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Mandriva Linux 2009 Alpha 2 Released
AdamWill writes "The Mandriva Linux 2009 Spring Alpha 2, marking the first public pre-release of the upcoming Mandriva Linux 2009. This alpha introduces several significant changes, most obviously the inclusion of KDE 4 — 4.1 beta 2, specifically — as the default version of KDE, and the latest development version of GNOME, 2.23.4. The kernel has also been updated to release 2.6.26rc7. Another feature of interest to many users will be the addition of orphan package tracking (and optional automatic removal) to the urpmi package manager. Of course, many applications have been updated (although the default version of Mozilla Firefox is still currently 2.0.x), and most of the distribution has been rebuilt with a new GCC version, 4.3. Mandriva warns that this is a true alpha, likely to contain many bugs related to the new version of KDE. Please install it only in a test environment, and especially do not use it as an upgrade from any earlier Mandriva Linux release."
Well, it is a special occasion since 2008 is the year of linux on the desktop.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power lost.
Having taken a look at this latest release, I'm convinced that THIS IS THE YEAR that Linux will be the dominant desktop OS. Easy installation, advanced package manager, FREE!, and tons of community support; there's really no reason that it won't win the hearts and minds of users everywhere.
And with the cost of oil skyrocketing, people have less money to shell out to Microsoft, so a free OS is just what this ailing economy needs. It's surprising. Just a few months ago I was mentioning to someone just how good Linux was, but at that time he scoffed and said his grandmother still wouldn't be able to use it. However with this latest Mandriva Alpha (cool name) release, I think we're looking at a watershed moment here.
I'm looking forward to upgrading my systems post haste.
Would you be dicking around in a windows or mac alpha?
No, you wouldn't.
Back in the day, when I started using Linux, Mandrake (now Mandriva) was a great distribution that helped newbies like me hit the ground running. But now it seems like Ubuntu has gobbled up that market. Afaict, they don't have much of an "enterprise" market, and they don't have much of a "hacker" market... or am I wrong? What market is Mandriva serving these days?
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Not to start a distro flame war, but...
How is an alpha release of Mandriva news?
BECAUSE IT'S AWESOME! Name me another distro that:
- installs easily and with lots of options
- has integrated configuration utilities for GUI AND console that don't mind personal hacking of the config files
- has bleeding edge packages, if you choose
- doesn't exclude dev packages in pursuit of user friendliness
- has native packages for nearly every application you'll use
In other words, they provide a professional, up-to-date Linux environment that is simple enough for newbies, flexible enough for advanced users, and hassle-free for those of us who have no time to waste on configuration and compilation.
Also, it appears to be a rare example of a major distro that still supports multiple desktop environments out of the box.
I'm stoked for Mandriva 2009 and I'm glad to know it's coming...
That said, there's no way in hell I'm installing an alpha of it, so you may have a point. :) But at least I can start prepping my hard disk partitions! WOOO MANDRIVA FTW!!!
Buckle your ROFL belt, we're in for some LOLs.
Instead of just releasing another hosed major version?
Anyone remember back when it was Mandrake and it actually worked?
Just disrupt the deflector shield with a tachyon burst.
Congrats /. has really outdone itself now. Hmmm... Maybe I could submit a post about my pocket lint.
Alphas are released for developers (which don't have to be "in-house"), while betas are released to testers.
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How is all of what you hear about Windows 7 news? The fact is that progress of any new version of any OS is news. Do you complain when there is news about an upcoming yet unreaeased Mac OS?
If you made the same comment about a Windows 7 news item you would have been modded flamebait (not by me, mind you; I'd mod it as "overrated").
I'm excited about the progress; I use Mandriva dual boot; of the distros I've tried, it's my favorite. I haven't tried Ubantu yet, but that's only because I've been happy with Mandriva.
Oddly, I'm posting this comment on IE in Windows =(
mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
A beta version of KDE4? A development version of Gnome, and a RC of the kernel?
At least this is only an alpha.
Which makes me wonder how this got to the front page of /..
Help! I'm a slashdot refugee.
I just came back from the Philippines last week where I set up an Internet cafe with Mandriva 2008.1 version Power Pack edition. During the winter this year I tried every version of the major distributions on my systems at home and chose Mandriva for the cafe because it is so well set up for administrative control, firewall control, etc .. I have been using SUSE for over 8 years and the Mandriva looks fantastic visually, has all the software you need and offers CEDEGA to run Windows based games for online gaming. I mention this aspect since all the main users there are young guys who play on line games in the cafes. Almost all of the MMORPG games were Windows centric and CEDEGA allows you to play them with Linux. This is a clear case for better Linux gaming capability needing to come about to make Linux a real options for game players who spend a lot of money in cafes in the Philippines. I was actually forced to creat dual boot systems with four of the computers with XP so that CONQUERONLINE would play on the machines. I was quite distrubed to be forced to buy XP for those machines but ECONOMIC REALITY overrode my real desire to have Linux only cafe computers.
Doesn't have anywhere near MDV's range of configuration utilities, which is what the OP was getting at. Also we'd argue our centralized backports repository system is rather better than Ubuntu's "seventy billion PPA" system, for bleeding edge packages. (Yes, for anyone who didn't get the memo yet, I work for Mandriva).
The main point is configuration utilities. Of the other mainstream distros, only SUSE's YaST has anything like the range of the Mandriva Control Center, but it doesn't take kindly to you altering the files it controls manually (it tends to just reset them, completely overwriting your manual modifications). MDV doesn't do this. That was what the OP meant with that point. Ubuntu and Fedora (and derivatives) have nothing like MCC / YaST.
And, yes, of course we're relevant. We're probably the fourth biggest distribution overall (behind Ubuntu, SUSE and Fedora / RH). We're the largest remaining independent commercial desktop Linux distributor (excepting Canonical, which is not really a conventional company but basically entirely funded out of Mr. Shuttleworth's pocket) - if you want a company that exists by providing Linux distributions to end-users (and doesn't do it as a loss leader or a development spin off), Mandriva is basically it. And 2008 Spring got probably the best overall reviews out of the crop released at the same time, as noted by Distrowatch this week.
I LOVE PCLinuxOS, but am seriously checking out MDV2008.1 Spring FREE (and, that could be where my problems lie...). However, NONE of the current kernels intercepts the shutdown/suspend buttons on my laptop to do proper/graceful shutdowns. PCLOS (from 2007) does, and my VirtualBox install runs just fine...
I am having a HELLUVA time getting MDV 2008.1 to run my .mdi files as my own user account. I can open another user account, open konsole, su to myself, and THEN run my VirtualBox instance of vista, so, after a few days of head-banging, i've decided i must create a new instance of my user account, copy the .vdi in, and re- chown -R (just in case) my VirtualBox files, and then try again. Failing that, reinstall Vista and all my apps and re-register them. Presumably that is all unnecessary.
Likely, my problems also lie in minor changes tween VirtualBox 1.5.4 and 1.5.6, like in Free there is no set of extensions readily apparent. I had to copy them from my other drive.
But, I am reallllly tempted to plunk down for the Powerpack. In my past experiences with MDK/MDV, the Powerpack tended to resolve in one go all my issues with Free.
Another potential area of my problems is that the install disk that came with Linux Magazine might be damage, or it could be my wonky DVD burner, since the install aborts EVERY SINGLE TIME at the same place, forcing me to copy the entire DVD with auto-skip-on-error of a file copy. After that, I managed to create a local repository from which to install and upgrade in place the Mdv 2008.0 Spring I installed back around February.
Not knocking Mandriva. But one of the best personal reasons for me to avoid Free is I am sick of the crippling of the rotating background, and when I show off Mandriva, I hate having the Free background overriding the settings i made.
Nicely, the 3D Compiz works, tho, humoursly, Metisse DOES NOT, on my laptop. I ran a DVI (Azumi 2 for those interested) in LinDVD (which, now makes me care less and less whether it's Xine or VLC or Kaffeine as long as I can damned watch damned legally-paid for DVDs, and as long as having LinDVD mitigates or obviates the fracking risk of the federales confiscating my laptop for having dvdccs on my machine JUST to watch DVDs I legally paid for.)
Previously: "Linux... Toward the Sunrise..." Now: "Linux... Toward the-- No, now, part of Every Sunrise"
I have come across several packages with minor problems (such as missing dependencies) which has hardly ever happened to me with Ubuntu. RPMDrake is also not as good as Synaptic, or even Adept, but I have complained about that before on the Mandriva forums.
The problems with packages is something I have come across more recently. I hope it is just a bad patch rather than showing an underlying lack of QC.
One more thing Adam, you and a few other people do a great job on the forums. Thanks.
When you find a package with an error like that, please report it on the forums or (preferably) to Bugzilla - it'll help in getting it fixed. It does happen sometimes, mostly to contrib packages when the package gets rotten (because a maintainer leaves or stops maintaining a package for some reason). For 2009 there should be no such problems within the /main repository, we are working on ensuring that at present.
I've been running Mandriva since MDK 7.2, I had a few issues with 8.2 but everything "just works".
Yes I've tried Ubuntu, it's very shiny but I can't get into the guts of the beast; besides I'm better at using Mandriva.
What I really like best is I can use my Power pack (yes I'm a silver member) or I can use Mandriva-mini and, once I"ve set up the repositories, I can type "sudo urpmi mythtv-backend" and it all goes and works.
To me, that's a pretty damn neat trick. That's a lot neater than going down to Best Buy and buying whatever TV tuner they've got and trying to make it work on Vista.
I used to be a silver member in Mandrivaclub (two years back I think) - but I got a bit fedup having to pay for access to repositories that provide DKMS versions of proprietary nvidia drivers and such and I didn't like the 3rd party repositories for that stuff because they were messy.
This policy has been abandoned. All repositories except the commercial software ones are available to all at no charge. That includes the repository with the proprietary drivers.