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Firefox Breaks 8 Million, Gets Into Guinness

Punkster812 writes "Mozilla has gotten the results back from the Guinness World Records and the official number that will be set as the record is 8,002,530 downloads. The day started out a little rough for them, with server troubles during the initial launch, but once they got everything going, they were able to transfer 62,419,734 MB in 24 hours. You can get more information, including a breakdown of how many downloads each country did from around the world, by visiting spreadfirefox.com. Congratulations, Mozilla, on the new record."

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  1. Obligatory UserFriendly comic by jeiler · · Score: 5, Funny
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  2. Arbitrary but impressive by jbarr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It appears that this is the first recorded record by Guinness Book, so it's kind of arbitrary, however shuttling 62TB of data is pretty impressive. Now that the gauntlet has been thrown down, it'll be interesting to see if other software companies will try to compete. If nothing else, this gave Firefox some much-needed press.

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    1. Re:Arbitrary but impressive by ozphx · · Score: 3, Informative

      Theres a few references to Adobe Flash being downloaded 10 million times on an average tuesday.

      Its a gold medal when you are the only one competing.

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  3. Congrats on breaking the non-existent record by TheRedSeven · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously, this is a great thing. But considering that no record existed previously, it's not exactly earth-shattering. I look to see this record broken with subsequent launches, as more and more people have access to the internet, and as Mozilla gains more share. Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US. It would be great to see a larger overseas distribution, especially considering the pledges that were signed in places like Africa.

    1. Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record by gparent · · Score: 2, Funny

      You could pick the country you signed the pledge from. Many people picked Africa for shits and giggles.

    2. Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record by ergo98 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US

      I don't think the map below the entry charts just the downloads on download day, given that simply adding Canada (at 790,624 actually comprising more per capita than the US) puts it far over their record count.

    3. Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record by rugatero · · Score: 5, Informative

      Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US

      No, 7.7m is the current figure. The US downloaded 2.5m of the 8m on Download Day.

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    4. Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Protip: Africa is not a country.

    5. Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record by mark72005 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Those pinkos didn't put America on there either!

    6. Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record by Slashidiot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, you are right. Also, talking about per capita, is there somewhere a list of downloads per capita en each country? That would be nice to know, as total downloads mean very little (yeah, of course here in luxembourg we had very few downloads, the country is tiny!)

      Some random (a bit biased) selection of countries with downloads per capita (x1000). Data comes from the Spread Firefox webpage and population from wikipedia

      Canada 23.74
      US 25.40
      Germany 30.00
      UK 19.79
      France 15.19
      Spain 17.90
      Luxembourg 36.72

      Now, this tells me more than just downloads per country. Now Luxembourg looks better :).

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    7. Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Now you just need to normalize by access to high-speed internet, and you've got a better picture.

      Per capita means nothing when less than 10% of a country has access to high-speed internet.

      What I'd really like to see is how many people downloaded the Windows version, compared to the installed Windows base, per country.

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    8. Re:Congrats on breaking the non-existent record by a.ameri · · Score: 3, Informative

      1 Lithuania 126.79
      2 Iceland 49.5
      3 Luxembourg 38.02
      4 Switzerland 37.52
      5 Norway 36.37
      6 Slovenia 35.57
      7 Finland 33.96
      8 Faeroe 33.84
      9 Estonia 33.67
      10 Liechtenstein 31.92
      11 Germany 30.77
      12 Singapore 29.43
      13 Netherlands 27.7
      14 Sweden 27.55
      15 Austria 27.19
      16 Denmark 26.11
      17 USA 25.99
      18 Hong Kong 25.04
      19 Canada 24.43
      20 Ireland 23.16
      21 Hungary 22.99
      22 Bulgaria 22.46
      23 Australia 22.19
      24 Poland 21.54
      25 Bermuda 20.71
      26 Belgium 20.53
      27 UK 20.32
      28 Latvia 19.66
      29 Israel 19.58
      30 New Zealand 19.19
      31 Spain 18.33
      32 Czech 18.11
      33 Malta 17.87
      34 Antigua & Barbuda 17.86
      35 Romania 15.78
      36 Andorra 15.69
      37 France 15.67
      38 Barbados 15.31
      39 Qatar 15.17
      40 Slovakia 15.05
      41 Aruba 14.58
      42 Greece 13.77
      43 Anguilla 13.54
      44 Maldives 13.35
      45 Croatia 13.31
      46 Italy 13.16
      47 Chile 12.8
      48 Portugal 12.68
      49 Cyprus 12.1
      50 Taiwan 11.3
      51 Japan 10.77
      52 UAE 10.52
      53

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  4. Good work! by gparent · · Score: 3, Insightful

    An excellent move for Mozilla. Although I'm sure a lot of these downloads were from existent Firefox 1.5/2 users, I'm sure some of the people using Internet Explorer jumped on the FF bandwagon. Less spyware, better browsing, less bullshit. Good work.

    1. Re:Good work! by ergo98 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm sure some of the people using Internet Explorer jumped on the FF bandwagon.

      It has been several years since there was a justifiable, logical reason to stick with Internet Explorer (this isn't flamebait, oh holy Microsoft defenders, but the truth is that Microsoft just stopped caring about the browser market, and innovation dried up. IE 7 was a groaner, and IE 8 thus far is shaping up to be more of the same), so aside from pushing Firefox into people's awareness via gimmicks like this Guinness Record, it isn't like they just need to add that one last feature for it to be compelling.

      If people are still using Internet Explorer, it can only be explained as ignorance or complacency.

      While I hate to go there, at this point I think we need to see some apps that require Firefox (which isn't so onerous. Unlike demanding Internet Explorer, which intrinsically also demands Windows, usually at a contemporary version, Firefox runs on just about everything, and installing it doesn't change or screw with a properly running system). Offline app support, the canvas element, alongside numerous other web app bits and pieces, it really is the platform that Marc Andreesson was promising a decade+ prematurely.

    2. Re:Good work! by ergo98 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You say "complacency" like it's such a bad thing.

      No, I say complacency like it's a real consumer motivator, which it is.

      Complacency is the reason that inferior products can succeed if they're cleverly bundled. There is endless inefficiency in the market, where people are overcharged or provided inferior products or services for their money (for instance so long as the audience is complacent, movies will continue inserting more and more ads), because they are complacent about it, not wanting to be bothered thinking about it or making any transition or challenging the status quo.

      This is simply a statement of fact, not an indictment of complacent users. Everyone is complacent in some areas of life (I don't like complaining about bad service at restaurants, and always leave a good tip, so in essence I am encouraging and supporting shit service and food quality), and the simple hard fact is that so long as IE is bundled and automatically pushed via Windows update, Firefox has a plexiglass ceiling limiting its market saturation.

  5. Just thing of all... by dwiget001 · · Score: 2, Funny

    the chairs that died to bring us this news....

  6. Re:lame by gparent · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Considering Internet Explorer ships with Windows and most often is forced on users with automatic updates, this is hardly surprising. At least Firefox users choose to download it. (And yes, I know you can turn auto updates off).

  7. North Korea by courteaudotbiz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Funny... nobody from North Korea downloaded Firefox 3.

    1. Re:North Korea by Absolutexero · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's because people in North Korea are evil, the videos of them in black and white are not actually filmed in b/w, they're just so evil, they have no color.... at least that's what Lewis Black said anyway

    2. Re:North Korea by kalirion · · Score: 5, Funny

      Minesweeper.

  8. Windows Update? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder how downloads Windows Update gets every patch Tuesday? Automated downloads, but downloads none the less.

  9. Speaking of obligatory webcomic references by john83 · · Score: 5, Funny
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  10. Obligitory terrible joke... by hbean · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its amazing that over 300k people downloaded firefox from russia, despite the fact that in soviet russia, firefox downloads you. /groan

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    1. Re:Obligitory terrible joke... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You forgot to click on "Other Stats" on the downloads per country page:

      People downloaded by Firefox:

      United States..... 0
      Canada............ 0
      France............ 0
      Spain............. 0
      Soviet Russia..... 8,548,674

  11. Iran vs Saudi Arabia by diegocn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Amazingly Iran has far more download than Saudi. No wonder being an US ally sucks.

  12. Re:lame by __aamnbm3774 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    yea but seriously, what does this number even mean??

    I doubt exactly, 8,002,530 people installed it and are using it. You know there were plenty of anti-microsoft nerds who downloaded it 50 times each.

    We might as well just stick to bandwidth measurements, in which case YouTube would smash the above record.

    I'm happy FF 3.0 is out and all, but I don't really see the big deal in this number.

  13. It is not a sign of success, really. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The real sign of success or progress would be when OEMs pre-install FireFox. I don't understand why the OEMs are so timid and still so tied to MSFT.

    Imagine what preloading FireFox could do to the brand-differentiation of Dell or HP. Why do they not try this obvious move but insist on fighting on price? What really is in the undisclosed agreements between the big name PC vendors and MSFT? What it would take for them to break out?

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    1. Re:It is not a sign of success, really. by f8l_0e · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's not Microsoft they're worried about pissing off. Network Associates and Symantec pay OEMs good money to pre-install McAfee and NAV. If you promote a browser less likely to get a machine infected, and the 90 day trial AV doesn't intercept an infection, the AV makers have no reason to advertise their software on your machine.

  14. ^__^ by WoggyMumma · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Someone make a map like that but base it on percentage of population.

  15. Are they counting source-code downloads too? by mi · · Score: 2, Funny

    Pre-built binaries are for wussies — real women and men build from source.

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  16. Holy shit! by LordKaT · · Score: 2, Funny

    Russia's huge!

  17. Re:lame by gparent · · Score: 3, Informative

    I was referring to Internet Explorer 7 on Windows XP, which is pushing as an automatic update now if I'm not mistaken.

  18. french guiana in need of stone by jessica_alba · · Score: 3, Funny

    With their main industries being fishing, gold mining and timber they are unable to build a castle and advance to the internet age, hence their zero d/l stats.

  19. I would call it a sucess.. by Junta · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That the actual end users explicitly seek out a piece of software, rather than settle for a defacto standard. Having users because they are too lazy to replace what the OEM gave them is, in my opinion, not as impressive.

    As to the OEMs, there is the possibility of a kickback from MS from using IE exclusively, just like other 'free software', but I would think that would perhaps be too brazen considering the whole anti-trust thing.

    Another possibility is a deep seated fear of distributing open-source software that seems to pervade these companies. Dell at least should be over it since it ships linux pre-installed, but then again, lawyers can insist that though the codebase is the same, they need to be paid to review different uses of it.

    And finally, there is the possibility they believe it really not worth their time to bother. Would you *honestly* choose one brand over another *just* because of firefox being pre-installed, even if the firefox one is more expensive? It would take some work to migrate their crapware platform to make sure things work with firefox that would cost more than zero dollars. Meanwhile, the customers probably aren't looking for that explicitly, since they by and large can just download it truly for free themselves. Pre-install of linux is one thing, it gives an assurance about the hardware choices with respect to linux drivers, but Firefox is just a browser.

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  20. Thanks for the arrogance by kiwimate · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If people are still using Internet Explorer, it can only be explained as ignorance or complacency.

    Or personal preference. I downloaded Firefox about a year ago, tried it alongside IE for several weeks, determined there were parts I liked, parts I didn't, and ultimately made the decision that I preferred IE. It's nice to have a choice, and I have made my pick. Others picked something else, whether it be Firefox, Opera, or something entirely different. Fine. Good for them. I don't care because I have my browsing experience the way I want it and that's all I really care about.

    If Firefox works for you, hurrah. I'm not so smug and condescending that I'm going to start calling you names. Just let me have what I prefer and we're all happy. I don't care if you think I made a poor or even stupid decision, in much the same way as I don't care if a Honda driver thinks I shouldn't be driving a Toyota. Isn't that the whole point: for people to have choices and be able to choose what they prefer?

    1. Re:Thanks for the arrogance by ergo98 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I certainly didn't intend any holy war (though I got a chuckle out of the other poster calling me an "OSS blowhard": I'm the guy that has been called a Microsoft shill / astroturfer so many times on here that I started wearing it as a badge. I suppose zealots on either side attempt to strengthen their argument by exaggerating the positions they disagree with)

      I don't care if you think I made a poor or even stupid decision, in much the same way as I don't care if a Honda driver thinks I shouldn't be driving a Toyota.

      Honda and Toyota? In the browser market, that analogy works better with a Firefox / Opera / Safari battle: All top tier browsers, each having compelling attributes.

      Internet Explorer is not a top tier browser. It is akin to buying a unreliable, poor mileage, quickly depreciating car just because that's the brand that Pappy liked back when it was good, and you're too complacent and comfortable to change.

    2. Re:Thanks for the arrogance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Allow me to give you something else to chew on: if you're still using Internet Explorer, you are willfully placing a lot of burden on web developers across the globe. That can be seen as ignorant, arrogant or complacent as well. Assuming you're techno-literate, we can scratch the ignorant excuse. Especially if you put statements like this in your response:

      I don't care because I have my browsing experience the way I want it and that's all I really care about.

      Other than that, freedom of choice is a wonderful thing...

  21. Brilliance by kanweg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And it is not just that the Firefox programmers are brilliant and creative.

    In its own way one should acknowledge the strategic brilliance of the way the record was planned. By being US centric (as in, failing to recognise that there is something like human beings abroad), the 24 hour period was set to start such that people in countries like NZ, AU and JP were frustrated in not seeing the new version when the due date arrived, (or downloaded old stuff, ha ha). For those who waited, they were joined by hoards of Europeans and Brits (I'm sure they appreciate this gesture) who had to wait until the evening before they could join the Americans to swamp the servers. Those Europeans who gave up before local 12 PM and didn't realise that they could still help to set the record by downloading it in the morning, also failed to add to the number of copies downloaded. So, in short, the Mozilla organisation has made it easy for themselves to beat their own record, provided they are brilliant enough to recognise the rude brilliance of the first record attempt.

    Bert

  22. Re:Download Stats by cyfer2000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    there were some evil companies packaged their evil extensions (addons?) with firefox and tricked people to download in China some time ago. So the brand name of Firefox is not so good in China.

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  23. Re:lame by learningtree · · Score: 5, Informative

    The SpearFirefox FAQ clearly states that the download count does not include duplicate downloads, incomplete downloads or downloads done through Firefox updates.

  24. Stats by countries only? by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would've liked to see stats per operating system too.

  25. I'm Impressed.... by RobDude · · Score: 2, Insightful

    FireFox stagged a publicity stunt and a bunch of anti-ms fanboys ate it up like candy.

    First, FireFox asked/begged people to all download on a particular day to break this record. I've never been 'asked' to download any other piece of software on a particular day to break any record.

    Second, what was the existing record? *GASP* you don't mean to tell me there *wasn't* an existing record? Well then....that's not really all that impressive - is it? WoW supposedly has 9 million users, and come patch day they'd all be glad to download files much larger than FF3....oh but that doesn't count because it's a patch? Gotcha.

    So umm, basically, FireFox made up some very specific rules so that they could break a record held by nobody so they can get their name in the paper for something that will say, 'FireFox most downloaded browser ever!' or something.

    Besides which, who exactly was counting the 8 million downloads?

    Nothing to see here, just marketing hype.