are: http://www.atse.org.au/index.php?sectionid=597
Here's some towns that are doing blackwater re-use: - Glouster - Toowoomba - Tamworth (*cancelled due to NIMBYs)
I've also read about a high profile plant in South Africa which has been doing reclamation from sewage for some time.
Technology is no longer a barrier - only peoples attitudes. People don't seem to understand we can do the same, if not better job, that nature does in a smaller time frame in a smaller space through numerous methods including biological denitrification, preozonation, coagulation/flocculation, dissolved air flotation/sand filtration, ozonation and biological activated carbon treatment.
It's pretty straight forward stuff really, but people still picture a floating turd.
Yes, several country towns in Australia, the US Army does it.
They were going to implement it on a widescale in one of Australia's largest regional centres too until the NIMBY crowd got involved.
It's proven technology - those same features that make it okay to pump raw sewage into the ocean can be replicated. It's basically just an extension of the technology which allows the fetid dam water to be used as drinking water.
Here's an interesting point for you to consider aswell - back in 01/02 when everyone was scared of the terrorist in the closet studies were done on the lethality of an attack against out water system (it is impossible to physically secure the catchment areas btw). It found that even if one could lay there hands on enough anthrax or various other bioweapons/viral materials to lift the ppm past the lethal point the water coming out the end, with no process changes, would still be fit for human consumption.
Processing human urine & turd isn't that hard. I think they're planning on doing it on the next shuttle-thiny too aren't they? The Orion? I remember reading something about requireing urine donation to reprocess into water.
Living in Australia where my rights have been affected by a retarded law similiar to this I can say law or no law the kids will see the porno.
The other day I overheard two thirteen year olds discussing the use of an international proxy to evade the ISP level blocking of their scat exploration. From what I overheard, apparently they think scat is funny. They didn't sound like potential rapists.
Heck, when I was a kid I saw the evil porno, I now have a family and two kids - if anything seeing the evil porno seemed to have helped versus these upstart white collar kids who are off embezzeling money & snorting drugs.
Porno or not, quality parenting or not, it's the values that are instilled in a child that matters.
If both parents and society fail to instil values into a youth then the youth is like a boat without a rudder, they may get where they are going but likely they will drift into trouble along the way.
I would totally mod up your responses in this conversation if doing so wouldn't blast my half of the discussion away.
I don't think any of our leaders, anywhere in the western world, are going to have the chops to stand up to the corporations either as they are all massively funded by them through donations, more so in the USA it seems.
Income tax is tax on income. The medicare levy is a medicare levy, you can CHOOSE not to pay by getting your own healthcare.
It idea is; if you're earning millions your expected to pay your way if you're choosing to use the system to support yourself. I don't know anyone who has a problem with this as those that don't want to pay obtain their own healthcare, I happily pay it knowing I get great healthcare.
We can choose our doctors and if you're not happy you have the choice to also obtain a second opinion or go to a completely different hospital. If you break your leg you can also choose where you go to get it fixed.
Dude, it was a vital service joke based on the above posters note that power is a vital service and should not be privatised much like roads, healthcare, schools, libraries, water, etc.
The discussion just flowed from their, and sometimes, lets face it, you just gotta go with the discussion.
Hmm, not Australian I gather by the lack of background to the statement?
Low unemployment is merely a numbers game, when the government has redefined the definition of someone who is seeking work to exclude some of those who are actually still seeking work & unemployed you can't really make such a claim - you're comparing the first bar on a bar graph to blank space.
The massive mining & resources sector boom had more to do with the previous government and the rise of China & India than the economic management of Howard's Government.
They've actually left us a legacy of high inflation and slow growth - quite the problem when the reserve's bank only inflation control is to increase interest rates which is well known to decrease growth - but to decrease already slow growth would be to encourage recession.
Half of these problems and many others all stem back to history were we allowed corporations to have the same rights as a person. If we still limited them to their charter like in the 1800s I think a lot of these problems wouldn't occurr. You'd also have no problem of people hiding behind the corporate veil.
I often wonder if we're simply heading towards the collapse of our lifestyle - we've designed the monetary system so that it will collapse once debt levels plateau leaving not enough money in existence to pay back all the debt created. We're giving corporations the right to starve us off our own land. We've given our governments the power to instil fear in us, as opposed to them fearing the people.
Heck, Australian's were nearly banned from protesting period when the pope was here. A law was passed banning being "annoying" literally. If you "annoyed" someone you could be arrested. Thankfully it was challenged and struck out but it was still illegal to "inconvienence" a pilgrim!
Although John Howard's tenure saw RIAA/MPAA favourable laws implemented in Australia. Thankfully the senate had sense to allow us to legally use iPods, until this time any Australian who owned an iPod and copied their own purchased CD to their own purchased iPod was breaking the law and could be fined/imprisoned and Howard was happy for that to continue!
I'm not sure you'd really want him, although he was very anti-union so maybe that would help you out.
DeSal may happen but when the water runs out tomorrow, DeSal isn't going to be ready 2 hours later. You've got to build the plant & undergroud pipelines to connect it up.
Sydney's DeSal plant process of tendering started back in 2007, sure if we ran out of water it'ld be sped up remarkably but digging the underground tunnels can't be accelerated much and they (from memory) took 3 months.
I don't think a city without water would be in very good economic health after that sort of time, let alone the people living in it.
It's partly because people are ignorant and refuse to have recycled water in their drinking water (forgetting that pumping sewage out to sea means it evaporates and rains down into dams which then is consumed, or sewage pumped into rivers which runs into dams which is then consumed).
It's partly because no politican wants to spend the politcal capital to commit to a third major dam (sounds very much like no one wanting to commit to a third airport for Sydney!).
It's also partly because people were discouraged from installing water tanks, so trillions of litres have been wasted that could have been collected.
It's also because we don't recycle storm water - fresh rain water that's fallen simply goes out to sea rather than being re-routed into dams.
Yet we're going to spend billions on poorly designed De-Sal plants we don't need in VIC & NSW.
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Sadly another case of greed over-ruling common sense.
Because handball is already a defined sport and "football" is a ball game with major plays involving the kicking foot, so foot+ball = football.
You're forgetting Australia & New Zealand, mate.
Cleaning is for suckers, just pour in some draino. It solves two problems at once: a) the food lift is clean, b) you won't be wasting anymore money on stupid products. ;)
The idea of a netbook where you can switch between an internal & external screen solution and have stylus/touch screen capabilities already exists.
http://www.asi.com.au/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=12bFjcDUlLQ%3D&tabid=182
I have one of these, it's not bad for what it's designed for,
I'd say 60-70% of parents are realistic about threats, the main problem is folks in power who don't have kids thinking they know whats best.
The other 30-40% of parents make me think that perhaps a 'breeding licence' wouldn't be a bad idea.
And that's coming from a parent.
I'm not burning up in the atmosphere for anyone thank you very much.
I'd be even more concerned that there might be folks who think it's a good idea.
Worse: there might be folks in power who think it's a good idea.
The state has no interest in banning cigarettes as the tax dollars they earn on sales are huge.
(Well, here anyway - same with poker machines)
I would like to invest in 2x PicoPSU's but simply can't afford it at this stage... am just using a bogdy 40 watt psu out of a circa 2004 IBM Netvista.
Uses alot more power due to inefficency but I figure cutting down from a Athlon 2000XP to this will save a fair bit of juice considering it's on 24x7 365 days a year.
I've had a look at the Intel offerings but they're hard to lay your hands on over here (Australia) and from what I've read whilst the cpu is low power the northbridge can burn quite a bit of juice (although I could be wrong).
I agree completely! Right here I run two PC's first based on VIA PC2500E motherboard like the GPC which was on /. awhile ago and the second is the VIA MM/PC3500 which is essentially the same + PCI-Express x16 slot and HDTV.
They're not bad, the motherboard & onboard CPU costs less than most other plain motherboards for Intel/AMD.
Uhm, most of the population.
Bottled water wouldn't help much though - two of our biggest selling water products are just sydney tap water put into a bottle and branded by Coke with sexy advertising.
By and large Sydney hasn't fallen that much for the bottled water craze, we're big fans of pouring tap water in a bottle and placing it in the fridge.
I read something awhile ago which concluded that most sales here come from people who are out and have forgotten to bring a drink/are hot and want a cold drink but don't want softdrink/beer.
That being said, I believe the bottled water industry still makes several hundred million a year.
I don't know how this passed the obvious test.
Controller + Plug in rumble pack = annoying.
Solution = combine.
I'm pretty sure there a people who would be legally classified as 'retarded' who could come up with this. It's like a door that has a handle or a flush piece of metal but no signs - it's rather obvious you pull & push - but I guess this judge, the patent office & the patent holder fall into the subgroup which requires the PULL & PUSH signs.
I wasn't referring to the arms research, I was referring to the deployed units which are roughly 1 cubic metre in size which chemically process waste to water.
But anyhoo, I actually did mention a few places so you can't say " I keep hearing that its being done yet no one can name names because it is not being done".
If you aren't sure about what's involved have a read of this, it's a 4 year old report, so there are newer technologies available, but it does give a good overview of what's in use here & what the challenges are: http://www.atse.org.au/index.php?sectionid=597
Here's some towns that are doing blackwater re-use:
- Glouster
- Toowoomba
- Tamworth (*cancelled due to NIMBYs)
I've also read about a high profile plant in South Africa which has been doing reclamation from sewage for some time.
Technology is no longer a barrier - only peoples attitudes. People don't seem to understand we can do the same, if not better job, that nature does in a smaller time frame in a smaller space through numerous methods including biological denitrification, preozonation, coagulation/flocculation, dissolved air flotation/sand filtration, ozonation and biological activated carbon treatment.
It's pretty straight forward stuff really, but people still picture a floating turd.
Yes, several country towns in Australia, the US Army does it.
They were going to implement it on a widescale in one of Australia's largest regional centres too until the NIMBY crowd got involved.
It's proven technology - those same features that make it okay to pump raw sewage into the ocean can be replicated. It's basically just an extension of the technology which allows the fetid dam water to be used as drinking water.
Here's an interesting point for you to consider aswell - back in 01/02 when everyone was scared of the terrorist in the closet studies were done on the lethality of an attack against out water system (it is impossible to physically secure the catchment areas btw). It found that even if one could lay there hands on enough anthrax or various other bioweapons/viral materials to lift the ppm past the lethal point the water coming out the end, with no process changes, would still be fit for human consumption.
Processing human urine & turd isn't that hard. I think they're planning on doing it on the next shuttle-thiny too aren't they? The Orion? I remember reading something about requireing urine donation to reprocess into water.
Living in Australia where my rights have been affected by a retarded law similiar to this I can say law or no law the kids will see the porno.
The other day I overheard two thirteen year olds discussing the use of an international proxy to evade the ISP level blocking of their scat exploration. From what I overheard, apparently they think scat is funny. They didn't sound like potential rapists.
Heck, when I was a kid I saw the evil porno, I now have a family and two kids - if anything seeing the evil porno seemed to have helped versus these upstart white collar kids who are off embezzeling money & snorting drugs.
Porno or not, quality parenting or not, it's the values that are instilled in a child that matters.
If both parents and society fail to instil values into a youth then the youth is like a boat without a rudder, they may get where they are going but likely they will drift into trouble along the way.
I would totally mod up your responses in this conversation if doing so wouldn't blast my half of the discussion away.
I don't think any of our leaders, anywhere in the western world, are going to have the chops to stand up to the corporations either as they are all massively funded by them through donations, more so in the USA it seems.
So your solution would be what?
Scrap governments and turn the country into tiny fiefdoms of tyrannical control under the guise of converting to anarchism for the people?
I'm sure that will improve healthcare.
Income tax is tax on income. The medicare levy is a medicare levy, you can CHOOSE not to pay by getting your own healthcare.
It idea is; if you're earning millions your expected to pay your way if you're choosing to use the system to support yourself. I don't know anyone who has a problem with this as those that don't want to pay obtain their own healthcare, I happily pay it knowing I get great healthcare.
We can choose our doctors and if you're not happy you have the choice to also obtain a second opinion or go to a completely different hospital. If you break your leg you can also choose where you go to get it fixed.
Dude, it was a vital service joke based on the above posters note that power is a vital service and should not be privatised much like roads, healthcare, schools, libraries, water, etc.
The discussion just flowed from their, and sometimes, lets face it, you just gotta go with the discussion.
Hmm, not Australian I gather by the lack of background to the statement?
Low unemployment is merely a numbers game, when the government has redefined the definition of someone who is seeking work to exclude some of those who are actually still seeking work & unemployed you can't really make such a claim - you're comparing the first bar on a bar graph to blank space.
The massive mining & resources sector boom had more to do with the previous government and the rise of China & India than the economic management of Howard's Government.
They've actually left us a legacy of high inflation and slow growth - quite the problem when the reserve's bank only inflation control is to increase interest rates which is well known to decrease growth - but to decrease already slow growth would be to encourage recession.
Half of these problems and many others all stem back to history were we allowed corporations to have the same rights as a person. If we still limited them to their charter like in the 1800s I think a lot of these problems wouldn't occurr. You'd also have no problem of people hiding behind the corporate veil.
I often wonder if we're simply heading towards the collapse of our lifestyle - we've designed the monetary system so that it will collapse once debt levels plateau leaving not enough money in existence to pay back all the debt created. We're giving corporations the right to starve us off our own land. We've given our governments the power to instil fear in us, as opposed to them fearing the people.
Heck, Australian's were nearly banned from protesting period when the pope was here. A law was passed banning being "annoying" literally. If you "annoyed" someone you could be arrested. Thankfully it was challenged and struck out but it was still illegal to "inconvienence" a pilgrim!
ounds like a 'great' prime minister.
Although John Howard's tenure saw RIAA/MPAA favourable laws implemented in Australia. Thankfully the senate had sense to allow us to legally use iPods, until this time any Australian who owned an iPod and copied their own purchased CD to their own purchased iPod was breaking the law and could be fined/imprisoned and Howard was happy for that to continue!
I'm not sure you'd really want him, although he was very anti-union so maybe that would help you out.
DeSal may happen but when the water runs out tomorrow, DeSal isn't going to be ready 2 hours later. You've got to build the plant & undergroud pipelines to connect it up.
Sydney's DeSal plant process of tendering started back in 2007, sure if we ran out of water it'ld be sped up remarkably but digging the underground tunnels can't be accelerated much and they (from memory) took 3 months.
I don't think a city without water would be in very good economic health after that sort of time, let alone the people living in it.
It's not just one cause sadly.
It's partly because people are ignorant and refuse to have recycled water in their drinking water (forgetting that pumping sewage out to sea means it evaporates and rains down into dams which then is consumed, or sewage pumped into rivers which runs into dams which is then consumed).
It's partly because no politican wants to spend the politcal capital to commit to a third major dam (sounds very much like no one wanting to commit to a third airport for Sydney!).
It's also partly because people were discouraged from installing water tanks, so trillions of litres have been wasted that could have been collected.
It's also because we don't recycle storm water - fresh rain water that's fallen simply goes out to sea rather than being re-routed into dams.
Yet we're going to spend billions on poorly designed De-Sal plants we don't need in VIC & NSW.