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Linux For Housewives. XP For Geeks.

Talinom writes "ZDNet has an article sure to raise the hackles of any self-respecting geek. They report that housewives buying small laptops like the Asus EE are causing Linux usage for that demographic to spike. A reporter for Tech-On states that 'Retailers and contract manufacturers in Taiwan say that novice PC users there, like students and housewives, tend to buy the Linux version of the Eee PC701, while geeks go for Windows XP.'"

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  1. Re:Different reason by rvw · · Score: 4, Informative

    The geeks are buying the XP version to install their own flavor of Linux as a dual-boot?

    Then they are stupid geeks. The Windows version has a smaller disk, so it makes more sense to buy the Linux version.

  2. Re:Not sure it applies here as much by mikkl666 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, I lived in Taiwan for quite a while, and I think Windows is quite common among geeks because (for no clear reason) MSN Messenger has become the No. 1 communication vehicle among the young folks. No one ever asked my ICQ No. or mail address, just my MSN name. Which I still don't have, by the way.

  3. It's true in my family by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    My 40-something housewife non-geek sister called me last month and told me all about her cute new Asus ePC. She loves it. I have no idea where she heard about it or what lead her to purchase it. I was really so surprised I forgot to ask. She's visiting me this week and I'm looking forward to her demonstration.

  4. Re:Not sure it applies here as much by gmack · · Score: 4, Informative

    MSN works fine on Linux. I use Pidgin (formerly GAIM) to chat with work contacts and push them to google messanger when MSN goes down.

    No MS Windows needed.
       

  5. Re:Reasoning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    The sort of games you can play on an Eee PC aren't the sort of games you need Windows XP for. It has an Intel GMA950. You can run zsnes/dgen/etc pretty well. pcsx and mupen work ok at 640x480. Neverball and PlanetPenguin are playable at the same resolution, although the framerate gets a little low if there are too many transparencies. Extreme Tux Racer is too much for the embedded graphics processor.

    If you're thinking of installing Windows to play Crysis or Portal then forget it.

  6. Re:Hmm.. by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 2, Informative

    Really?. There are others... The Bobby Tables one is just very very well known.

  7. Re:Not sure it applies here as much by loutr · · Score: 2, Informative

    In France MSN Messenger is the #1 IM network too, but that doesn't keep us geeks from using Pidgin/Adium under linux/macosx.

  8. Re:BLASPHEMY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    the Windows version is cheaper, or so I've heard.

    You heard *very* wrong.

    When comparing identical hardware, the Windows version is much more expensive. When you look at the model numbers, the Linux and Windows versions are the same price, but the Linux version comes with a much larger SSD.

  9. Re:BLASPHEMY! by LandDolphin · · Score: 3, Informative

    I tried went to look up the prices, because it seemed odd to me for Windows to be Cheaper. According to the website below, it is not.

    http://www.morecomputers.com/subcat.asp?drilldown=Notebooks&query=Laptops&shopval=Laptops&ModeRun=Left

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  10. Re:BLASPHEMY! by LandDolphin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Look at the Product Features:

    Internal 4GB SSD based Hard Drive
    Intel 900Mhz Mobile ULV 512MB DDR2 Memory
    Intel 910GML Chipset
    7" LCD screen with 800x480 pixels resolution
    10/100 LAN WiFi b/g
    Built-in 300k pixel webcam
    Built-in stereo speaker and microphone
    Interfaces include SD card slot, 3x USB 2.0, Mic and Headphone Jack, VGA Out
    Ultimate Speed - 10 Sec Bootup, 5 Sec Shutdown
    Windows XP compatible
    Optional USB Based External Optical Drive
    Optional Carry Case
    3 hours of battery life
    Measures (WxHxD) 225 x 21-35 x 165 mm
    Weighs 890g


    Who is "video games and download a bajillion 'utilities'", geek or housewife? That is unless your talking about games from 1998.

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  11. Re:BLASPHEMY! by sykkn · · Score: 1, Informative

    In respect to the Eee PC 701, the Windows XP and Linux versions are both priced the same. The Windows XP version, however, comes with only one year warranty where the Linux version comes with two. So you trade one year of warranty for a Windows XP License.

  12. Re:BLASPHEMY! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

    The last thing they want to do is wait for Windows to load, defrag for an hour, update the antivirus, and then start using facebook...

    Ugh, tell me about it. We had to buy a Vista laptop for my wife to run a medical practice management app, and it's a dual-core system with 2GB of memory. By all accounts it's a fast computer, but by the time Vista finishes booting, all of the "update me!" dialogs have been clicked, and it's actually ready to use, she's cussing at the thing.

    By contrast, my Eee PC 4G goes from powered-off to using Firefox in under 30 seconds. It actually ships with an antivirus app if you must have that weekly display of pointlessness, but it doesn't run by default. What's not to like about a system that's infinitely more usable than the much faster, more expensive computer sitting next to it?

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  13. Re:BLASPHEMY! by Sporkinum · · Score: 3, Informative

    Which is why my wife's system has been linux for the last 5 years. Was Mandrake/Mandriva for first 4, and then Kubuntu for the last/current year. (couldn't get Mandriva to install on new box). She loves how stable it is, and really has no needs other than web, email, photos, and office. Throw in Mahjonng and Solitare and that's a conplete PC as far as she is concerned.

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  14. Re:BLASPHEMY! by mischi_amnesiac · · Score: 2, Informative

    Round based games from today might just even work with them if the graphic is not too fancy. I'm thinking of Games like http://galciv2.com/. Here are even more great games that run on the eee: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/list:games

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  15. Re:Not sure it applies here as much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    aMSN over Ubuntu does fine for my children

  16. Re:Year Of the Linux Desktop by rts008 · · Score: 2, Informative

    If it is available for the distro you're using, give 'keytouch' a try. Works great for my MS Natural Multimedia 1.0A keyboard on kubuntu. (I've been using keytouch with Kubuntu since 6.04 version and have never had any trouble with all the extra buttons not working)

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  17. Re:Geeks can install Linux over it by qopax · · Score: 4, Informative

    See, that logic fails as soon as you realize that the linux version has the larger drive.

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  18. Re:BLASPHEMY! by cp.tar · · Score: 3, Informative

    HP makes decent laptops.

    The key is — and I've let all my friends know it — to buy a Linux-based laptop, then install Windows yourself and just snag the drivers from the HP website.
    Cheaper, better, and only takes a little while.

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  19. Re:Geeks can install Linux over it by Yfrwlf · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's shocking, I know, and AC may have just been joking, but I'll explain it any way in case someone out there doesn't know.

    That's normally the way it's always been, the Windows version gets some kind of perk(s) which ultimately makes it the cheaper version, even though because of the cost of the license it should of course be more expensive. Like on Dell's sit for example, somehow they end up giving these amazing perks to the Windows versions like a bigger hard drive, making the Windows one the better/cheaper deal.

    For the EEE, for once, the Linux version is always either cheaper ($50 cheaper in one scenario on New Egg, which means they were charging $50 for the Vista license), or if it's the same price, the Linux version has better hardware. ACTUAL FAIR COMPETITION! Check it out yourself if you don't believe me! :)

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  20. Re:BLASPHEMY! by mistahkurtz · · Score: 2, Informative

    !insightful

    you have a choice between XP and Linux. it's in TFA, and on any site that sells them.

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