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Sweden's Snoop Law Targets Russia

praps writes "There's been much controversy lately over Sweden's new law which allows the signal intelligence agency (FRA) to monitor all data traffic within the country's borders. The Swedish government has kept curiously quiet about the new law's objectives but sources close to the intelligence community say that Russia is the prime target. '"80 percent of Russia's contacts with large parts of the world travel through cables in Sweden. That is the core of the issue," said one source.'" Related: EuroConcerned writes "Many things are happening in Sweden after the new legislation on wiretapping has been voted. TorrentFreak has an article on what's going on, including massive protests and Google moving their servers away from the country."

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  1. now that's funny by negRo_slim · · Score: 5, Funny
    FTFA:

    His email was leaked to the press by another party colleague and Andrén was later heard on a recorded phone-call exclaiming that his secrecy of correspondence had been broken and that it was âoeGestapo methodsâ. Dude, you just voted for a bill that allows all emails to be read and all phone calls to be recorded. Live with it!

    I am glad to see their politicians are as inept as my politicians!

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    1. Re:now that's funny by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was thinking about the same. Personally, I'd want that person removed from his office. He voted quite obviously on a bill he neither read, understood, nor understood the implications thereof. How the fuck does he DARE to vote on it?

      Seriously, if politicians had to survive in private business, they'd be fired on the spot.

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      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    2. Re:now that's funny by init100 · · Score: 4, Informative

      He voted quite obviously on a bill he neither read, understood, nor understood the implications thereof.

      He isn't the only one. Another one literally said I like signals intelligence, so although I really don't know anything about this bill, I'll vote Yes.

      The stupidity is staggering.

  2. Excellent by dahitokiri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's good to know people aren't sitting back and are actually protesting this law in person. Americans could probably learn something from that... Google checking out of the country definitely packs a punch too, even if there isn't much of an economic impact.

  3. How much do you think the US paid for this? by bill_kress · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not trying to be a "USA SUCKS" guy (in this case). We obviously have legitimate concerns with Russia and if we aren't doing everything we can to monitor their traffic, we're really screwing up in the intelligence arena (again).

    So, if we decided to monitor them, we'd go for the choke point, a place where all the Russian traffic flows, right? Of course Sweeden is a fairly open society (as opposed to ours) and I'm guessing they wouldn't attempt to help us without doing at least the bare minimum "above the covers".

    So I suppose I'd be awfully surprised if we weren't behind all this.

    Or if you think about it from the other direction--what use would Sweden itself have for intelligence about Russia beyond that of selling/giving it to governments that could do something with it?

    1. Re:How much do you think the US paid for this? by eddy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sweden has always been passing on intelligence to the US. We've lost people to get you the intelligence too. No doubt the laws which forbade FRA from snooping in cables have caused the stream of quality intelligence to the US to dry up, and I'm sure the US put pressure on our officials to get back on track.

      That said, I believe this is mostly misdirection, but that's me.

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    2. Re:How much do you think the US paid for this? by yoprst · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And this gets modded insightful... Slashdot populace ain't getting better with time. Finland (unlike Sweden) would have a lot of use for that intelligence, because Finland, unlike, you know, Sweden, actually shares a border with Russia, and suffers from Russian crime (and vice versa, but let's pretend it doesn't happen). We don't hear about Finland snooping on Russia. We also don't hear about Sweden snooping on Russia and passing their data to Finland. What we hear is Sweden working as free intel service for US. In the end the result will be a pissed of Russia, and a warm smile from US administration. Truly an improvement of Swedish security.

  4. Re:It's NOT within Sweden's borders by mr_mischief · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the concern in Sweden is about traffic that crosses the borders but which has one endpoint in the country. If you can spy on any traffic crossing the borders, that means that Swedes who communicate internationally or who communicate with other Swedes using international communications infrastructure are just as eligible.

    Is there some protection for two Swedes in Sweden who use, for example, Slashdot to communicate?

  5. Help the Pirate Party by kramer2718 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is so refreshing to see a political party focused on electronic freedom and sane intellectual property laws.

    Help the Pirate Party fight this and other crazy technology laws by donating

  6. Re:From the Torrentfreak blog: by cptnapalm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "the politicians aren't going to budge by the looks of it"

    This surprises you? The EU Constitution was routinely rejected in Europe, so they call it a treaty to get around that pesky voting thing. Then Ireland's people get to vote on it and reject it, so despite the requirement that it be unanimous, they have no intentions of stopping.

  7. Some nuggets from the Swedish articles by MaulerOfEmotards · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since the references from TFA are mostly in Swedish, I thought I'd translate and share some of the most interesting points.

    It should be noted that while the FRA law has been a source of intense debate both within the parliament and population at large, the governing parties have apparently made a point of as far as possible not mentioning it, neither before or after passing the bill. Also, before the bill was passed, the parliamentarians of the coalition parties were instructed to vote the party way (which is unconstitutional) which caused several embers to resign their positions in protest.

    TFA notes that when the official silence has been broken, be it in response to the massive criticism or in private but revealed communication, the politicians in charge appear to range from inexcusably ignorant of the subject to criminally incompetent. As an example, it mentions Gunnar Andrén, the leader of the People's Party (folkpartiet) and a member of the liberal ruling coalition, who in a private email to fellow party member and parliamentarian Camilla Lindberg, who went against the internal instructions and voted against the law, expressed anger and recrimination.

    This letter was publicised by Miss Lindberg's partner, a fact which made Mr. Andrén lash out in rage, claiming revealing a private letter was "Gestapo- and Stazi like" and "in violation of the Sanctity of Letters" act, a Swedish law that states that it is illegal by any party but the intended recipient to intercept or partake of the contents of a closed letter.

    The irony, and what makes an incredibly arse out of him, is evident in the comments on the Swedish article (http://www.politikerbloggen.se/2008/07/03/9359/), a sample:

    * "Smart guy, first voting for FRA and then getting pissed when someone does the same on him"
    * "the yes-man Andrén is pissed about something he thinks only FRA and the government can do, the right to read others' private mail"
    * "I agree with Gunnar Andrén that it is Gestapo methods to read others' letters or tapping phones. Now we know what GA wants in Sweden since he voted yes for FRA"

    1. Re:Some nuggets from the Swedish articles by init100 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      * "Smart guy, first voting for FRA and then getting pissed when someone does the same on him"

      This reminds me of another such episode in the FRA drama. Immediately after the bill passed the vote, some members of the pretty politically incorrect forum Flashback started a thread that purported to monitor the surveillance agency FRA, especially its employees. In it, they scoured publicly available sources, such as the FRA web site, Google, Facebook, MySpace, etc, for information on FRA employees, and posted what they found in the thread.

      Shortly afterward, the FRA director cried out in the press against the publishing of "protected identities of secret FRA operatives" on the web. He complained that it was unfair and that his employees had a right to privacy. He apparently didn't see any hypocrisy of complaining about the lack of privacy for his own employees while taking away the privacy of everyone else.

      Besides, what real "secret operatives with protected identities" have their own Facebook or MySpace page with their real name and FRA email address? Maybe he should inform his "secret agents" about not publishing their personal information on publicly accessible web sites. Not to mention the FRA web page, which contained a thorough organizational scheme with names, etc. He should probably clean up on his own doorstep before crying out in the press that someone had looked at their own web site.

      The whole story was beyond funny.