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The Microsoft Office Rental Program

LWATCDR writes "Yes, it looks like Microsoft is going to a rental program for Office. From the article, 'The software bundle, which also includes Microsoft's Live OneCare computer security software, will be sold at nearly 700 Circuit City stores for $70 per year.' Well I for one will be happy to stick with OpenOffice for now. From Microsoft's point of view it means a constant flow of money. For the customer it means you only have to pay a little each year instead of a lot every few years. I don't think this will save the average user any money and I wonder about problems with 'activation.' So will this fly, or will it give a big push to OpenOffice?

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  1. Bloat issue by michaelwigle · · Score: 5, Informative

    This has been mentioned before but running on the assumption you aren't trolling I'll update you a bit. OO.o does still have some bloat issues (primarily during launch, once it's running it's very quick). However, you can turn on an option that loads a small TSR on boot-up which eliminates that lag. Admittedly, it's a bit kludgy, but to be honest, I'd wager MS only gets away with a fast start to Office because part of it's core is in the OS so it seems a fair trade.

    As a side note, the startup process has improved enough that I don't bother with the TSR on newer machines but for the very impatient it's a nice feature to turn on. Give the latest OO.o a spin and see what you think. It's still not fancy but it's a great workhorse, gets the job done, and is free. What more could you want? :)

  2. Re:A "lot" every few years by poetmatt · · Score: 4, Informative

    Open Source Onenote?

    Yes, one you don't have to download, and one you do.

    On Linux: Basket Notepads
    On windows: Zoho Notebook (no software required for that one)

  3. Re:A "lot" every few years by gsasha · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is "Basket Note Pads", which is quite good IMHO. Works fine for me, and it's currently being ported to KDE4.
    Ah, you probably wanted something for Windows... tough luck. Or maybe there is something.

  4. "Push to OpenOffice"? by Froggie · · Score: 3, Informative

    OK, run that last line by me one more time...

    MS introduce an alternative licensing model for their customers. Presently, customers choose to buy MS Office even at its current cost. Wise customers in certain circumstances may choose to rent it instead, saving themselves money.

    Thus, Office, on the whole, is cheaper than it was. And in specific cases is no more expensive.

    These people have chosen MSOffice over OpenOffice, and now it costs them less. And you're suggesting that because MSOffice is cheaper, they'll stop using it?

  5. Good Idea for Certain Users by Admodieus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Included in this package is not only Microsoft Office, but also Windows Live OneCare among other services. Let's see how the math breaks down over the next few years:
    Traditional Purchase Model
    -Microsoft Office 2007 Home and Student - $150
    -Windows Live OneCare (with one year subscription) - $50
    -Next year's OneCare subscription - $50
    -Following year's OneCare subscription - $50
    -Microsoft Office 2009 Home and Student - $150
    Total for three years: $450

    Under the new Equipt Model
    -Microsoft Equipt (first year) - $70
    -Microsoft Equipt (second year) - $70
    -Microsoft Equipt (third year, includes upgrade to Office 2009) - $70
    Total for three years: $210

    Now, this is assuming that the user continues to subscribe to OneCare and eventually would upgrade to Office 2009 - however, assuming they do, the savings are pretty clear. Since this is being offered side-by-side with the traditional purchase model, I think this is a good move by Microsoft. Also, there is no alternative anywhere in the software universe that comes close to OneNote.

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    1. Re:Good Idea for Certain Users by guruevi · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can also see it the following way: Look at the period before 2007:

      -Microsoft Office 2003 Home and Student - $150

      -Microsoft subscription model (which would just have been Office 2003) - 4 x 70 = $280

      OneCare shouldn't even be bundled. First, there are other solutions (especially for home, there are a few free solutions). Second, they should make their OS more secure so that you wouldn't even need OneCare. I don't see no SimpleCare bundled with any Mac or Linux package nor is there a demand in those markets, not because they're a smaller market so people don't write virusses for it but because the freaking os doesn't do anything behind the scenes without the user knowing about it.

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  6. Re:More affordable up front ... by clodney · · Score: 2, Informative

    One thing that I think is overlooked is that this is not Office at $70/year, it is Office + AV for $70/year.

    Last I looked (which admittedly was 3 or 4 years ago), Norton wanted annual renewals of $40 for their AV suite, and Windows users have it hammered into them that they MUST keep their AV software up to date.

    Looked at that way, the incremental cost of having Office is $30/year on top of what they would spend on Anti-virus.

    Why its just pennies a day...

  7. $70 THIS year. $100 Next by syousef · · Score: 2, Informative

    Subscription services don't tend to get cheaper over time. In fact if lots of people take this up, demand increases and within a handful of years people will be paying the same amount to rent office for a year that they pay now to buy a non-terminating license.

    I hate anything as a service. Another regular bill, and another dependency on another company I probably don't like, because my alternative is to go without. Fuck that for a bag of chips.

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  8. Re:It's just a matter of time by Fozzyuw · · Score: 3, Informative

    but OpenOffice is still slow, huge, and somewhat more buggy.

    Slow? Definitely slower start... much slower. Like 10x longer to start. However, once it's started, it's just as "fast" as Office. This is my biggest and only real criticism of OpenOffice.

    Huge? Honestly, I've not looked at a size comparison. But I'll do one right now by opening a blank page in MSWord and OOWriter... 13,320k for Word, and 46,716k for Writer. Yup, much larger. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that every OO program is sort of bundled together as one application. Or so it feels.

    Buggy? I find the opposite true. I still have endless formatting issues with Word and I still see endless formatting issues from co-workers and family. People who loose Word documents because something went screwy and the backup failed or someone who just can't get Word to format a page correctly, resorting to copy/pasting into notepad and then starting a new document to remove all formatting. I've never had that problem with OO.

    A small price to pay for "free" and at least OO updates more than MSO.

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  9. Re:Paying for unnecessary upgrades... by craagz · · Score: 2, Informative
    I use Word 2007, it does not suggest a correction for

    At our office, we still you Office '97 because it does everything we need.

    . Stupid MSOffice.

  10. Re:It's just a matter of time by Shotgun · · Score: 4, Informative

    Careful with those comparisons.

    How much of MSWord is loaded at boot time as part of the "operating system"? That will make it seem to load faster and use less memory, because it has hidden large parts of itself in other places.

    OO.org used to have a "pre-load" option that should make the two equivalent, at least in the loading time.

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  11. Re:Mod parent +5 insightful by afidel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Huh? PDF IS an open format, the specs is available here and it's been submitted as an ISO standard, and not in the MS Office XML way, but as a fully documented standard with multiple compatible implementations in the wild.

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  12. Re:Mod parent +5 insightful by Hatta · · Score: 2, Informative

    PDF is ISO 32000. It's not just an open format, it's an open standard.

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  13. Re:A "lot" every few years by poetmatt · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well,

    it makes perfect sense for just text

    but OneNote allows clipboard copying and stuff like that. Just writing text we have notepad and equivalent in linux.

    Basket really does keep up with everything OneNote can do and zoho does too.

    Sometimes people need visual notes, etc etc. To me some of the features are just "unnecessary" as well.

  14. Re:It's just a matter of time by truthsearch · · Score: 3, Informative

    in comparison to Office, it's still slow to startup

    OpenOffice Beta 3 launches twice as fast for me ever since I turned off it's use of Java. Uncheck "Use Java runtime environment" in the preferences. I haven't found a feature that I needed yet which requires it.

  15. Re:It's just a matter of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Since at least 2003, none of Office is loaded with the OS. However, OOo still has a start-up app by default, and it's still slower

  16. Re:A "lot" every few years by pwizard2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The best notetaking software I've ever used is called Freemind. It's a hierarchical mindmapping tool that provides good structuring and quick notetaking since everything is bound to a key without having to navigate menus (of course, you can do that too, if you want)

    I'll go so far as to say that Freemind should be standard issue for every student.

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  17. Re:A "lot" every few years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    >If that doesn't convince you, consider all the people outside the United States. There are people in this world who don't see 150 dollars in hard cold cash in a MONTH.

    Irrelevant, MS has different pricing structures for different world regions.

  18. Re:A "lot" every few years by Shados · · Score: 2, Informative

    The fact that its made to take notes... its organized in a folder hierarchy, you can put anything anywhere, and it is made to clip and paste stuff (for example, if I copy paste a random HTML table from a web site into a word processor, it will be ugly as hell, while in OneNote it will be nicely formatted and can be put anywhere).

    It is used to make arrangements of clips and clippings, scribble with a tablet PC or a wacom or something, hand writing recognition (and its -really- good...). You can even record voice messages, and it will index them using voice recognitions and make them searchable (videos too).

    Taking notes in a word processor vs something like OneNote, is like doing word processing in Excel vs a word processor. It doesn't compare.