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Is Today's Web Still 'the Web'?
snydeq writes "Fatal Exception's Neil McAllister raises questions regarding the transforming nature of the Web now that Tim Berners-Lee's early vision has been supplanted by today's much more complex model. AJAX, Google Web Toolkit, Flash and Silverlight all have McAllister asking, 'Is [the Web] still the Web if you can't navigate directly to specific content? Is it still the Web if the content can't be indexed and searched? Is it still the Web if you can only view the application on certain clients or devices? Is it still the Web if you can't view source?' Such questions bely a much bigger question for Web developers, McAllister writes. If today's RIAs no longer resemble the 'Web,' then should we be shoehorning these apps into the Web's infrastructure, or is the problem that the client platforms simply aren't evolving fast enough to meet our needs?" If the point of 'The Web' is to allow direct links between any 2 points, is today's web something entirely different?
As long as there is a central place for me to go download my midget porn, the web will live on.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
That is, with 238% more lolcats, buttsecks, and social networking sites
Complex porn? You mean like porn with things like sqrt(-boobs)?
Every time you use the phrase "fixed that for you," God makes you look like a tool.
If you mod me Overrated, you are admitting that you have no penis.
theres still more porn on the inter tubes than one can shake a stick at
When referencing porn, could you PLEASE choose a better expression?
Programmer: an ingenious device that converts caffeine into code.
God is not required for that step. :-P
Cheers
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
Have you ever seen a linear spider web?
Yes. And the spider landed right on my keyboard as it came down, too.
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
Plaintext ASCII. I don't see the need for anything more than courier and perhaps bold/italic/underline for emphasis. Bring back Gopher!
YMBNH.
"Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
You're going to need some real porn to go with that. As it stands, it's just imaginary.
my insights may be modded Funny, but at least some of my jokes are modded Insightful
The people I deal with have the reverse problem: Internet Explorer* is "The Internet". Outlook (or even worse, OE) is "The Email", which is completely separate from "The Internet". Even if they learn to use a webmail service, they assume that Internet Explorer magically takes them off of "The Internet" and on to "The Email".
If you asked them what "the Web" is, they'd look confused for a minute, then say "oh, that's The Internet."
*And, of course, "The Internet" is disconnected from their computer whenever they close Internet Explorer.
How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
Except for 12 steps -- God (or a reasonable facsimile) is a requirement there. :-P
Cheers
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
I don't agree. I am a moron who cannot get anything ok-sounding to come out of an electric guitar.
Links on the left!
Links on the right!
Web ads! Popups!
Blight! Blight! Blight!
Of course, boobs and sqrt(-boobs) are both complex. What distinguishes the two is that boobs is real whereas sqrt(-boobs) is imaginary.
God gets mod points? We're screeeewed!
If you haven't been down-modded lately, you aren't trying.
Sacred cows make the best hamburger.
My users might have yours beat....at least in one area. If I say "Internet Explorer", their eyes glaze over. I have to call it "The Blue E".
One user impressed me, by saying he quit using Microsoft products. Then he explained that he was using "Foxfire for XP".
God gets mod points? We're screeeewed!
Yeah; he's the only person who can mod something up to +6 or down to -2 ("Heretical").
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sqrt(-boobs) == eromanga/cartoon porn.
log(boobs) == scheisseporn/cleveland steamer.
ln(boobs) == amateur scheisseporn/cleveland steamer.
(boobs)^2 == lesbian porn.
1/(boobs) == acrobatic porn.
"Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
Fixé ça pour vous.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Excellent point. It really is unimportant.
From now on:
web = ftp = e-mail = usenet = irc = internet = everything
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go internet an archive of old internets and internet logs so that I can post it on internet and also on my internet site.
Signed,
Internet
That made your point very well, assuming your point was "I'm an unsocialized asshole who really shouldn't be allowed to interact with other people."
And lord knows I like shaking my stick at it.
And when Internet Explorer crashes, the whole Internet dies (temporarily) along with it. I have heard people say things like this, they must be scared shitless at the effect they can have.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it