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Seagate Announces First 1.5TB Desktop Hard Drive

MojoKid writes "Seagate announced three new consumer-level hard drives today, which it claims are the 'industry's first 1.5-terabyte desktop and half-terabyte notebook hard drives.' The company claims that it is able to greatly increase the areal density of its drive substrates by utilizing perpendicular magnetic recording (PMR) technology that is capable of delivering more than triple the storage density of traditional longitudinal recording. Seagate's latest desktop-class hard drive, the Barracuda 7200.11, will be available in a 1.5TB capacity starting in August. The 3.5-inch drive is made up of four 375GB platters and has a 7,200-rpm rotational speed."

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  1. that's a lot by jgarra23 · · Score: 4, Funny

    of pr0n!

    1. Re:that's a lot by Izabael_DaJinn · · Score: 5, Funny

      You guys mod this funny, but it's a little known fact that the terabyte was actually named after Tera Patrick in deference to her online body of work.

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    2. Re:that's a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      And what a body it was!

    3. Re:that's a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have the same problem as you (no sense of humor). Usually I check if the comment was modded "funny" and it lets me know when to laugh. Laugh harder if it is at +5 funny. If the comment was posted recently and has not been moderated check again in a few minutes.

    4. Re:that's a lot by jaimz22 · · Score: 4, Funny

      SOOO was the petabyte named after Micheal Jackson?

    5. Re:that's a lot by MiniMike · · Score: 5, Funny

      Are you thinking of the pedobyte?

  2. great by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 4, Funny

    more storage for nerds to steal and archive the work I produced. Damn them.

    1. Re:great by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah. Bill Gates once said 500 GB of porn ought to be enough for anybody! Or something like that...

    2. Re:great by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 4, Funny

      I used to have this discussion a lot with my roomate. Do people really want hi-def porn? I thought it was the next inevitable development, but now that I think about it, I'm not sure if people want to see every wrinkle, mole, and cesarean scar. But I wouldn't really know...I only watch them for the articles.

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    3. Re:great by TheMiddleRoad · · Score: 4, Funny

      Blu-ray porn - $20 46" 1080p LCD TV - $1400 Highly detailed, oral lesbian closeup - priceless!

    4. Re:great by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually there is a lot of call for that, my latest film, 'Duck Minefield' featured 725 different duck trampling noises, however your rates are too high and we found it cheaper to pay someone to actually step on a duck several times.

    5. Re:great by chrispugh · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sir, I have analysed your film, and must insist that you stop with these lies. There are not 725 different noises. There are merely 25 noises repeated 29 times!

      With lies such as these, I am only left to ask: Are you a politician?

  3. Flash video by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 4, Funny

    For some reason, I can't stop thinking of this Flash cartoon I saw once about perpendicular hard drive recording, with cartoon dudes singing, "Get perpendicular! (Get perpendicular!)".

    ...I need a life.

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  4. Sounds killer! by DanWS6 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't wait to try out ReiserFS on it.

    1. Re:Sounds killer! by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hope you make backups. A corrputed 1.5 TB HDD with ReiserFS would be a bloody mess!

  5. yawn by bravecanadian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hard drives are getting bigger? Wow.. what news.. that hardly ever happens.

  6. What I really want... by Chordonblue · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How about a drive that advertises longevity instead of storage density. Seriously, I'd take half that storage if there was more assurance of my data integrity.

    Losing an 80 GB HD nearly broke my heart, I can't imagine what losing 1.5 TB would do...

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    1. Re:What I really want... by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Losing an 80 GB HD nearly broke my heart, I can't imagine what losing 1.5 TB would do...

      /.: the only place where one gets a broken heart from a hard drive instead of the opposite sex.

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    2. Re:What I really want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      So you're saying it's not how big it is, but it's how long it will last?

    3. Re:What I really want... by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Seriously, I'd take half that storage if there was more assurance of my data integrity.

      How does more assurance of your data integrity obviate the need for backups? In other words, how does your behavior change even with those assurances?

      Losing an 80 GB HD nearly broke my heart, I can't imagine what losing 1.5 TB would do...

      Yeah, it'd be nice not to have hard drive failures, but don't blame the drive manufacturers for your lack of backups. There is no data solution so good that it doesn't need redundancy in some manner.

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    4. Re:What I really want... by CopaceticOpus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Any data you truly care about needs to be on at least three devices, which are in at least two different buildings. Increasing the reliability of current drives won't be as helpful as bringing down prices so that multiple copies are more affordable. No amount of reliability will account for theft, fire, and human error.

      I use a set of three hard drives. One internal drive is in primary use. I back that up to an external drive frequently. Every couple weeks or so, I take that external drive to my remote location and swap it with another external drive, which then becomes my local backup.

      All copying is done with rsync to minimize drive wear and copy times. I just plug in the drive and run a batch file.

    5. Re:What I really want... by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      get yourself some RAID and that won't be an issue.

      RAID is not a substitute for backups!

      All hard disks, no matter how well-made they are, will fuck up one day. All of them. Every single one.

      Crucial corollaries:

      1) All file systems, no matter how well-made they are, will fuck up one day. All of them. Every single one. And that fuck up will be propagated to your RAID array.

      AND: 2) All RAID controllers, no matter how well-made they are, will fuck up one day. All of them. Every single one. And that fuck up will hose your RAID array.

      And let's not get into fires, theft, lightning / voltage spikes ...

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    6. Re:What I really want... by Chordonblue · · Score: 5, Interesting

      And what backup solutions exist for 1.5TBs today? Anything affordable, or just more RAID solutions (again, hard drives)?

      You can talk about backups all day long, but you know that when HP pushes out their latest consumer desktop with this drive, a home user is essentially buying a ticking time bomb.

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  7. Re:Moar datas plz! by Zymergy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When you start ripping your Blue-Ray HD Movies to store on a disk-less HDD share (at about 25GB to 50GB a pop) and then you conveniently convert them into mountable ISO images, you will then know why you bought that 1.5TB HDD.

    I have a buddy that does this and he uses a 1TB HDD to store the ripped & converted ISO HD movie images. He then mounts them over his wireless N network on his Multimedia PC attached to his living room's 60" HDTV or he mounts the images on his HD laptop anywhere he feels like round his home. Very cool, and he NEVER scratches or loses one of his Blue-Ray disks... (Thank You SlySoft and Elby)

  8. Are the increases slowing down? by Orange+Crush · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This could be a factor of my faulty memory, but a quick bit of googling didn't turn up anything useful. Is it just me, or has the rate at which storage capacity increases been slowing in recent years? It seems like we had a very rapid run-up to the 300gig mark (in a 3.5inch drive) then a much slower crawl to a terabyte and beyond.

  9. Re:Obligatory... by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 5, Funny

    The question is WHEN do Joe need that much space? Lets talk about this question in a couple of years...

    When Windows 7 comes out

  10. Re:4 platters by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Copy the following into your URL bar and press Enter. The code will allow you to compute the real amount.

    javascript:var capacity=window.prompt("Enter the capacity in TB.");capacity=capacity*0.9094947;alert("Real capacity is "+capacity+"TB");

  11. Warranty by Dracker · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, Seagate offers a 5-year warranty on their hard drives. It's a major reason why I usually buy from Seagate instead of going to Western Digital or Samsung, which usually only a offer 3-year warranty. Still, it's always best to keep backups. How nice the company is about replacements says nothing about how likely the drive is to fail.

  12. Re:Obligatory... by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ok, so they still have at least 5 years left.

  13. Re:Obligatory... by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sure. I got a 1 gig drive in 1995 that I thought would be all the digital storage I would ever need. Funny how that didn't work out the way I intended. Digital storage needs have been expanding rapidly for a long time. I don't see a slowdown anytime soon.

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  14. Re:4 platters by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Funny

    You forgot the little javascript equivalent of sudo rm -rf /.

    No such thing exists. However, you can hose your browser nicely if you run the following script:

    WARNING! Do not run the following script!

    javascript:while(true)alert("Ha ha!");

    (*ahem* I told you not to run it! :-P)

  15. Re:Moar datas plz! by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When you start ripping your Blue-Ray HD Movies to store on a disk-less HDD share (at about 25GB to 50GB a pop) and then you conveniently convert them into mountable ISO images, you will then know why you bought that 1.5TB HDD.

    What a waste. If he spent a little more time and remuxed them down to just the movies he could easily shave off half of that space. For example, the "I am Legend" blu-ray contains two complete copies of the movie, one of the theatrical cut and one of the director's cut - no seamless branching, two full copies that are 99% identical. Toss the theatrical cut, and all of the other junk and that disc which was nearly the full 50GB is down to ~18GB.

    Another common space-wasting practice on blu-ray is to include multiple uncompressed (lpcm, not even truehd or dts master audio) soundtracks, good for 5-6GB each, all of which can be tossed except the native track and then you can losslessly compress that down to 1-2GB. And then, of course, there is all the supplements which you watch, maybe once, if that. Throw those out the window, if you ever really want to watch them you can still pull the original disk out of storage.

    Another benefit to remuxing is that you can easily play the movie in any variety of free and semi-free players. Sometimes that can be extremely difficult with the original iso -- like animated movies where they actually render the scenes differently depending on the language track in order to localize things like signs and to keep the mouth movements in sync, typically seamless branching is used for these things, but the net effect is 30-40 different snippet files for each specific language that are not necessarily in any obvious order.

  16. poor math by dj245 · · Score: 4, Informative

    My math is crummy today. Its 426 minutes which is over 7 hours. But still quite a long time considering.

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  17. Re:Obligatory... by vidarh · · Score: 4, Insightful
    My wife just filled up 10GB in one day just by emptying some sd-cards for her camera after a couple of parties.. Stills, not video.

    So, yeah, people will need that much space.

    Consider HD video, photos at ridiculous resolution and tons of music.

  18. I'd love to turn you on by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    from the they-had-to-count-them-all- dept.

    So now they know how many bits it takes to fill the Albert Hall?

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  19. Re:Obligatory... by RulerOf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, obsessive video hoarders will use big hard drives just as you describe. Everybody else will pay Netflix or Comcast $20 a month for hassle free access to 10,000 times the content.

    I went with the hard drives. I find the seek times on Netflix to be unacceptable.

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  20. Re:Moar datas plz! by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 4, Informative

    Do you have a favorite piece(s) of software for doing all this?

    eac3to + various filters (some commercial, it comes with the Free ones) to take it apart and
    mkvmerge to put it together as a matroska file (mkvmerge is part of mkvtoolnix)
    one caveat is that mkvmerge can not handle dts files more complex than the regular DTS format on dvds, but it can do truehd. I always recompress to flac anyway, tends to be more efficient than either truehd or dts master audio and eac3to can do the recompression automatically.

    If you want to keep it in m2ts format than TsRemuxer is pretty good it will allow you to remux to either a single m2ts file or to a bare-bones blu-ray directory format.

    All above mentioned tools are easy to find in google.

  21. Re:Obligatory... by demonbug · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I always thought this was true as well, but in practice it is not. If I'm out taking photos of landscapes or whatnot, then yes, I get rid of all of the photos except the really good ones. When it comes to photos taken at parties and such, I find I usually hang on to most of them. Not because they are necessarily all that good, but because they capture a moment or an action (or blackmail content...) that I don't want to lose in spite of the imperfections. I find I really only delete the ones that are completely out of focus, blurred, or otherwise trashed beyond use.

    I don't take a whole lot of photos, but I do have probably 90-100 gigs of photos from the last two or three years.

  22. Re:Obligatory... by EvilIdler · · Score: 4, Funny

    Haha - that's so true. ~/Pictures/JobSecurity/ is up to 2GB by now, and that's just the mobile phone snaps!

  23. Re:Slow drives by jriskin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Good Source is Storage Review
    http://www.storagereview.com/php/benchmark/bench_sort.php

    The top 34 drives all do at least 54mb/sec MINIMUM and at least ~80MB/sec maximum. The top 15kRPM cheetah doing 82.7-135MB/sec.

    If i were to pull a number out of my ass I would say 78-135MB/sec (min/max) on the new 1.5TB drives.

    I would say if you have 750gig seagates and you are only getting 25MB/sec you have a bottleneck. Those drives should do a MINIMUM of at least 40MB/sec...