There's also the stress of having your sancha let the cat out of the box in an angry tirade readable by your saintly grandmother and your judgmental next door neighbor.
Or gripe all day on Slashdot using your i7 Extreme with three SLI'd 480's that you harassed management to buy since you were "tired of waiting on the compiler".
Open slashdot... see add... Microsoft releasing plugin for Firefox (huh?) open article, "oh only works on Win7"... look for reason to get angry at Microsoft... can't find any on this one, seems like a nice thing, hear a bird outside, sip my soda, nice day out.
All you have to do is enable the non-free repositories. They've removed it from the standard install.
It will essentially cause this though: Me to be able to run a system free of binary blobs and sourceless turds in my kernel. More ease of troubleshooting problems with system devices. A kernel with less licensing and freedom issues.
You tenderfoots and your DASHES and CLANGS... you unwittingly believe that your new tools are so sexy and shiny, giggling and chuckling with your hippo dancing jokes. These tools are an abomination and a sacrilege. REPENT! The filthy whores of Babylon such is Apple may give you honey, they may give you mead now - but in the end you will be left in sorrow, pennyless. She will take your GNU purity and defile it and you will rend your clothes and mourn when you realize the extent of your filth.
"We must bear in mind that Linux is not a Russian OS and, moreover, is at the end of its life cycle."
could also be: "We must bear in mind that Linux is not a Russian OS and, moreover, is deprecated" "We must bear in mind that Linux is not a Russian OS and, moreover, is obsolete" "We must bear in mind that Linux is not a Russian OS and, moreover, is old fashioned"
Does anyone have the exact translation for what the guy really meant or just a Google translation.
Also, of course it's off-the-cuff. A Microsoft guy saying nothing more than "Linux is [i]x[/i]" with nothing more to back up the statement or shed more light on it.
You call a 386 with a 1200 baud modem "well obsolete" in 1992? Most of us didn't start getting our 486's until 1992 or 1993. I was reading about 80502 Pentiums in late '93/early '94 oooohing and aaaahing at the growth of that monstrosity of an architecture...if you had a high end 486 there was no reason to upgrade to the 80501 anyway. The 386SX's and DX's were still everywhere. I didn't upgrade my 2400 to a 14.4k until '93. Connecting to BBS's and seeing others on with 1200 or 2400 modems was the norm. In fact, I'd say that a 386 with either a 1200 or a 2400 modem was the most common type of hardware amongst Intel users back in the very early 90's.
> As far as I can tell, the only thing that separates Richard Stallman from the bum that lives under a bridge near my home and rants > incoherently at strangers is that Stallman has the ability to code.
You'd be surprised. I got into an argument with a bum under a bridge once about using sbcl instead of clisp. It seemed that decent multi-threading support wasn't important to him at the moment. Are you sure the incoherent ranting isn't just instruction mnemonics?
Thank you for your comments which have been forwarded to the proper department. You will be contacted shortly to report for rehabilitation. May RMS have mercy on your soul.
"So, because Ubuntu took the rather rough diamond that is Debian and polished it up, it's somehow "dumbed down"? Really?"
Why does everyone think that what Debian is trying to be is a polished up desktop OS? I hear this time and time again "Ubuntu is a polished up Debian" or "Ubuntu took Debian and finished the job" blah blah... or that Debian is somehow some unfinished rough draft of a project that needed Mark Shuttleworth to come around and complete.
Debian is a general purpose GNU/Linux - server OS, appliance OS, embedded OS... you name it - Debian can be used for it. Ubuntu is a desktop OS. That's it - plain and simple... Ubuntu is made from the ground up with the end user in mind for a rich DESKTOP experience. It just HAPPENS to be BASED on Debian. Yes, there is a "server" version of Ubuntu (which I find silly and is a topic for another conversation) but not even that is meant to be as flexible as vanilla Debian.
Personally I think it's silly to "roll up your sleeves and get dirty" to use Debian as your desktop OS. When I want to install an operating system on my desktop for general purpose use I get out the Ubuntu or the Fedora CD. My firewall at home? Debian. My streaming media box? Debian. My servers at work? Debian. Each distro is tailored to excel at one or a set of different jobs. Those that have a limited understanding of computers in general have a myopic view of the whole thing and expect that Linux is something for a personal computer - and that any distro that doesn't make a PC sing and dance out of the box is simply "unfinished" and "needs work". I'm sorry, but my Debian doesn't need any work or any polishing. It does perfectly well doing what it's meant to do.
Premise 1: Being a Debian user for 15 years I'm sad to see it relegated to being only identified in the mainstream as something that a dumbed-down desktop distro is based on.
Premise 2: Anyone who feels that way doesn't understand open source.
Therefore: I don't understand open source.
It's all crystal clear to me now. My eyes have been opened.
Including/excluding modules doesn't constitute a kernel fork or a "different version". That's like saying you rolled your own version of Windows by removing the network driver.
I'm not sure why he got modded troll - he's absolutely correct. TFA summary makes it sound like Linux is an operating system.
Having just lost my wife to a 16-hour-per-day WoW addiction, I finally realized after the past two years that if they don't want to help themselves there's nothing you can do for them. I tried everything I could think to do, and every attempt to "save" her only made her more angry and resentful which fed the addiction even more. Finally I just put my foot down and said "no more" - and she left.
Unfortunately I've found that my story is all too common lately. I've had family members that were hopelessly addicted to street drugs and alcohol - and this is no different. Same behavior, same problem. They even show physical symptoms of addiction, and go through withdrawal when it's not available to them.
I think we're all in for a whole new world of things to be addicted to as more options are available to technologically "escape reality". I wouldn't be surprised if within 10 years gaming and "virtual reality" addiction are an epidemic out of control.
I wish you and your friend all the best, and hopefully he snaps out of it and gets help. Don't push him and don't give him any more cause to be resentful - just be there for him when he decides to come back to Earth.
"More functionality means less performance." "You should buy a new computer for your new operating system." "Accessing a floppy drive means nothing else will respond until the floppy is done." "Number one thing you'll need for your new PC is antivirus software." "More hard drives means more drive letters." "You'll need another license for that." "Any time you change something on your machine, you'll need to reboot." "Just ignore those error messages, they pop up all the time." "It's typical to pay $1000 for hardware and $3000 for software." "Oh I know why that's broken, yesterday was patch Tuesday." "Windows won't let you do that."
It's amazing the things that Windows users view as "normal".
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There's also the stress of having your sancha let the cat out of the box in an angry tirade readable by your saintly grandmother and your judgmental next door neighbor.
Or gripe all day on Slashdot using your i7 Extreme with three SLI'd 480's that you harassed management to buy since you were "tired of waiting on the compiler".
I hope they comply with the GPL and make their source contributions publicly available. :)
Open slashdot... see add... Microsoft releasing plugin for Firefox (huh?) open article, "oh only works on Win7"... look for reason to get angry at Microsoft... can't find any on this one, seems like a nice thing, hear a bird outside, sip my soda, nice day out.
All you have to do is enable the non-free repositories. They've removed it from the standard install.
It will essentially cause this though:
Me to be able to run a system free of binary blobs and sourceless turds in my kernel.
More ease of troubleshooting problems with system devices.
A kernel with less licensing and freedom issues.
and probably no more NDA'd fed goon contributors in a heck of a long time!
Google is the worst company ever. They sold out and went evil. I give their company a poor review and personal rating.
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You tenderfoots and your DASHES and CLANGS... you unwittingly believe that your new tools are so sexy and shiny, giggling and chuckling with your hippo dancing jokes. These tools are an abomination and a sacrilege. REPENT! The filthy whores of Babylon such is Apple may give you honey, they may give you mead now - but in the end you will be left in sorrow, pennyless. She will take your GNU purity and defile it and you will rend your clothes and mourn when you realize the extent of your filth.
REPENT!
"We must bear in mind that Linux is not a Russian OS and, moreover, is at the end of its life cycle."
could also be:
"We must bear in mind that Linux is not a Russian OS and, moreover, is deprecated"
"We must bear in mind that Linux is not a Russian OS and, moreover, is obsolete"
"We must bear in mind that Linux is not a Russian OS and, moreover, is old fashioned"
Does anyone have the exact translation for what the guy really meant or just a Google translation.
Also, of course it's off-the-cuff. A Microsoft guy saying nothing more than "Linux is [i]x[/i]" with nothing more to back up the statement or shed more light on it.
This is news?
You call a 386 with a 1200 baud modem "well obsolete" in 1992? Most of us didn't start getting our 486's until 1992 or 1993. I was reading about 80502 Pentiums in late '93/early '94 oooohing and aaaahing at the growth of that monstrosity of an architecture...if you had a high end 486 there was no reason to upgrade to the 80501 anyway. The 386SX's and DX's were still everywhere. I didn't upgrade my 2400 to a 14.4k until '93. Connecting to BBS's and seeing others on with 1200 or 2400 modems was the norm. In fact, I'd say that a 386 with either a 1200 or a 2400 modem was the most common type of hardware amongst Intel users back in the very early 90's.
> As far as I can tell, the only thing that separates Richard Stallman from the bum that lives under a bridge near my home and rants
> incoherently at strangers is that Stallman has the ability to code.
You'd be surprised. I got into an argument with a bum under a bridge once about using sbcl instead of clisp. It seemed that decent multi-threading support wasn't important to him at the moment. Are you sure the incoherent ranting isn't just instruction mnemonics?
> Both are unhinged advocates for changes that will NEVER happen without first finding a genie.
Stallman's changes are already happening and as far as I know he has no access to a genie. If he had a genie he'd share it.
I didn't get past "lp0 on fire" before blowing tea all over my monitor.
The Howard Stern show is a "null character being broadcast" and it never sounds like silence to me.
Thank you for your comments which have been forwarded to the proper department. You will be contacted shortly to report for rehabilitation. May RMS have mercy on your soul.
Dammit, you're supposed to keep arguing with me. Now what am I supposed to do with my Monday morning at work? Parse my syslogs?
"So, because Ubuntu took the rather rough diamond that is Debian and polished it up, it's somehow "dumbed down"? Really?"
Why does everyone think that what Debian is trying to be is a polished up desktop OS? I hear this time and time again "Ubuntu is a polished up Debian" or "Ubuntu took Debian and finished the job" blah blah... or that Debian is somehow some unfinished rough draft of a project that needed Mark Shuttleworth to come around and complete.
Debian is a general purpose GNU/Linux - server OS, appliance OS, embedded OS... you name it - Debian can be used for it. Ubuntu is a desktop OS. That's it - plain and simple... Ubuntu is made from the ground up with the end user in mind for a rich DESKTOP experience. It just HAPPENS to be BASED on Debian. Yes, there is a "server" version of Ubuntu (which I find silly and is a topic for another conversation) but not even that is meant to be as flexible as vanilla Debian.
Personally I think it's silly to "roll up your sleeves and get dirty" to use Debian as your desktop OS. When I want to install an operating system on my desktop for general purpose use I get out the Ubuntu or the Fedora CD. My firewall at home? Debian. My streaming media box? Debian. My servers at work? Debian. Each distro is tailored to excel at one or a set of different jobs. Those that have a limited understanding of computers in general have a myopic view of the whole thing and expect that Linux is something for a personal computer - and that any distro that doesn't make a PC sing and dance out of the box is simply "unfinished" and "needs work". I'm sorry, but my Debian doesn't need any work or any polishing. It does perfectly well doing what it's meant to do.
Did you just pose a question as a premise?
Okay lemme make sure I have this straight...
Premise 1:
Being a Debian user for 15 years I'm sad to see it relegated to being only identified in the mainstream as something that a dumbed-down desktop distro is based on.
Premise 2:
Anyone who feels that way doesn't understand open source.
Therefore:
I don't understand open source.
It's all crystal clear to me now. My eyes have been opened.
It's actually kind of sad that most people identify Debian solely as being "that one that Ubuntu's based on".
I guess they achieved their ends and I wonder if Microsoft will be collaborating with the MSRC in the future. :rolleyes
Including/excluding modules doesn't constitute a kernel fork or a "different version". That's like saying you rolled your own version of Windows by removing the network driver.
I'm not sure why he got modded troll - he's absolutely correct. TFA summary makes it sound like Linux is an operating system.
Having just lost my wife to a 16-hour-per-day WoW addiction, I finally realized after the past two years that if they don't want to help themselves there's nothing you can do for them. I tried everything I could think to do, and every attempt to "save" her only made her more angry and resentful which fed the addiction even more. Finally I just put my foot down and said "no more" - and she left.
Unfortunately I've found that my story is all too common lately. I've had family members that were hopelessly addicted to street drugs and alcohol - and this is no different. Same behavior, same problem. They even show physical symptoms of addiction, and go through withdrawal when it's not available to them.
I think we're all in for a whole new world of things to be addicted to as more options are available to technologically "escape reality". I wouldn't be surprised if within 10 years gaming and "virtual reality" addiction are an epidemic out of control.
I wish you and your friend all the best, and hopefully he snaps out of it and gets help. Don't push him and don't give him any more cause to be resentful - just be there for him when he decides to come back to Earth.
Windows Userisms:
"More functionality means less performance."
"You should buy a new computer for your new operating system."
"Accessing a floppy drive means nothing else will respond until the floppy is done."
"Number one thing you'll need for your new PC is antivirus software."
"More hard drives means more drive letters."
"You'll need another license for that."
"Any time you change something on your machine, you'll need to reboot."
"Just ignore those error messages, they pop up all the time."
"It's typical to pay $1000 for hardware and $3000 for software."
"Oh I know why that's broken, yesterday was patch Tuesday."
"Windows won't let you do that."
It's amazing the things that Windows users view as "normal".
I just did a vmware install of it and uname shows 7.2-PRERELEASE. I wonder if that was a last minute thing.