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40 Years After Carterphone Ended AT&T Equipment Monopoly
fm6 writes "Wednesday was the 40th anniversary of the Carterfone Decision which brought to an end AT&T's monopoly on telephone terminal equipment. Ars Technica has an opinionated but informative backgrounder on this landmark, which pretty much created the telecommunications world as we currently know it."
We don't care. We don't have to...
Now if only they would get rid of all those dial up lines for internet access in rural areas.
It's really amazing that phone companies still don't have mandatory minimal access levels for net access outside major metropolitan areas.
It's getting better, but oh so slow. And in those areas where there is little or no competition 28.8 is still the standard.
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that AT&T wasn't the president's best friend, like it is now.
500 sets.
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As they work with the telco electricy in case the mains goes out. I've seen the huge batteries they use and I doubt they would discharge quickly. Cordless phones are obviously useless.
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Colbert explains how the old AT&T re-grouped/formed.
(Is it really that bad? All Baby Bells are back together?)
It took 40 years for the change in case.
it took till just recently to get VOIP.
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Carterphone had a device where the handset sat in the cradle of their device, it worked in a similar manner to the later acoustically coupled modems, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_coupler
So there was no electrical connection (coupling) between the Carter device and the phone. The device had a cradle that the handset sat in, coupling the mic and the speaker. The AT&T lawyers said, well, your device is touching our handset. So Carter lifted the handset an inch out of the coupler, and said, is this too close? The AT&T lawyer said yes. So Carter carried his device across the room and said is this too close? The lawyer said no. Then Carter moved closer and closer, and AT&T's defense crumbled.
Don't you mean 'pretty much destroyed the industry and its benign monopolistic benefactor and made it the consumer oppressed shambles we have today' instead?
If telephone company regulation turned out so badly, why do only a quarter of slashdotters think it's the most irritating industry there is?
But the YouTube link I found on Google says "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation". So now we have Video Cops instead of Phone Cops.
We can't even talk about monopolies of the past due to monopolies of the present.
Yeah, life was so much better back when I was paying $1/minute to call another state. I hate it that I can call countries around the globe for less than 2% of that today.
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Your history is a little off. First off, AT&T did step out of line, and repeatedly. RTFA.
Second, AT&T chose to break up. OK, technically, they were being litigated by the anti-trust cops, but they'd managed to drag it out for 8 years. At which time, the White House was inhabited by Ronald Reagan, not exactly a fiend for fighting big business.
But AT&T's management decided that a breakup, if done on their terms, would turn into a bonanza. The anti-trust people wanted them to get out of the hardware business. Instead, they got to keep their hardware business and spin off their local operating companies instead. This voided the 1956 consent decreee (imposed on them by another anti-business radical, Eisenhower) that limited their businesses to "common carrier" stuff. This allowed them to launch a number of initiatives based on all that technology they were now free to apply commercially. A prime example: UNIX.
Alas they never managed to make much money off of UNIX, or any of the other enterprises they started. Technology isn't worth much if you have no business sense.
One more quibble, this time with your definition of "politically motivated". The breakup was driven by justice department civil servants, and actually happened under a pro-business administration. If there was politics involved it was the make the breakup more like the one AT&T wanted.
Clumsy wording, no punch. What was wrong with the one I submitted, "Happy Cartfone Day"? And why do editors have time to change headlines but not the time to make sure submissions actually make sense?
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In exchange for getting to use public right-of-way without cost.
If they get to selectively choose who they serve, let them negotiate land rights across all the private property, everywhere they go.
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http://www.tvacres.com/comm_ernestine.htm
Some key implications of the Carterfone decision on Bell Labs were overlooked by this article. As it mentioned, the same consent degree that previously granted AT&T its network monopoly also prevented it from commercializing its other activities. It was largely because of this limitation that a certain operating system developed at AT&T's Bell Labs in those days was not exploited commercially, but was instead openly passed around academia like a joint at a pot party. Only some time after Carterfone, as AT&T started to shake off that consent decree and start commercializing the work of Bell Labs, did it start to exercise its copyrights to that OS, and by that time the Berkeley distro had already been hatched, and unix was out of the barn. In other words: *BSD, Linux, and OS X ironically owe their existence to the pre-Carterfone AT&T monopoly. They probably would not have come into being if that decision had been made earlier, because Unix would have been treated as something to be commercialized (or at least denied to the public) from the beginning.
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So I guess we haven't gone that far.
You have only one entity to blame for the lack of choice when it comes to phone services - the government. If AT&T had a monopoly, it was only kept alive by government restrictions on the creation of competing lines. No doubt such legislation was bought and paid for by the company, but only the government is capable of applying the force necessary to keep competition from existing. As long as government manipulation of the economy is possible, so are monopolies capable of being indefinitely sustained.
You of course already know how a monopoly is broken because it happens so frequently. Y'know, cuz like... it's always in the news that our government breaks monothic companies like Microsoft or Halliburton into pieces to foster competition, create free markets, and promote options for the consumer.
Regardless, here is a handy chart to illustrate how Ma Bell was broken up in '84 and what has happened since. Stephen Colbert broke it down nicely here, although that link has been removed do to copyright claims by Viacom, one of our six global media conglomerates.
Thank goodness you can still watch it in Canada.
Of all the AT&T derivatives... we know Qwest didn't spy on us. So that's one.
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Telecommunications under the old AT&T was such a primitive set of technologies that it hadn't changed appreciably from a consumer viewpoint in 80 years.
Yes, it was reliable, yes, the service guy came out when he said he would, but we were paying $20/month plus we paid for each extension, plus we couldn't have our own phone, so we paid $1/month for a 2nd phone. For 20 years. This is in 1960 dollars. That's like paying $100 per month for a phone today.
Oh, and long distance was dollars per minutes, lousy quality. It was so expensive, that you played games with "person to person" long distance when you wanted to let people know you'd arrived. "I'll call and if I ask for 'Thelma', everything is fine, if I ask for 'Louise', it means the car broke down and you should accept the call".
Since the breakup, phone costs went down, the internet was allowed to get started because nobody could charge you $400/month for a modem line. All kinds of innovative devices are available, and now I have fiber to my house. The communications world is infinitely better off from the consumer's viewpoint than it was 20-30 years ago. I mean, it isn't even close. From all your comments, I have to assume that you worked for the old phone company? I can appreciate that it was a great place to work, but it came at a very high cost to society.
You were mistaken. Which is odd, since memory shouldn't be a problem for you
I just got the news that MetroPCS is pretty much allowing full consumer choice on access devices.
I'm so glad they're building out in my city, because Verizon, at&t and Sprint all pretty much suck because they still charge top dollar for net access on their networks.
Because that's all I want. With the net access I can do the things I need to do.
"this landmark, which pretty much created the telecommunications world as we currently know it."
telecommunications of the USA don't you mean?
not everyone in the world has to suffer the USAs ridiculous telecom situation.
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TFA (corerctly" has "Wednesday was the 40th anniversary of the Carterfone Decision..."
Well done Timothy. All you had to do was cut and paste, but you had to try to type.
and yet I'm strangely intrigued...
Al Gore sues Mcdonalds, because he not only invented the internet, but wifi and "premium coffee" too.
I remember way back when we were renting our phones, that there was a 3rd yellow wire used to ring the phone, later only 2 wire were needed (red/green). The phone company was able to determine if you had added an illegal phone by measuring the ring current. So whenever I added another phone I would make sure not to connect the yellow ringer wire, or disconnect the ringer somehow. They never found out so it musta have worked. I have always had a phone in every room. At that time Phone Hacking was Real BIG.
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FTFA: Within a few years of the FCC's Carterfone decision, America had become a motley world of funny receivers, slick switch boxes, and rickety answering machines. More importantly, consumers quickly embraced the "modulate/demodulate" device, otherwise known as the telephone modem.
Really? Because in the world that I've actually lived my life in, "consumers" (meaning the general public, and not just B2B niche markets) didn't even have computers in their homes, much less modems to connect them to the phone network with, until the late 1970s, and it was still a tiny majority of households that were 'online' until the mid-1990s brought us The Internet to replace proprietary services like CompuServe and "a local 15-year-old geek's one-line BBS running on a warez copy of Telegard".
If Ars Technica's thesis is that the Carter[f|ph]one decision changed everything, it's perhaps a bit dishonest to gloss over the fact that it didn't change much until twenty-five years later.
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