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Google Launches Lively, an Avatar Based 3D World

no.good.at.coding writes "Google has launched a Windows-only, in-browser (you need to install a client first, though) 3D avatar worldLively — that you can embed in websites and use to interact with other people. It's not as expansive as Second Life yet, but expect things to get better."

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  1. Re:The Shark... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The term "jump the shark" is so yesterday. The current correct term is "nuking the fridge".

  2. Re:The Shark... by mikkl666 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I recommend a paper clip.

  3. "Review" on Ars Technica by dk90406 · · Score: 5, Informative
  4. Re:Nuts by MisterBlueSky · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are there that many people into dolls and make-believe or are there too many people who are too depressed just being themselves?

    Yes, many people are into what you call "make-believe" and what other people call fantasy or fiction. It's inherent to human nature. Novels, movies, games and comics are all 'make-believe': creating a fantasy world. The next logical step is to make such a fantasy world shared between more people. This is what a 'game' like SL or Lively does.

  5. Re:Nuts by rs79 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I mean, it is kind-of like chatroom v. 2.0 or something along those lines. But when it gets to be where you spend more time living in an imaginary dreamworld, then it's time to seek help."

    Yeah, I hear there's a chatroom just for that.

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  6. Re:Nuts by skoaldipper · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think something is wrong with my lively account.

    The first time I logged in, some funny looking feller who looked like Colonel Sanders greeted me, "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the google. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden to sedulously avoid it, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you, inexorably, here."

    So, I punched him in the hoohaw with my Papa Smurf avatar and quickly logged off. Is thing still beta?

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  7. If we rephrase it by unity100 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    we can easily say "apparently there are enough people who are sensitive enough to be able to empathize even through a virtual avatar in an online world".

    the way i see it, many of the people who label the online world as 'virtual' are rather emotionally challenged people. there is nothing 'virtual' in the online world. there is a person behind that avatar, just like you. s/he can make you laugh, make you angry, sad, engage in heated up philosophical conversation, or do stuff together. stuff done with other people in an online environment is no less valuable than stuff done in an offline environment. you can go get drunk in a local pub while talking or you can get drunk in front of the computer talking with same people the same stuff. there is no difference other than physical proximity.

    if you NEED physical proximity to be able to feel connected with people, then i'd say that thats a sign of 'emotionally challengedness' in the form of weak empathy capability.

    1. Re:If we rephrase it by unity100 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's such a delusion. People you talk to online are not anything like what you think of them. You're not interacting with a person, you're interacting with your own imagination, seeded with a few select facts or fictions from someone else.

      do you think the people you talk with in offline (real) life, are the way they are, the way they talk with you ? how many people you have met in your entire life, that were just as they seemed to be, after you got to know him ?

      in 'real' life you subject people to the test of time to know them better. only after some time, you can get to know someone. continuous exposure in a mutual environment eventually makes who they really are to come out.

      this rule doesnt change in the real world. if there is someone that believes someone whom s/he knows from online communities for just 1-2 months is the way s/he is, you can easily say that that person is naive.

      because same goes for online environments. its infallible. constant mutual online activity with a person eventually makes who they are to come out.

      If you really do feel connected to people you meet online, then you're actually not connected to anyone, and you're creating imaginary friends, like someone in a sensory deprivation chamber having lucid dreams.

      excuse me, but you already are in a deprivation chamber. everyone is. each conscious mind is a deprivation chamber, and the deprivation is only remedied by the extent of usage of sensory organs and interaction with the environment.

      by definition, you use the same organs while seeing a bloke and sending voice signals to him on a street corner, and while video chatting with someone on the internet. there is no difference in technical terms.

      each interaction produces impulses to your brain through your sensory organs, and invokes certain thoughts and emotions. and those thoughts and emotions are real. they do not differentiate between laughing to a joke told in a pub or a joke told online.

      again, time is the only defining factor for personality of any person. nothing else. a person you know from 'real' life is no different than any person you know from online, until they persist through the test of time. and time passes in equal pace both online and offline. sometimes even faster online, as there is more interaction in online world due to the ease of use.

  8. Re:The Shark... by xtracto · · Score: 5, Funny


    "It seems to me that you are searching for porn"...

    My I suggest you the "Kleenex Ultra Smooth" link?

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  9. Re:The Shark... by nine-times · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seems right to me. I get that we, as computer geeks, are supposed to love the idea of having 3D virtual worlds, alternate/virtual reality, etc. But can someone please explain to me what benefits these things actually have? Whenever any of these are announced, it always seems like either (a) there's nothing to do; or (b) they allow you to do anything, but it's pretty complex to do anything interesting, and the world ends up filled with penises.

    I can never figure out what you're supposed to do with these things if you're not a pervert.

  10. Re:The Shark... by glueball · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I agree with the social site disappointment.

    I use a 3D site (expo3d.com) to hold conferences with customers on product updates and use the 3D feature to really demonstrate what I'm saying, holding up objects, pointing at on the object with my avatar and can use my voice to offer more commentary than texting could accomplish. Texting is sooo 1990's. Use your voice. It really helps.

    In my business, some customer updates are mandatory. We used to fly people in and out for the update meetings but now we can, for the smaller updates, use this software and in 15 minutes be done. We still all meet face to face a couple of times a year but it's not a monthly obligation.

    We've had 100-200 customers routinely join us for our updates. We place our own teams in the audience to answer questions one-on-one via text or voice. We circulate documents. We post advertisements. And the customers love it.

    So I've found a way to save money using this type of application with no perverts or gambling.

  11. Re:The Shark... by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 5, Funny

    no, a purple chimp would be better.

  12. Re:Nuts by somersault · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do not try to comprehend the idea of a Google 20% application leaving Beta. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth: there is no Beta.

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  13. Re:The Shark... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    We have met the 1 tenth of 1% and he is us.

  14. Re:The Shark... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    As far as I'm concerned they just did. When you install this, it installs a Windows *service* called Google Updater... set for automatic, running all the time, even when the "game" isn't running. I *DESPISE* that.

    This is #1 on my "hate" list for apps. Followed closely be "calling home without asking", "not asking what directory to install to", and "installing widgets in the system tray".

  15. Re:Nice by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If more companies built stores in SL and sold real goods through it,

    holy crap why? I can buy what I want from a good old 2D website faster than some half assed second life store that is impossible to navigate or get any real info about what I am buying.

    Last thing I want is to go to a "virtual" dell store and wander around, I want to find the server, click on the options and click on buy.

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  16. Re:Requires Winblows by Miseph · · Score: 5, Informative

    We've all tired of posts with no redeeming qualities beyond bashing Microsoft, particularly in those cases where they haven't actually done anything.

    Google, Microsoft's main competitor at the moment for those keeping track, released a tool to do something of dubious value to much of the Slashdot community. They have opted to release the tool on Windows first, probably because it has a larger install base than all competitors combined, but have stated there will be Mac and Linux versions "real soon now". Precisely which part of this story involves Microsoft doing something that could or should be criticized?

    I'm all about making fun of Microsoft when they do something stupid, and Dog knows it happens plenty, but sadly they've done nothing mockworthy in this story.

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  17. Re:Real sharing by ibbie · · Score: 5, Informative

    If there is an active open source project working on virtual worlds, we'd like to know, too.

    You mean like this?

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  18. Ok, honestly... by bill_kress · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know that it's cool now to hate google and all, but I have NEVER seen anything from them that I didn't admire at least somewhat, and for most things I find them unbeatable.

    If they came out with gClippy I'd have to give it a try, and I'll give you 3:1 odds that it would be surprisingly useful.