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The Web Development Skills Crisis

snydeq writes "Fatal Exception's Neil McAllister raises questions regarding Web development skills in an era of constant innovation. Sure, low barriers to entry give underdog technologies ample opportunity to thrive without the backing of name-brand vendors. But doesn't this fragmentation of the Web development market put undue pressure on developers to specialize? Choosing one tool to be your bread and butter from a field this broad is one thing, McAllister writes. Recruiting talent for a Web project when your technology requirements eliminate most of the applicants is another. The result is a crisis, McAllister concludes, one in which maintaining a marketable skill set gets more and more difficult as the so-called state of the art changes on an almost daily basis."

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  1. Re:Really? by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not me... I'm an Internet Application Developer. Web Developer is so 1990s...

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  2. What's the crisis? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Real programmers don't care what language they need to write applications in. They write them in C.

    1. Re:What's the crisis? by voltel · · Score: 0, Funny

      Real programmers don't care what language they need to write applications in. They write them in C.

      Nah, man. REAL programmers use assembly. :-)

    2. Re:What's the crisis? by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Bah. You sound like one of those soft newcomers who doesn't have a steady enough hand to use a magnetized needle! I suppose we should give you a monitor and keyboard next!

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    3. Re:What's the crisis? by cparker15 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Excuse me, but REAL programmers use butterflies.

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    4. Re:What's the crisis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      > Assembly is for amateurs who can't write straight bytecode.

      What!? Turing wasn't an amateur and I'm pretty sure his bytecode wasn't straight...

  3. I gave up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    HTML PROGRAMMERS WANTED

    1. Re:I gave up by Nibbler999 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sadist.

  4. Not really, honestly by stonecypher · · Score: 2, Funny

    Real engineers can work in any language. ... except Java.

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    1. Re:Not really, honestly by stonecypher · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd rather code in beach sand with sticks than Java.

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  5. Re:change emphasis away from specifics by sohp · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know what he means! I've put this job offer through our HR folks literally WEEKS ago and have not seen a SINGLE candidate's resume!

    Wanted to hire, Jr. Web Developer.

    Required Skills, minimum 10 years experience in the following:

    Silverlight
    Microsoft(tm) AJAX(tm)
    C-pound
    SQL Server 2005
    MySQL 5.0
    ColdFusion
    ATOM
    IBM(tm) SOA .NET
    MS-Groovy
    PRISM

    Compensation: $14K/yr

  6. My secret... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I open up MS-Word. Type things in, move things around, paint borders, etc. etc.
    then I...
    File-->Save As...
    web page

    Ta Da! I'm a web designer

  7. Re:change emphasis away from specifics by eebra82 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe the compensation is set too high; it looks like you're kidding.

  8. Re:change emphasis away from specifics by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Funny

    We had no problem finding junior devs with those skills, but finding people with PhDs and 20 years of experience in Silverlight and AJAX proved problematic for the senior positions.

  9. Re:Really? by teknopurge · · Score: 1, Funny

    And chicks dig guys with skills........right?!?!

  10. somehow the mexican building crews manage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    unfortunately, it would seem that the 'smart computer geek' people cannot bear the thought of multi-linguistics, be it human or machine language, while jorje with a high school education from guadalajara has been able to learn a few words of english, become a foreman, and probably built the building you are sitting in. why? because he is smart and he picked up the important bits, and whoever is his boss is able to realize that and work around the language barrier.

    as for kanye west... if christina aguilera, shakira, celene dione, and dozens of other singers can have hits in multiple languages,, then, yeah, he might be able to do it.

  11. Re:your technical requirements eliminate candidate by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, he'd just rap on top of some guy reciting the RigVeda or something.

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  12. Re:Really? by wattrlz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nah, Chicks dig scars, or giant robots.

  13. Re:change emphasis away from specifics by adamkennedy · · Score: 3, Funny

    During the dot-com boom, I got my first job by answering a silly ad like that.

    I just put the huge list of skills into the application email, and next to them just noted "yes, yes, no, no, sorta, yes, a little, yes, no, no, no, yes".

    Turned out what they wanted was greatly different from that list, but the sheer fact I responded meant I was more or less the only applicant :)

  14. Re:As an steam turbine engineer... by chris_mahan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Company name please.

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  15. Re:Really? by element-o.p. · · Score: 4, Funny

    No kidding. About a year ago, I saw an ad for a company that was looking for a Linux, Windows and Cisco system administrator (MCSE and CCNA required, CCIE desired, RHCE desired); who could code in C/C++, Perl, Python, shell scripting, HTML/CSS and Javascript; who could configure IIS, Active Directory, Apache, Bind, Samba, etc.; and who had experience maintaining Oracle 9i.

    They were offering something like $40K a year.

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  16. Re:Really? by Atari400 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you get sick on the job from stress, you're a fucking pussy. Seriously. YOU CAN'T HANDLE IT. So get the fuck out.

    You seem a little....

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  17. Re:As an steam turbine engineer... by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 2, Funny

    You're pronouncing it wrong you illiterate clod! It's Soosufoojyu (-) I bet the katakana doesn't post, based on preview, but man that's one funny comment right there!

  18. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I really like this post.

    Although I'm afraid your drunken language might have blurred some of your points, you do have some very good ideas here.

    The best part:

    Ok that is the drunk version, but I went to all kinds of trainings, and 99% was useless. Just write an app that does .SOMETHING. in language @#$%, then you learn something. Then read a book about it, and you will be better than any certified monkey.

    I love it--learn by doing.

    The worst part:

    ...landing in a full time coding MSSQL ASP (!!!JSCRIPT!!), and JS.

    You sound too cool to be working with that crap. Come back to open source! We need you!!

  19. Re:Crikey - Big Discounts by WDot · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hooray sweeping generalizations!

    While we're at it, engineers are fucking stupid. I mean seriously, if you look at their tepid applications of math compared to someone who is engrossed in abstract mathematical thought such as I, you wonder why they even charge for their "services." A mathematician is clearly the only one who can do the job right.

    (PS I'm a CS major, and if you ever catch me saying this with a straight face I give you permission to hit me!)

  20. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I had a senior position open up and was seriously considering giving you a call. But since now I'm a prick I'll just go ahead and lose your number!
    -KT