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Meet the New Chess Boxing Champion of the World

Attila Dimedici writes "A Russian man has just been crowned world champion in the sport of chess boxing. Apparently the idea originated in a French comic strip from the early '90s. In 2003 a Dutch artist decided to bring the 'sport' to life. The 'sport' is played by starting a chess match in the middle of a boxing ring. After four minutes, the chess board is cleared and the opponents box for three minutes. A match consists of six rounds of chess and five rounds of boxing. A match is decided by knockout, checkmate, or points."

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  1. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard by oodaloop · · Score: 5, Funny

    and I can't wait to watch it.

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  2. new sport.. by Rixel · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmmm....

    I have come up with a new sport come April

    Tax-Sex

    You sit in the middle of the Kitchen and agonize over deductions for 10 minutes, then do it doggy style on them thar reciepts.

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    1. Re:new sport.. by antifoidulus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just one question: Where in the hell are you finding hot, horny accountants?

      Certainly not at the H&R Block....

    2. Re:new sport.. by Joebert · · Score: 5, Funny

      Where's the new part ?

      I've been getting fucked on my taxes for years.

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    3. Re:new sport.. by greg1104 · · Score: 5, Funny

      This sport, combining complicated tax work with being fucked hard, already exists: they call it "getting an audit".

  3. I'd put money on the boxer any day by piltdownman84 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wouldn't this heavily favour brawn over brains? I mean any half decent bruiser could just avoid getting checkmated right away and then knock the nerd out in the first round.

    1. Re:I'd put money on the boxer any day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't see a problem. Fighers don't fight outside their class, so why would they do it when chess-boxing. Bruiser vs. nerd would be a very odd matchup. This is a game for intellectual pugilists.

    2. Re:I'd put money on the boxer any day by techsoldaten · · Score: 5, Informative

      The chess part is speed chess, which can be quite difficult and heavily favors those who are well practiced in strategy and able to make decisions faster.

      Players are given 1 - 5 minutes each to win a game, which generally does not result in a checkmate outcome. Rather, the person whose time expires first loses. The best strategy is to set up complex positions on the board that require ample thought on the part of your opponent and watch his or her time expire.

      I would put my money on the chess player who can roll with the punches and make effective 1 second moves on the board. You can do rope a dope sometimes by letting other players move very quickly and eating up their major pieces when they make a mistake.

      M

    3. Re:I'd put money on the boxer any day by Propaganda13 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I thought the same thing, and figured they must have rules against this type of play.

        But then couldn't a boxer like Mike Tyson immediately win the world champion title in the second round of the fight?

      No, the WCBO's statutes foresee a minimum ELO ranking of 1800 in chess. Each competitor has to fulfil this minimum standard in order to participate in an official chessboxing fight. Someone like Mike Tyson would need years of training to reach this standard...
      In addition, there's also the zugzwang rule. When a chessboxer doesn't make a move and the referee has good reason to believe that he or she is doing this deliberately, a warning is issued. When the chessboxer still fails to make a move, a second warning is issued whereupon he or she is forced to make a move. If no move is made upon the second warning, the player is immediately disqualified.

    4. Re:I'd put money on the boxer any day by joaommp · · Score: 4, Funny

      Mike Tyson would bite the other player's pawns heads off.

    5. Re:I'd put money on the boxer any day by 7+digits · · Score: 5, Informative

      > Players are given 1 - 5 minutes each to win a game, which generally does not result in a checkmate outcome
      Do you actually play chess ? Blitz games often ends in checkmate, because the player with the biggest time pressure will blunder.

      I have seen my son give otb (=over the board) checkmate in rapid chess to someone 300 ELO higher than him with 3 seconds vs 5 seconds left and 8 moves.

      Of course, the player with worst position can choose not to move and lose on time, but it is the stupidest thing to do, because in chess, you can think on the opponent time

      Just look at the tie-break in US women championship. 11 seconds vs 2 seconds. Wanna bet who won ?

      Lurk around playchess.com. You'll see 1 minute bullets games (ie: 1 minute for each opponents). The average rate of play is higher than 1 move per second, and they generally finish in checkmate.

      PS: slashdot formatting is borken for me. Can' do proper paragraphs. Such is life

    6. Re:I'd put money on the boxer any day by Temtongkek · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "The chess part is speed chess, which can be quite difficult and heavily favors those who are well practiced in strategy and able to make decisions faster." Mistake. Huge mistake. Those who are able toplay blitz/bullet/speed/whatever-u-want-to-call-it Chess are excellent TACTICIANS. Strategy, the long-term plan in Chess, is almost always sacrificed in favor of shorter-term, more easily calculated variations designed to trap/x-ray/skewer/check/checkmate your opponent. There simply isn't time to formulate anything strategically. In speed Chess, it's tactics. On the other side of the coin, if you play a few rounds of speed Chess and then try your hand at a non-speed game, you'll find yourself being a lot more impulsive and blundering due to lack of foresight and proper calcuations to thwart your enemy's plans.

  4. Why is this not on TV? by damburger · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have seen the future of sports and it says 'I took a lot of body-blows in the fourth round and that affected my concentration. That's why I made a big mistake in the fifth round: I did not see him coming for my king,'

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    1. Re:Why is this not on TV? by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Funny

      He was warned for hitting bellow the belt in the fourth round, after which I was forced to sacrifice my bishop.

    2. Re:Why is this not on TV? by Joebert · · Score: 4, Funny

      well not sacrifice intentionally, I could have sworn I still had two bishops left. Apparently that uppercut in the 3rd was harder than I thought.

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  5. Afterwards in a rare exhibition match..... by multipass666 · · Score: 5, Funny

    He goes head-to-head against the world champion of Kung-fu Go.

    1. Re:Afterwards in a rare exhibition match..... by Digestromath · · Score: 4, Funny
      Quite frankly I'm waiting for Mixed Martial Arts Scrabble.

      Post Fight Interview :

      "Yeah I came out throwing hard. I was pretty much gassed with only a minute left in the round. He got me in that guillotine choke and I only barely got out. But then at the start of the next round, I hit him with a "QUOITED" on a triple word score, pretty much sealed the deal, I really want to win with a knock out, but I'll take the win on points."

  6. Codeboxing by techsoldaten · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, we have something like that at my company called codeboxing.

    Developers receive documentation and go off to work on something. The moment they run into an ambiguous or poorly defined requirement, they jump into the ring with the person who wrote it for up to 6 rounds of boxing. Between rounds, they refine the language of the requirement. The match is decided by a panel of managers, agreement between the two parties, or knock out.

    M

  7. Battle Chess Nostalgia by eennaarbrak · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was rather hoping for a BattleChess like game where the players box it out to decide which piece captures which. This just sounds ... weird.

    1. Re:Battle Chess Nostalgia by TheLink · · Score: 4, Informative

      The difference between archon and battlechess is battlechess is just chess with 3d graphics animation of what happens when stuff is captured.

      Whereas archon, just because you move the piece to a spot doesn't mean you get to eliminate the piece - what it does is it starts up an arcade battle between the two pieces.

      The two pieces could be a knight versus a dragon, and if you are really good at the knight you could actually kill the dragon, it helps of course if the dragon was badly injured in previous battles and was not healed by the player (it costs a move to heal, so heals are rare).

      Also in the first archon, white pieces and black pieces get health bonuses depending on whether the square is black, dark gray, gray, light gray or white.

      Overall there was some strategy involved but it's typically overshadowed by arcade skills.

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  8. Actually, this may not be as idiotic as it sounds. by RustinHWright · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Once I started RTFAing the repeated comments about concentration and ability to shift modes starting getting my attention. Modern pentathalon started out as a way to simulate certain kinds of combat, and, for its time, made quite a bit of sense. I'm willing to bet that we'll see some very serious people start to get into this as a way to hone skills used for activities that aren't cheesy at all. A way to test one's ability to think strategically and tactically while out of breath and in pain is a damn good thing for anybody who is expected to function in combat. Even first responders in non-violent professions might gain from this.

    Gotta say, not for me, to say the least, but I'll be very curious to see how this evolves and what kinds of people end up getting into it.

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  9. Re:That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever hea by Chrisje · · Score: 5, Funny

    They can't televise it!

    The First Rule of Chess Club is You Do Not Talk about Chess Club!

  10. Re:That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever hea by Tom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think it's ridiculous at all. Anyone trained in any martial art (not just eastern, count boxing, fencing, etc. as well) will probably agree.

    Keeping your senses and your ability to think during a fight is anything but trivial, and requires a lot of training.

    Most regular people would probably have trouble just remembering how the pieces move after a few minutes of fighting, with all the adrenaline pumping and your whole body in "I have no time for thinking" mode.

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  11. Self desturcting sports by Lazypete · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The funny thing about this sports is that a champion is bound to loose its title quickly, the more the champion boxe, the worst he must be getting at chess. Since after a year or two having your face punched turn your brain into molasses...

  12. Prior Art by belthize · · Score: 5, Funny

          Sort of. 20 some odd years ago my room mate considered combining rugby and chess and called it "full contact chess".

          We played beer chess instead. Somebody had a 4'x4' chess board. Pawns were Mickey's, rooks were Fosters, queens were a bottle of wine etc. Every time a chess piece was taken you had to drink it. We rarely lost; against the beer drinker types we just out played them, against the chess player types we'd trade down pieces early and out drink them.

          Simpler times ...

    Belthize

  13. Re:Actually, this may not be as idiotic as it soun by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Looking at the pentathlon, it seems interesting, but kind of a downer that they put shooting, and fencing as the first two events. I am of course assuming that they listed the events in the order in which they are usually done. It would be much more challenging to try and steady a gun after running and biking, than at the beginning of the competition. Which is why I find the biathlon kind of interesting. I have enough trouble aiming a gun that accurately (although I've only ever shot pellet guns, which are notorious for bad aim). I can't imagine having good aim after cross country skiing for any length of time.

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  14. Re:Actually, this may not be as idiotic as it soun by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's not as hard as you would think. You can't hold a rifle pointed at a target anyways, no one can. You hold it so it traces a predictable pattern that intersects your target, then time your squeeze so everything comes together. Personally, my muscles tend to move my sight in a squashed figure 8 pattern. When you're tired and out of breath, the pattern will get larger, but it will remain the same shape, and be just as predictable.

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  15. Re:That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever hea by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think it's ridiculous at all. Anyone trained in any martial art (not just eastern, count boxing, fencing, etc. as well) will probably agree.

    Keeping your senses and your ability to think during a fight is anything but trivial, and requires a lot of training.

    Most regular people would probably have trouble just remembering how the pieces move after a few minutes of fighting, with all the adrenaline pumping and your whole body in "I have no time for thinking" mode.

    Perhaps ironically for a geek, I don't know what it's like to be good at chess, but I do know what it's like to be good at fighting.

    A lot of intelligent people aren't good at fighting because they overanalyze a fight. It's helpful to watch other people fight and analyze, but in a fight you have to be in the moment. I knew an architect who was very physically powerful, but never able to fight well because he tried to think strategically during a fight. He was always thinking, if I do this, then he'll do that, then I'll do this etc. A cunning fighter is one who reacts in the moment, in a way that is both appropriate and unpredictable.

    "Thinking" in a fight -- if it can be called that -- is not sequential, nor is it analytical. It's more wholistic and intuitive. Even a swift reasoner cannot project future scenarios fast enough to keep up with the present, and being in the moment is critical. The reason the average person can't remember the details of a fight is that he isn't paying attention. He's thinking about the past ("that punch hurt") or the future ("I'm going to get murdered.") An experienced fighter is aware of every detail without being stuck on any one.

    Although I can't say from experience, I wonder if this means being good at chess isn't a little like being good at sparring. My faults as a chess player are like the faults of my architect friend as a fighter; although I have formidable analytical skills, they aren't a match for somebody who moves with the swift assurance of being familiar with the scenario. I spend too much time dealing with the shambles of my "strategy" to take advantage of the opportunities my opponent's moves create.

    As far as silliness is concerned, all sports are silly if you look at them the right way. Chess and barehand fighting are individual sports pared down to the minimally interesting essentials: two individuals striving to gain advantage over each other. Perhaps arm wresting is more basic, but not sufficiently complex to invite tactical analysis.

    In any case, Chess Boxing is clearly a sport tailor made for Russia.

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  16. Re:That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever hea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They can't televise it!

    The First Rule of Chess Club is You Do Not Talk about Chess Club!

    Oddly enough, The First Rule of Date Club is also You Do Not Talk About Chess Club.

  17. Re:Actually, this may not be as idiotic as it soun by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That is best, but you don't always have the leisure to pick your shots from a position of rest. When you're doing sprint drills across a field with an assault rifle in your hands and you have no chance to catch your breath before taking your shot and continuing to sprint, you need alternative techniques that will accommodate the physical condition you're in.

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