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Text-Messaging Behind the Wheel

theodp writes "TIME interviews 21-year-old Taylor Leming, creator of the 600-member Facebook group I Text Message People While Driving and I Haven't Crashed Yet! While Alaska and Louisiana just became the latest states to pass laws banning text-messaging behind the wheel, Virginia resident Leming is still happily texting away while driving despite some near-accidents. 'Sometimes it just seems easier to text 'Be there in 5' instead of calling,' explains Taylor."

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  1. Darwin by j_sp_r · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is it important to text that you'll be there in 5 minutes anyway? You can also wait 5 minutes.

    And I hope when he crashes and kills himself he doesn't take others with him. Driving and calling (even hands free), texting, or doing anything else (tuning the radio, setting up your nav system) for that matter is just dangerous.

    1. Re:Darwin by cyberwench · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And yet, barely anyone gives a second thought to tuning their radio while driving or talking to a passenger while driving - both things that are shown to create just as much of a distraction.

      I don't think there's anyone out there who never ever deals with distractions while driving. Having a sandwich, drinking something, changing tracks on a CD, driving while not having enough sleep... everyone does it on one level or another. All of it is dangerous, but the only thing that seems to get people keyed up is cell phone use. Can anyone explain to me why?

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    2. Re:Darwin by Free+the+Cowards · · Score: 5, Insightful

      People who use their phones while driving don't grasp how dangerous it is.

      I'll tune my radio on the road, but only when I'm in a clear patch when nothing is happening at the moment. I also take as little time as possible to do so; all of my favorite stations are programmed into buttons, so it just takes a moment, and doesn't take much attention.

      The same is true with my passengers. When the driving gets tough, I will stop talking to them, often in mid-sentence.

      But people who use cell phones on the road don't seem to understand these ideas. They will frequently place the cell phone first, driving second. They won't interrupt their conversation for a difficult section of driving, they won't try to minimize their conversation, and to compound it all they frequently have only one hand free for actual driving, which means less steering control and poor or nonexistent use of turn signals.

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    3. Re:Darwin by Stickerboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      >And yet, barely anyone gives a second thought to tuning their radio while driving or talking to a passenger while driving - both things that are shown to create just as much of a distraction.

      I don't think there's anyone out there who never ever deals with distractions while driving. Having a sandwich, drinking something, changing tracks on a CD, driving while not having enough sleep... everyone does it on one level or another. All of it is dangerous, but the only thing that seems to get people keyed up is cell phone use. Can anyone explain to me why?

      Mostly because it's the bigger idiots that try to text message while driving. There seems to be a tiered system of stupidity while driving. On one level there's the eating a sandwich or sucking on a soda pop or leaning over to tune the radio. On a higher level of idiocy, there's the people reading a newspaper, doing makeup, driving without your seatbelt, and texting or calling on a cell phone.

      Unlike talking to a passenger, who should have a nominal idea of what's going on in traffic, the person on the other end of a call has no sense of when they should shut up or avoid bringing up issues requiring heavy thought. I have no problem with someone making an essential short call when it's safe to say, "Hey Dave, the meeting is canceled today. See you", and then hanging up. It's just that most people who I actually see talking on their cellphones in traffic aren't that bright, and continue to natter on forever while they're swerving and stomping on their brakes.

      The title of the Facebook group says it all about the people who text message while driving. "Haven't died, yet!" Congratulations... you win the dumb luck award? Soon to turn into another Award?

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    4. Re:Darwin by Drakonik · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because to use your cell-phone for texting, you must look AWAY FROM THE ROAD and at a small screen to read texts.

      When you're talking to a passenger, yeah, you're distracted, but talking and listening does not require that you take your eyes off the road. Nor does adjusting the radio, once you're used to using it.

    5. Re:Darwin by Gewalt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      6 billion years didn't seem like a week either.

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    6. Re:Darwin by Free+the+Cowards · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You know what else is dangerous? Driving.

      I'm not saying that I'm safe while other people are not. I'm saying that there are things you can do to limit your distraction and reduce the danger of the activity. The problem is that people who talk on cell phones while driving by and large do not do these things. Some of them do, and are thereby reasonably safe, and I have no problem with them.

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    7. Re:Darwin by Fjandr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Phone talkers who only phone while on straightaways and only press one button to do it (speed dial) can make exactly the same argument. Guess what? It's still dangerous. Changing the radio station while driving is dangerous. Period.

      Talking on the phone engages your attention for a continuous period of time. A half-second to push a button != several minutes of distraction. Not saying the momentary distraction is not dangerous, but it does not even come close to approaching the level of danger that talking on the phone while driving presents.

      Text messaging is even worse though, since it requires the concentration to produce the text mentally (much more thought intensive than speaking naturally) and some form of error correction (or worse, watching your phone constantly as you enter text). Sadly, these people don't always have one-party crashes. If they only killed themselves in car crashes, I'd be fine with it.

  2. Idiot by jrothwell97 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    despite some near-accidents

    Enough said.

    Also, just because someone hasn't had an accident in the past, it doesn't mean they won't have an accident in the future.

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    1. Re:Idiot by iPodUser · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. If they've already had near accidents then it's just a matter of time until something bad happens. And so help me if they crash into me...

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    2. Re:Idiot by jrothwell97 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But surely if she considers it irresponsible, she shouldn't do it, EVEN if it is not specifically illegal?

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  3. Kids these days by iPodUser · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can't believe these people! What's so "fun" about text messages? Why the aversion to real communication? I'd much rather talk to someone than exchange emoticons while risking the lives of those on the road around me.

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  4. Moron by smolloy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I hope her first accident, the one that teaches her how dumb and selfish this is, only injures/kills her and no one else.

    I also hope her insurance company reads time.com.

    1. Re:Moron by owlstead · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You learn or you die, you cannot combine the two. Anyway, I hope she crashes and just seriously damages the car, with the insurance company not paying out. There is no reason to wish her harm just because she (at 21 years old) makes some stupid mistakes.

  5. Great Idea... by deadmongrel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am starting another group:
      "I am drunk While Driving and I Haven't Crashed Yet!"

    It sucks that we have to make laws to compensate for commonsense.

  6. Stop killing people by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've lost two people in pointless car crashes.

    Please use your goddamn head and pay attention to the goddamn road.

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  7. Re:Why such a specific law? by trolltalk.com · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why not simply have a law where you must drive with "due care and attention".

    Too vague ... one person's "due care and attention" is anothers recklessness.

    Besides, banning texting for the driver while on a highway is a no-brainer ... because obviously people with no brains think they can do it "despite a few near-accidents."

    I finally bought a bluetooth earpiece when the laws changed, even though my cell already has speaker-phone capability, so it already was "hands-free"; after a couple of weeks, I now wish I had bought it sooner. (Hint - buy a good-quality one with noise and echo cancellation - you don't want to sound like you're talking in a garbage can).

  8. Hey Taylor, out of the gene pool! by Max+von+H. · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I nearly got killed a few years ago by a "distracted" driver who was happily chatting on his cell phone while running a traffic light. It took me over a year to recover and be able to work again and I'll feel the secondary effects of this accident for the rest of my life (definitely NOT a nice thing, trust me).

    In most European countries, using a cell phone while driving is considered impaired driving and you basically face the same consequences as if you were drunk in case of an accident, meaning your insurance will happily run away from you and you'll be declared responsible for the accident even if it's not initially your fault.

    I'm looking forward to the day it'll be the same here in Ontario as a lot of people don't seem to be able to distract themselves from their crackberries while driving. Maybe a $1000 ticket and a license suspension will teach them a lesson before they get to injure or kill someone.

    I for one hope this moron eliminates himself from the human gene pool without injuring or killing someone first.

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  9. Re:Cognitive load by camperdave · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem isn't the cell phone. It isn't the radio. It's the fact that the majority of driving does not require a lot of concentration. It has a low cognitive load. Thus drivers have a lot of free attention that needs to be channeled into something: listening to the radio, talking on the phone, etc. Otherwise they get bored and sleepy. That's why a lot of highways have rumble strips on along the side.

    The problem occurs when driving suddenly requires a lot more concentration/attention than we have to give it. If we can't shift mental gears fast enough to act to avoid a situation, we crash.

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