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Open Source Twitter Competitor Emerges

ruphus13 writes "Twitter has had a lot of public woes with Open Source technologies like Ruby on Rails, and a lot of alternatives have sprung up in the micro-blogging world, but no one has managed to dislodge twitter in its usage or appeal. Now, an Open Source alternative by Identi.ca, backed by project Laconica has emerged. From the article, 'It supports OpenID for logins, is completely free software, and is designed to apply a Creative Commons license to all the traffic that it carries. It's also built to support the OpenMicroBlogging protocol, meaning that (at least in theory) it can attack scalability issues by federating together multiple autonomous servers. The underpinnings of Laconica include PHP, PEAR, and XMPP. You can download a tarball of the source, or check it out directly if you're using Darcs (there's also an unofficial mirror on Google Code, giving you Subversion access for a read-only copy).' The community will still need to work on this, if a true competitor to Twitter is to emerge. It is lacking APIs, and SMS integration. Oh, and millions of users!"

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  1. @slashdot by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Taking a dump, will read this later.

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    1. Re:@slashdot by ergo98 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Beautiful, ontopic first post.

      Twitter is overhyped, with a very small percentage of the world (mostly in the valley) yelling into an echo chamber, convincing themselves that the resulting din is a result of the platform's success.

      Where once people penned carefully authored essays, they then started writing papers. That was too much effort, so they started making articles. Articles were too much trouble so poorly researched, error-filled, rashly composed blog posts became the new norm.

      That was too much hassle so now people just puke everything they think on Twitter.

      Twitter is a service, and remarkably few care whether it is "open source" or not (though they do care that it is purportedly terribly unreliable). Oooh, but this one is designed to apply a Creative Commons license to people's finger spews? Come on.

    2. Re:@slashdot by hostyle · · Score: 3, Informative

      ... one horse race ...

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    3. Re:@slashdot by Bogtha · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Where once people penned carefully authored essays, they then started writing papers. That was too much effort, so they started making articles. Articles were too much trouble so poorly researched, error-filled, rashly composed blog posts became the new norm.

      Essays, papers, articles and blog posts are all the same thing. The only exception is that a blog post is tied to a specific medium. Think about it - everything you say about blog posts can just as easily apply to the others.

      • Poorly researched, error-filled, rashly composed essay
      • Poorly researched, error-filled, rashly composed paper
      • Poorly researched, error-filled, rashly composed article

      The same works in reverse. The good qualities of essays can apply to the others as well:

      • Carefully authored blog post
      • Carefully authored article
      • Carefully authored paper

      A blog post is just the modern-day essay. On average, the quality of blog posts may be dire, but that's because a) more people are in a position to spend their time writing, b) more people are inclined to do so, and c) all are available a click away rather than the cream of the crop being reproduced in libraries or wherever. That's one hell of a selection bias.

      Twitter is intrinsically different. It's limited to one or two sentences. It's only useful for throwing out a single thought. You can't elaborate. You can't form an argument. You can't support an argument with evidence. It's superficial by its very nature.

      But does this really matter? Twitter isn't designed to replace blog posts, or articles, or papers, or essays. It isn't used for that purpose. It's a way of just throwing out a single nugget of information. Can that information be trivial and useless, for instance, "taking a dump, BRB"? Sure. Can it be useful, for instance letting people know about a service update? Sure.

      Twitter isn't useless, and it isn't part of a trend. Overhyped, yes. Often used for stupid things, yes. But the link between Twitter and more serious communication is tenuous at best. The difference between Twitter and blog posts is like the difference between leaning over to another desk and mentioning something to a colleague compared with sending a company-wide memo. They are simply different things.

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  2. CC LIcense? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    'It supports OpenID for logins, is completely free software, and is designed to apply a Creative Commons license to all the traffic that it carries. ...

    What? Does it just slap a CC license on any thing posted on it?

  3. The twitter version of your post: by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Funny

    Beautiful, ontopic first post.

    Twitter is overhyped, with a very small percentage of the world (mostly in the valley) yelling into an echo chamber, convincing th

    Maybe /. should try enforcing a 160 character limit for posts.

    It'd certainly take the wind out of rants and loooooong posts.

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    1. Re:The twitter version of your post: by somersault · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Never is such a strong word. A lot of times the comments are more interesting than TFA, but when pictures or a video are required, or the subject is something damn cool - like that 3D display or advanced prosthetic limbs - then it's sometimes worth skimming the article.

      It's amazing how easily massive offtopic conversations appear near the top of articles though. Even worse, I usually want to finish reading the offtopic discussion and sometimes just don't get to the actual on-topic discussion..

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  4. Great by Daimanta · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's all we need. An open source sockpuppet. Since open source software is usually better it will be able to mask as a regular /.er more effectively. Damn you open source and your effectiveness!

    Oh wait, the other Twitter...

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    1. Re:Great by Macthorpe · · Score: 3, Funny

      That Twitter is pretty much open source already...

      Anyway, in his defense, he's been pretty good with using only the one account recently - and although I don't agree with anything he says, I'm perfectly alright with him expressing it as long as he's stopped resorting to the shilling that got all his accounts karmabombed.

      Yes, that includes all the times I apparently threatened to kill him, which he has apparently diligently recorded. There goes a man with no sarcasm-meter.

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  5. The innovation value chain by ka9dgx · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The users of twitter got upset that the service was down so much, but all the blogging in the world doesn't do as much good as a single pissed off programmer who actually did something about it, and wrote something to start to replace twitter.

    That single programmer probably wouldn't have made much of a dent in the situation, but another pissed off programmer took his work, and made it work on his system, twice and got federation to work, then wrote to tell the rest of us about it.

    It was only after this that the blogosphere actually has a snowballs chance in hell of adding any value, by making sure that other people know about the efforts of these two programmers (and all of the ones before them).

    As he said over at 0xDECAFBAD, '...ideas are fucking worthless', it's actually adding some value to the ideas, no matter how big or small, that get the snowball rolling in the right direction.

    I hope this post helps someone else see how open source really works. If not, it's fucking worthless.

    --Mike--

  6. Twitter has only one purpose for me: by Kabuthunk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have an section on my website that posts my twitter. In plain text. No fancy background, image-heavy, 'sleek' looking background or whatnot... it's just straight, text that shows my last twitter. It's useful for posting why X thing is broken on my site if I notice a problem from work, or my computer crashes and I want to let people who visit my site know why there's no updates, stuff like that (since I can text a twitter from my cellphone). To keep it from showing the same downtime reason for weeks at a time, I update it every so often with whatever random thought. Once or twice a week tops.

    That said, the only reason I use Twitter is because it's the only application I've found that allows me to very easily and quickly post a quick informational update to my website no matter where I am (again, cellphone).

    If this open-source option allows that, I'm all for it. Otherwise, I'm not particularly pleased with Twitter as a whole. If anyone knows of any alternatives that allow me to do exactly what I use it for above, let me know... I'll bail Twitter if I can find a better alternative.

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  7. The source license isn't the point by bitspotter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's cool to get a good license, no doubt. But the appeal of Twitter to me isn't the software license - it's the service provided. Specifically, it's the timely access they provide to the closed SMS network.

    For a while, I was using my wireless phone carrier's email gateway to send my phone text messages generated by server monitoring scripts. When their gateway got clogged and delayed, I discovered that Twitter wasn't. So now my monitors use the Twitter API.

    Other than for that, I wouldn't bother with Twitter - and I don't.

    So public licensing is nice, but unless they've somehow cracked the gates of the closed SMS network, I don't see much to be excited about.

  8. goodnewsbadnews by owlnation · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While it's good that there's new and innovative uses for Open Source, the last thing the world needs is another fucking Twitter.

    Twitter is the singular most overhyped (and seemingly overstretched) and in-your-face viral spamming thing since Ron Paul and Facebook. Soooo much sock puppetry.

    It's just another dumb passing fad, and if you're not ZOMG 14 you'll probably never use it. Presumably some retard media giant will overpay for it, and then no-one will ever use it again -- just like all the others. The sooner the better please.

    The directors of Twitter are just another bunch of jerks who should be first against the wall come the revolution.

  9. A limit on sockpuppetry by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe /. should try enforcing a 160 character limit for posts.

    Better yet: Enforce such a limit, but only for twitter and his socks ;-)

    1. Re:A limit on sockpuppetry by dreamchaser · · Score: 3, Funny

      Complaining is a right covered by the First Amendment.

      Complaining about Twitter is a sport.

    2. Re:A limit on sockpuppetry by dreamchaser · · Score: 2, Funny

      Twitter actually works for Microsoft. It's reverse psychology; he rants and rants against their evils in such an inane and idiotic manner that it makes people feel sympathy for Redmond.

      I'll bet they pay him a good bit for it too.

  10. What a life to lead by Cathoderoytube · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's baffling to think this 'micro blogging' nonsense is really coming to the point where there's competition for it. Back in my day folks didn't particularly care if you were vacuuming, or watching a DVD. I guess one of the boons of this web 2.0 is convincing people that other people really really care what they're doing at any given time.

    Just for the record, I'm currently sitting at my desk in my underpants drinking whiskey right out of the bottle while openly weeping.

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  11. Re:what is it? by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, but did it get him any respect?

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  12. Oh boy, not here too by unity100 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "OpenMicroBlogging protocol" - we have recently had an article in /. shoving "geomicroblogging" up to us as a new buzzword, had a few laughs about the speed buzzwords are increasing ... made a few jokes myself, but i gotta admit, i would never expect to see a buzzword pushed as a goddamn PROTOCOL. nothing is safe now it seems. next in line will probably be stuff like "UppityGiggidyDataTransfer", "DiddlyDooNeighboring client" and "HeavenlyButtLoadBalancing" - quick !! run while you still have time - so you may keep your sanity.

  13. Why the Twitter hate? by AnyoneEB · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What is with the Twitter hate? Seriously, I want to know. I have barely encountered Twitter, and I have certainly not seen any "hype" about it, so maybe I just missed a wave of annoying news articles about it.

    The only use of Twitter I have seen is Fred of MegaTokyo's status feed which gives info on how far along Fred is with a comic or why a comic is late. Anyone who is familiar with MegaTokyo is probably familiar with MegaTokyo's common delays, so this info is very useful. The three most recent Twitter statuses appear on the website.

    Another poster mentioned that he also has a Twitter feed for website status and has the most recent one appear on the site.

    I usually see jokes about constant status updates via Twitter, but, well, no one is forcing you to read them; they are for the people who care about that person's status. Occasionally I am interested in when the next MegaTokyo comic will be posted, so I check his Twitter. I do not see how this is much different from IM status messages: usually if I want to get a vague idea of what my friends are up to, I can check their AIM away messages.

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  14. Re:FUCK VIACOM , FUCK DA JEW by somersault · · Score: 2, Funny

    A trolling parody account based on the main flamebate/troll-ish creator of parody accounts? The plot thickens.. are you the open source twitter competitor that TFA is talking about?

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