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Google Lively Review

joc1985 writes "An objective review of Google Lively after a few hours of playing around. It seems to be a bad copy of Second Life. Somehow all the rooms are crowded, and porn has made its way in there already"

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  1. Why am I not impressed? by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Billions of dollars in capital and they give us a retread of AlphaWorld from 1996? What's next, GoogleMUD?

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    1. Re:Why am I not impressed? by Minupla · · Score: 4, Funny

      That'd be cool. GoogleMUSH! @desc me=A grue. He is likely to eat you.;@adesc me=@emit The Grue pours water on your lantern.

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    2. Re:Why am I not impressed? by Timex · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Read the article again, and pay close attention to the context that the author used your excerpt in.

      As far as the adults go, it's not a question of needing to be protected from it... Most adults are perfectly aware of where to go to get it if they want it.

      The point that the article's author was making was simply that there was no discernible means of verifying age, and since most states in the US have laws on the books stipulating a legal age to obtain sexual material, failure to have limits in place to prevent minors from getting that stuff is illegal...

      Personally, I believe there's a time and a place for everything, especially sexual material.

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  2. An opinionated an biased review by MLopat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is hardly an objective review. Then again the Slashdot submitter is also the author of the blog...

    When you read comments like "if it wasn't for the logo at the top left you wouldn't even know it was owned and operated by Google. The page is blend with no much color or style" it really makes you wonder. Does it matter that Google didn't brand it everywhere they could like other companies? In classical Google fashion, they took a simplified approach, which itself is a form of Google branding (just look at google.com)

    Then the reviewer goes on "It is 100% centered around the mouse, this for me is a horrible defect that must be solved immediately. I happen to know every keyboard shortcut known to man kind (sic) and I absolutely hate the mouse. I am sure there are many people like me out there. " Well good for you buddy. And great research you've done there in assuming that everyone else is just like you.

    Finally he concludes with saying he found "several Sex oriented rooms". A quick glance through the room index shows maybe a dozen of the 1000+ rooms that are listed there have a sexual theme. Seems like a pretty good ratio considering the amount of porn to be found on the internet and people's computers in relationship to the rest of the content on the web.

    But then again, remember this blog is from "The Random thoughts of a Christian IT Professional."

    1. Re:An opinionated an biased review by Wooky_linuxer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He has a point on porn: the terms of service forbid it, much to my dismay, I must say. But then, it is open for anyone older than 13 so I see no way Google could get around that.

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    2. Re:An opinionated an biased review by Otter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Besides the fact that guy obviously isn't a native English speaker, "several" and "maybe a dozen" seem pretty in line to me. His point seems to be that Google isn't being as tight with it as they are with YouTube, which is certainly true (although I'd suspect that's a result of pre-takeover YouTube policies being carried on by Google). It's not a matter of any concern to me, but its his opinion. And it's not like adding keyboard shortcuts would eliminate mouse usage, as you seem to think.

    3. Re:An opinionated an biased review by Phurge · · Score: 5, Insightful

      too funny. Google censoring porn? Google is the gateway to internet porno.

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    4. Re:An opinionated an biased review by digitig · · Score: 5, Funny

      But are your thoughts random?

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    5. Re:An opinionated an biased review by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd suspect that's a result of pre-takeover YouTube policies being carried on by Google

      If that were true, what's the reason for the Google Video policies, then?

      I suspect the reason for filtering adult material has more to do with good business sense than anything else. If you allow adult materials, then your site is likely to become a haven for such materials rather than achieving its original goal. Sort of like how the various free internet backup and file sharing solutions became havens for warez rather than achieving a solid business goal.

    6. Re:An opinionated an biased review by Crayon+Kid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Are you kidding me? Porn the ultimate mark of success. The fact that Lively has it before it has even taken off properly makes it like an uber stamp of approval. Yes yes.

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    7. Re:An opinionated an biased review by ndansmith · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, but not until about 3 days goes by.

    8. Re:An opinionated an biased review by __aagbwg300 · · Score: 5, Funny

      But are your thoughts random?

      Depends on the seed.

    9. Re:An opinionated an biased review by hansamurai · · Score: 4, Funny

      Check out that moose.

    10. Re:An opinionated an biased review by Inner_Child · · Score: 3, Funny

      Not if he's Debian-based.

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    11. Re:An opinionated an biased review by Nexus7 · · Score: 3, Funny

      You say:
            "... Yes yes."

      ITYM:
            "Yes yyesss yyeeeeeeSSSSSS... don't stop... oh oh yes yesSSS YYEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!"

      HTH.

  3. Had to say it... by pete_norm · · Score: 5, Funny

    Somehow all the rooms are crowded and porn has made its way in there already"

    What more could you ask for???

    1. Re:Had to say it... by AkaKaryuu · · Score: 3, Funny

      Let's be honest... Google has been the starting point of porn searches for years now. They are just now presenting it to their users in a 3d environment! Technological advancement at it's finest!

  4. "Porn has made its way in there already" by sakdoctor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You write that as if it's a bad thing.

    1. Re:"Porn has made its way in there already" by saider · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not if the couple is married!

      I've wondered if there could be a market for "Christian porn" that addresses all the issues they have with it.

      1) Depict married couples in racey and stimulating scenes.
      2) Provide a system that ensures that the actors are not exploited.
      3) ???
      4) Profit!!!

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    2. Re:"Porn has made its way in there already" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How do you enjoy watching married couple porn without coveting the guy's wife?

    3. Re:"Porn has made its way in there already" by SQLGuru · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, many Christian faith have as a fundamental belief the "Priesthood of the believer" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priesthood_of_all_believers which allows that the individual has the right to interpret the Bible as they see fit (and preach that interpretation). So, some will consider it adultery and others will consider it "admiring the works of God". So, there you go.....maybe it is, maybe it isn't. You need to search your own concscience and proceed from there.

      Layne

    4. Re:"Porn has made its way in there already" by FuckTheModerators · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nah. Married male gay pr0n would run afoul of "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's ass."

  5. I tried it yesterday. by Paranatural · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It was slow. It was clunky. The interface was pretty disappointing. Hell, even the 'Avatar choosing' part was badly done. I couldn't tell if I was supposed to be designing my own somewhere or just 'using someone elses'. It seems to be a half-baked beta indeed.

    1. Re:I tried it yesterday. by mxs · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And worst of all, it's not apparent that there is a direction this is going in, or a usage that would not be a complete timewaster or done better elsewhere. Right now, you have a basic "take these 3d objects, slap them in a room, tack some animations on, maybe display a picture here, a youtube video there, and pretend there is something oh-so-cool that everybody is missing.

      It reminds me a lot of VRML, 'ca 1997.

  6. Re:FP by Ron_Fitzgerald · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Goatse I guess I can understand, Rick Rolls are damn funny but really, is there a huge endorphin rush that comes from saying 'first post' that I am missing? I would think that after the first thousand times it really would not be fun for even the most childish of people.

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  7. Serious accusation by Junta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It seems to be a bad copy of Second Life.

    That's a severe accusation. I tried Second Life. I thought of it as all the design 'quality' and intelligence of myspace, now with 3D goodness...

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  8. Definitely a beta by Dmala · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, calling it a beta is being generous. There are a lot of interface quirks and bugs to work out, and the content (as far as avatars, furniture, clothes, etc.) definitely feels more like a sample of what will be available. Once they open it up to user created content, I imagine there will be no shortage of "stuff". FWIW, I didn't really have the connection problems the reviewer had. The whole thing thing gets a little laggy in a crowded room, especially if the room is full of junk, but I didn't have any problems getting in.

    As far as the sex themed rooms, they seemed pretty tame to me, at least for now. (Uh, not that I checked them out or anything.) You're limited to streaming videos from YouTube, so you can't show anything that wouldn't pass muster there. You can also display static images in a "picture frame", but the frames seems to be pretty broken at the moment. They seem to only display a small portion of the image, regardless of the resolution. So, at least for the moment, it's pretty much impossible to display anything pornographic. I imagine once they open it up to user created content, though, it will become yet another haven for furries.

  9. Platform Support by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Informative

    I looked at this the other day and it seemed to claim to be a "Windows only" service. My Windows system was busy at the time, so I didn't investigate further and it was unclear if they planned on supporting other platforms in future. That's a non-starter in my book.

  10. Re:Bad copy? by Ron_Fitzgerald · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Direct hit to the nail head. I was truly let down with Second Life. I will even go back here and there to see if things changed but they never do.

    Last time I ventured into second life I searched for 'Beach' and was treated to a picture of a girl fingering herself.

    I had hopes for Second Life for businesses that I work with to have open house and virtual tours for lodging. I would not think about suggesting it anymore.

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  11. Re:Bad copy? by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does that imply that a copy of Second Life could somehow be good?

    It could be a good thing if it was an antimatter copy of Second Life, which was then brought into contact with the original Second Life.

  12. Youtube what? by ArIck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not as tight as Youtube policy? The only region where they may be 'tight' is in removing copyrighted material.... nothing else..... Just look at the recently uploaded, most viewed by day, week or maybe even month.... more than half of them involve some almost naked girl in the preview and sex based themes (although they may not contain actual sex scenes) but that still is not tight implementation....

    1. Re:Youtube what? by xZgf6xHx2uhoAj9D · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe I'm missing something, but that sounds like an extremely tight implementation. It sounds to me like "draw the line distinctly and allow everything up to that line". You said it yourself: " almost naked girl" with no actual sex scenes. It looks like they're allowing everything up to, but not over, the line.

  13. Re:Porn vs theology by darkrowan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Exactly.... Christian and Unbiased can't really be said in the same sentence and with a straight face.

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  14. For a 20% product, it's interesting; but... by Chyeld · · Score: 3, Interesting

    it's not interesting enough in itself for me to want to spend time playing with it.

    Looking at it in terms of a "20%" product that one of their engineers whipped out on their 'spare' time, it's fairly cool. I don't think they really expected the level of interest that would be shown though, or they would have held it back a bit longer for some more polish.

    It has been in testing before this current release. I can't remember which, but it was released to a university a year prior for their student community to play with.

    In a year, when it's been hammered on a bit more and Google either rolls it into a full fledged product or cuts it loose, I'll start paying more attention.

  15. Re:Legitimate Question: by Yaksha42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I believe we're using the term "nuked the fridge" now.

  16. Re:Bad copy? by moosesocks · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Second Life is not a game," Dwight replied authoritatively. "It is a multi-user virtual environment. It doesn't have points or scores; it doesn't have winners or losers."

    "Oh, it has losers."

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  17. Re:Porn vs theology by __aarcfd8085 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm pretty sure slashdoter and unbiased can't be said in the same sentence with a stright face either. In fact you have to work pretty hard to find anyone who is unbiased.

    ....apart from me I'm very un biased....

  18. Re:Bad copy? by kermit1221 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Last time I ventured into second life I searched for 'Beach' and was treated to a picture of a girl fingering herself."

    Yet if that were to happen to you in First Life you probably wouldn't complain.

  19. Re:Porn vs theology by Tophe · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's not the definition of unbiased. Perhaps the word you're looking for is unsolicited. Also you didn't call your review unbiased. You called it objective but your review is actually subjective. For future reference, objective = facts, subjective = opinions.

  20. Re:From the "who cares?" department by Tetsujin · · Score: 4, Funny

    So its a new Web 2.0-esque masturbation party where people can chat with avatars, instead of on AIM or god forbid, calling them on the phone.

    Do you have a lawn, and if so, any particular thoughts on where I should be in relation to it?

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  21. Re:Bad copy? by kv9 · · Score: 3, Funny

    [...] I was truly let down with Second Life [...] Last time I ventured into second life I searched for 'Beach' and was treated to a picture of a girl fingering herself.

    explain to me, in simple terms, how THAT is a bad thing?

  22. It's much simpler than that actually. by mweather · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Porn gets blocked by web filters. Google's business goals for Google Video and YouTube are to generate ad revenue. What content generates that revenue is irrelevant.