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Researchers Modify T-Cells, Make Them HIV Resistant

DieNadel writes to share that naturally occurring proteins called "zinc fingers" are being used in a new approach to AIDS treatment. Using modified T-Cells with the zinc fingers, researchers at the Pennsylvania School of Medicine have shown a reduction in viral load in mice. "'By inducing mutations in the CCR5 gene using zinc finger proteins, we've reduced the expression of CCR5 surface proteins on T cells, which is necessary for the AIDS virus to enter these immune system cells,' explains first author Elena Perez, MD, PhD, Assistant Professor of Pediatrics at Penn. 'This approach stops the AIDS virus from entering the T cells because it now has an introduced error into the CCR5 gene.'"

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  1. Zinc you say? by nekdut · · Score: 3, Funny

    Aren't we having a zinc shortage? Get it from these fingers!!

    1. Re:Zinc you say? by tsotha · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I knew all those old pennies would come in handy for something.

  2. OMGZombies! by gorckat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh wait...T-cells. I thought it said T-Virus.

    1. Re:OMGZombies! by neokushan · · Score: 2, Funny

      You're probably American, but you might be glad to know that there's a place in England where people could quite literally say "t' t-cells attack t' virus". Not quite what you're looking for, but close enough!

      Now, put t' kettle on!

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    2. Re:OMGZombies! by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah yes but we don't pronounce it T just t' so its easy to tell the difference.

  3. Re:So what? by Microlith · · Score: 3, Funny

    They need to be good libs


    As opposed to what, being a good "con" and doing what?

    I would like some background to what I can only parse as a retarded attempt to politicize with a statement that must've taken a whole 5 braincells to parrot.

  4. Re:So what? by Piranhaa · · Score: 2, Interesting

    These guys claim we have 20-30 years at the current rare we're using Zinc. It's the 23rd most abundant element in the earth's crust. I don't see this being an issue right now (2011), but will inevitably be one

  5. law of unintended consequences... by conspirator57 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    what *else* do these surface proteins on the T cell do?

    maybe there is something those altered structures do that we will miss when they stop performing their function...

    not everything in the body is superfluous like the appendix or wisdom teeth.

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    1. Re:law of unintended consequences... by troybob · · Score: 5, Funny

      OMG you had better try to get in touch with these researchers, because this probably did not occur to them at all!

    2. Re:law of unintended consequences... by Gat0r30y · · Score: 4, Informative
      FTFA -

      Some people are born with a mutation on their CCR5 gene and therefore do not have a working CCR5 receptor on the surface of their T cells. These rare individuals are immune to HIV infection and seemingly are not affected by the non-functional CCR5 protein. The zinc finger approach aims to mimic this natural immunity.

      It would appear that these surface proteins are "superfluous", or at least not really necessary.

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    3. Re:law of unintended consequences... by MrMr · · Score: 4, Informative

      After having worked in the pharmaceutical industry for about 12 years I can only say: You'd be amazed.
      T-cells are part of the immune system, and perhaps you remember this recent infamous TGN1412 experiment involving T-Cells

    4. Re:law of unintended consequences... by wizardforce · · Score: 3, Insightful

      whatever function they have, it's probably not as important as not dying of AIDS

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    5. Re:law of unintended consequences... by digitrev · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It would appear that way. That doesn't mean they are superfluous. This needs years of research and long term trials before this will be marketable. When you're fucking with the immune system, you better be goddamn sure you're not fucking with the wrong thing.

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    6. Re:law of unintended consequences... by swid27 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I didn't RTFA, but I'm guessing they're referring to CCR5-delta32. While somewhat rare overall, it's most common in people of Northern European descent. The good news: increased HIV and smallpox resistance. The bad news: decreased overall T cell function and West Nile resistance.

    7. Re:law of unintended consequences... by RDW · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, that's it. The article abstract is a lot more intelligible than the press release:

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18587387

      They're using Zinc Finger Nucleases:

      http://www.zincfingers.org/scientific-background.htm

      to target and disrupt the CCR5 gene.

    8. Re:law of unintended consequences... by DarkOx · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, I am no AIDS expert but from what I understand is HIV does not really kill anybody. AIDS the resulting condition of HIV, is Auto Immune Difficency Sydrome. Basically you immune system stops working and all the other little virus out there take over start to take over all your other cells and with nothing to stop them; that kills you.

      So if you screw-up someones immune system in the name of HIV proofing and that causes it to not work then they will have AIDS anyway even if you do manage to kill off the HIV infection. So yea if it turns out these things are "important" you might destroy the immune system faster then HIV would have.

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    9. Re:law of unintended consequences... by PCM2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      whatever function they have, it's probably not as important as not dying of AIDS

      Upon what data do you base that assumption? Is not dying of AIDS more important than not dying in screaming agony?

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    10. Re:law of unintended consequences... by wizardforce · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Upon what data do you base that assumption?

      considering the kind of death that is in store for someone who is severely immuno-compromised, the adverse effects from this treatment would need to be pretty bad to be considered worse. that and there isn't any convincing evidence to my knowledge that this method is any worse than doing nothing to mitigate the effects of an HIV infection which doesn't mean that there can't be any that we don't know about, it means that we would need more testing- in any case, dismissing this out of hand before determining its effectiveness/safety relative to other treatments is foolish at best.

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    11. Re:law of unintended consequences... by Fred_A · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, not zombies, corpses.

      So... pre-zombies?

      We scientific types prefer to call them zombie precursors.

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    12. Re:law of unintended consequences... by phagstrom · · Score: 2, Funny

      You not only need to be sure, you need to be HIV-positive...

    13. Re:law of unintended consequences... by Taleron · · Score: 2, Funny

      Besides, it's never lupus.

  6. Barclay's Protomorphosis Syndrome by geekmansworld · · Score: 4, Funny

    Haven't we learned not to modify T-Cells already?

  7. Re:So what? by arthurpaliden · · Score: 5, Funny

    The world is going to end in 2012 anyway so why worry.

  8. Thats sick by Gat0r30y · · Score: 2, Funny

    sorry. I had to.

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  9. This is probably good news by Whuffo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    HIV is a polymorphic virus - it changes its "shape" often, making vaccines difficult / impossible to create. Sure, they can create a vaccine for variation 32b, but there's a bunch of variants and new ones show up from time to time. A nice simple AIDS vaccine that you can give to kids is - as far as we know at this time - impossible.


    But this technology may provide a way to defend against this virus. By changing the "shape" of our T-cells it will prevent the virus from recognizing its target. This would render it ineffective and be effective against the numerous variants.

    Of course, this is still early in the development cycle. There's always the chance of unintended consequences...

    1. Re:This is probably good news by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Informative

      But this technology may provide a way to defend against this virus. By changing the "shape" of our T-cells it will prevent the virus from recognizing its target. This would render it ineffective and be effective against the numerous variants

      This does not make the T-cell invisible to HIV, it sets a trap.

      T Cell (in sexy voice): How about it, Mr. HIV, do you want to come into my place?
      HIV: Om nom nom let me put my arms around you baby... wait, where the fuck do I put my left arm? I can't penetrate without both arms around you!
      T cell: All your binding proteins are belong to me.
      HIV: I'm going to go hit on someone else. Let go of my right arm, you bastard!
      T cell: Om nom nom

      Well ok, it's a stretch, the T cell doesn't eat the virus at the end.

      But the zinc fingers don't disguise the T-cell, they keep the T-cell from expressing one of the antigens on its surface. So instead of the two binding sites needed for the T-cell to be infected, it only shows one.

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    2. Re:This is probably good news by GroeFaZ · · Score: 4, Funny

      Couldn't you have put it as an analogy that does not involve "making out"? Something slashdotters can understand, like, a car analogy?

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    3. Re:This is probably good news by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not possible* for the HIV virus to adapt to this, as it requires two different binding sites. If you remove one of the sites, binding and insertion is impossible.

      As for changing the genetic code, that's not what you're doing. Instead you are putting out a honeypot to attract the virus. The virus can still infect normal cells, but the modified cells can't be infected -- if you have enough of them, then the normal cells can go about their business. Here's a very simplified model:

      Say each generation of HIV has an infection success rate of 50%, and produces three viruses when it lyses its host cell. Each generation would then result in a 50% increase in number of viruses (N*0.5*3). Let's say that you have a 1:1 ratio of normal cells to modified cells. Any viruses that try to infect the modified cells fail, and are taken out of circulation. Now each generation will have a population of only 75% of the prior generation (N*0.5*0.5*3). You can practically get rid of the virus over many successive generations.

      * By not possible, I mean very very unlikely. It would require wholesale change of the virus structure.

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  10. Worst summary ever... by JDevers · · Score: 4, Informative

    Talk about completely misreading even the one paragraph blurb. Zinc fingers are a large group of protein sub-structures which are used to interact with DNA. This group used them to induce a specific mutation which now seems to be HIV resistant How long this will last is really up in the air though, HIV and all other RNA viruses evolve very quickly.

  11. Alternatively: by my_left_nut · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Researchers Throw Finger at HIV"

  12. Brilliant! by DeVilla · · Score: 4, Funny

    That sounds like a great plan. Insert errors into our genetic code until the virus leaves us alone. That's got to work.

  13. Re:So what? by cyphercell · · Score: 3, Funny

    Because....

    We run out of zinc, jackass!!!

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  14. Re:So what? by cp.tar · · Score: 5, Funny

    They need to be good libs

    As opposed to what, being a good "con" and doing what?

    Conning people?

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  15. Re:So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know this is offtopic to the article, but ontopic to the parent post.

    Just because the Mayans calendar ended then means what exactly? They didn't even invent, let alone UTILIZE the wheel...

    I'm glad this was modded funny and not informative, every time someone says this I die a little inside...

  16. Re:Messin around with T-Cells a bad thing? by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 3, Insightful
    But what happens when one partner is unfaithful, contracts AIDS, and passes it on to the faithful partner?

    What happens when someone with AIDS rapes someone?

    What happens when someone with AIDS passes it along to their unborn child (a rare occasion now due to modern medicine)?

    Get off your high horse tool. Some people are infected not because of their behavior, but fate. A fix should be available for them, as well as everyone else infected.

  17. Re:So what? by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just because the Mayans calendar ended then means what exactly? They didn't even invent, let alone UTILIZE the wheel...

          Not only that but they were able to predict "the end of the world" and yet utterly failed to foresee the end of their own civilization?

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  18. Re:So what? by Ihmhi · · Score: 2, Funny

    The world's gonna end on Diablo III's release date?

  19. Re:Why don't we use HIV cells behavior against the by PCM2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's pretty much what all AIDS drugs have attempted to do, thus far. Making fake cells seems problematic, since you would have to replace the patient's own cells with them until all the virus has been "cleaned up." But interrupting the life cycle of the virus is the main goal of therapy. Viruses typically use enzymes and proteins to move in and out of human cells. Influenza, for example, uses hemagglutinin to break its way into the cell, then later uses neuraminidase to break back out when it's ready to spread further. If you can somehow block the action of either of these proteins, you have managed to disrupt the viral life cycle. If it can't spread, it should eventually die off. Thus, if a doctor gives you medicine to fight a bad flu, he's probably giving you what is called a "neuraminidase inhibitor." Scientists have tried to create many HIV drugs along similar lines. The problem, as always, is that the HIV virus mutates so rapidly that you can't assume that what worked an hour ago will still work now (literally).

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  20. Re:So what? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know this is offtopic to the article, but ontopic to the parent post.

    Don't apologize... it's the way discussions are supposed to work. Too bad that more mods don't realize it.

    This post is, sadly, only tangentally ontopic since I'm replying to something that wasn't the main point of your poost. Alas.

  21. Re:SLASHDOT SUX0RZ by Smartcowboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What could possibly go wrong?

  22. Re:Messin around with T-Cells a bad thing? by Free+the+Cowards · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I guess when Isaac Asimov was infected with HIV from a contaminated blood transfusion he deserved to get sick and die!

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  23. Best Science Solution EVER!!! by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For years I've heard of HIV research focusing on either slowing the spread of HIV or focusing on killing the virus.

    This solution instead makes it so the virus will have no effect. I would imagine that a HIV infected victim that has not been vacinated should even be able to receive immunized T-cell injections or even pill supplements.

    The approach to this problem just reminds me of the kid that suggested letting the air out of the tires of the bus stuck in the tunnel. Of course it's obviously much more technical to modify T-cells in laboratories, but the beauty of the approach is equally elegant

  24. Re:So what? by saxoholic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just because the Mayans calendar ended then means what exactly? They didn't even invent, let alone UTILIZE the wheel...

    Not only that but they were able to predict "the end of the world" and yet utterly failed to foresee the end of their own civilization?

    This isn't actually true. The Mayan long count actually continues after 2012. The Mayans actually thought the world wouldn't end until sometime around 3000. The cause for the misinterpretation is in the way the Mayans wrote the date. There's a whole other digit that usually gets left out, because they saw no need to write the entire long count for things thousands of years in the future, but on a handful of totems you can actually see the entire long count for the end of the world date, and it's not until the 3000s, so we're good for a while.

  25. Re:So what? by Fred_A · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, we run out of zinc in 2011 and the end of the world comes in 2012.

    We could just move the end of the world forward by one year to solve the problem.

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  26. Re:Messin around with T-Cells a bad thing? by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Funny

    I guess when Isaac Asimov was infected with HIV from a contaminated blood transfusion he deserved to get sick and die!

    Absolutely, according to the original poster he shouldn't have had a transfusion without a condom, so it was completely his fault. (details are left as an exercise to the reader).

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  27. Re:So what? by alnapp · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mod +1 relieved

    Phew

  28. Nature does it too... by Mutatis+Mutandis · · Score: 2, Informative

    As it happens errors in the CCR5 receptor occur naturally and with a significant frequency, mainly in European populations. This 'delta32' mutation results in a defective receptor, but the people with it are healthy. There is also a drugs on the market, maraviroc, that specifically inhibits CCR5. People with the CCR5-Delta32 mutation are 'long term non progressors', they carry the virus but don't develop AIDS, probably because the virus is incapable of destroying their immune system. HIV is actually found in variants that use the CCR5 or CXCR4 receptors as co-receptors to enter cells. Apparently X4-tropic viruses, while deadly, have a limited effect on people with uncompromised immune systems. Most infections are with R5, and X4 strains evolve in the later stages of disease. I don't think anybody as yet understands why, but this is a very reproducible occurrence.