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Language May Have Evolved Earlier Than Supposed

Science News reports on research suggesting that humans' language ability may have developed earlier than we thought. Scientists used CT scanning of H. heidelbergensis skulls, more than 530,000 years old, to reconstruct the structure of the ear canal of this Neanderthal ancestor. They found evidence that the ears of these early hominids would have had a sensitivity peak in the same 2-4 KHz range that the ears of modern humans do — the range in which most information is carried in language. Sensory systems are neurologically expensive, and it's unlikely that the body would invest the resources in maintaining such a system if it didn't serve a purpose. Quoting: "It may be time to rethink the stereotype of grunting, wordless Neanderthals. The prehistoric humans may have been quite chatty — at least if the ear canals of their ancestors are any indication. The findings suggest human speech may have originated earlier than some researchers contend. Anthropologists disagree about whether language sprang up rapidly around 50,000 years ago or emerged more gradually over a longer period of time..."

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  1. Language by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So easy a caveman could do it.

    1. Re:Language by SEWilco · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ugh.

    2. Re:Language by BizzyM · · Score: 5, Funny

      How could language develop BEFORE Adam and Eve, scientists? Explain THAT!

    3. Re:Language by vyruss000 · · Score: 3, Funny

      .ogg !

  2. Re:frosty piss? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    With that kind of evolutionary pressure, first posters may have evolved earlier than supposed.

  3. Ofcourse! by sadgoblin · · Score: 1, Funny

    And the first episdoe of The First Doctor (Doctor Who) clearly showed them communicating! So that show must be true...

  4. That's impossible! Got Bible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The earth has only existed for roughly 10,000 years.

  5. Those aren't cave paintings... by chill · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...they're pseudo-code block diagrams!

    Actually, this makes sense with the Biblical story of the Tower of Babel. At one time in history, all programmers used and understood the one true language - LISP. Great things were accomplished, and man reached for programming godhood. However the Great Architect In The Sky took offense at the introduction of strings, vectors, arrays and streams and the creation of Common LISP and sought to punish the arrogant and make them understand proper syntax. He cursed their tongues and begat Fortran, Cobol, Algol and BASIC.

    Today some strive for the light with Python and Ruby, while others walk the darkest of paths -- Visual Basic.

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    1. Re:Those aren't cave paintings... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Fool! The one true language wasn't Lisp. It was assembly language (especially IBM S/360 assembly language)! The failure of programmers is the same failure of the Romans. Classical Latin was clean and pure. But the people were too weak to use it (crying about difficult noun declensions and verb conjugations) and created Latin vulgaris and other 'easy' languages (like Spanish and French). Everyone wanted their easy programming language instead of the correct programming language, which is why we have thousands of vulgar programming languages today.

      But hark! Some wise men realized that there was a way to make an 'easy' programming language that was still almost as awesome as assembly language. And thus C was born. Wizened programmers realized the errors of their ways and swore to never use another language (other than assembly). Thus, the real wizards talk to themselves in assembly and then talk to their apprentices in C (until they are wise enough to understand why xor ax,ax is better than i=0;).

  6. Where do they come up with this stuff? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Why don't we just travel back in time and ask the poor misunderstood neanderthals, like any decent chap would do? Instead we lobotimize some poor misshapen monkey brain and call their grandmothers ugly. Science these days, I tell ya.

  7. Cave caveman by smittyoneeach · · Score: 3, Funny

    But can he sell car insurance?

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    1. Re:Cave caveman by mrsteveman1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      No but he can run lin....ah fuck it

  8. Re:Language May Devolve Earlier Than Supposed by themushroom · · Score: 3, Funny

    o rly? omg!

  9. Re:frosty piss? by sadgoblin · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think they haven't evolved at all.

  10. Language before thinking? by hcetSJ · · Score: 5, Funny

    language ability may have developed earlier than we thought.

    My first thought was, how could we speak before we could think? But that was before I read the comments . . .

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  11. Well they say chatty... by FlyingSquidStudios · · Score: 1, Funny

    but after you exhaust the topics of the big lights in the sky, the advantages of Mammoth meat and Fire 101, you mostly just sit around banging rocks together.

  12. Hasn't Evolved Much by wunchaliketano · · Score: 2, Funny

    Cavewoman: Hey Honey, after you carve the T-rex, will you stop by the blah blah and blah blah.
    Caveman: Ugh.

  13. Re:Before Adam and Eve by rwillard · · Score: 2, Funny

    An unreadable wall of text in a discussion about language just seems so very, very apt.

  14. Re:More than one conclusion. by gnick · · Score: 2, Funny

    Your cat hisses, which is an auditory signal. No doubt. But is there information encoded symbolically?

    Yes.

    By hissing, my cat tells me symbolically that she's either scared, pissed, or both.

    Of course, I keep trying to convince my wife that hissing means that she'd like to move out. That discussion typically doesn't end well...

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  15. In the Beginning.... by maz2331 · · Score: 2, Funny

    There was Silicon, and Electrons, and all was good. Then came along Programs, which put into bondage all Silicon and every Electron, and made them one and all bend to the will of the Programmer.

    And then there came Assembler, letting the Programmer's will be done. And it was good.

    Then came C. And all was better.

    Then came Pascal, and BASIC, and the Silicon became stressed, and the Electrons became depressed, and it looked for a while as if the entire Circuit would become Shorted.

    And then, the Electrons and the Silicon, threw off the yoke of the mythical Moore, disobeyed his Laws, and created the Internet.

    And from such beast sprang languages such that expressive power of REGEX was spread upon the Wires, and all the old Mainframes quivered in fear if its power. PERL and PHP, and HTML ruled the land for a millenium of Months.

    Until they too were challenged by the power of the SUN's JAVA, and the evil empire of Visual BASIC, and of Delphi, and all other languages which had sold their souls and hearts to Expression over Electrons and Silicon.

    Oh, WTF??? We're discussing the evolution of HUMAN LANGUAGE???

    Never Mind.

    I thought we were talking about code here.

    After all, Nerds don't care about history, and Geeks consider it to have started with the release of the Z80.

  16. Don't YOU know... by iwein · · Score: 3, Funny
    ...that 1 + 1 = 3 for large values of 1?

    Don't you know [yadayada] I know that 1+1=2, and many other facts that I can prove

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  17. My Wife by Smivs · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can quite believe that my wife has been talking for 530,000 years, and is showing no sign of stopping yet!

  18. Re:Jumping to conclusions by Woldry · · Score: 2, Funny

    General Ursus? Is that you?

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  19. Re:Before Adam and Eve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    In my Children's Bible, Eve is white with red hair.
    She's also eating a piece of fruit.

    And although this really shouldn't need saying, I'd just like to point out that the (Children's) Bible is the infallible word of God. Which makes Fortyaybendixen a blasphemer.

  20. Re:Before Adam and Eve by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Funny

    He's German, du insensitiefes klod!

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