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Computer Optional For AOC's New HD Display

MojoKid writes "As a 22-inch, HD flat-panel display, AOC's new 2230Fm LCD has nothing necessarily earth-shattering about its design. But what got our attention was the marketing tag for the device: 'No PC Required.' It turns out that, in addition to being a traditional flat-screen LCD with a native resolution of 1680 x 1050 (HDCP ready), the 2230Fm also includes a built-in media player, with what AOC calls its HD3 technology. The 2230Fm supports MPEG-1, 2, and 4 video formats. Supported audio formats include MP3, WMA, WAV, OGG, FLA, and M4A. Supported photo formats include JPG, TIFF, PNG, BMP, and GIF images with resolutions up to 8000 x 8000 pixels. The display also has a low 2ms response time and high 20,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio."

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  2. Slashvertise much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How is this "news for nerds" or "stuff that matters" exactly?

  3. Re:Run? by bloodninja · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What does it run? It would be interesting if it was embedded Linux, because there would be so much you could do with it (server, etc)

    Do you mean to ask "But does it run L****?"?

    I don't really care what it runs. It's a slashvertizment. Call me when C|Net or Taco or Ars or someplace that I've heard of reviews it.

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  4. Some standardization would be nice... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm all for having the option of having a low power embedded computer system in the display, just the ticket for a number of applications; but I cannot help but suspect that the value of such systems will be severely curtailled without some sort of standardization.(particularly given that the slightly uglier but much, much more standard option of an embedded PC in a VESA mount is always waiting in the wings)

    Obviously, whatever board is working its magic in this AOC, and similar, is a full blown computer. I'm not sure about this case; but a fair few of these have a network stack, browser, and everything. Do you want to depend on a monitor vendor for security updates and bugfixes? Do you want to learn that the board embedded in your pricey display has all the personality quirks of a cut-rate DVD player from the wrong side of the bargain bin? Any sort of real integration with other systems, which would open all sorts of really interesting possibilities, is likely to be either a)a gigantic pain in the ass and kinda flakey, b)specifically blessed by the vendor and all the gods for this and only this use case and accompanying software, or c) Not Happening Buddy.

    Going ahead and turning these things into full blown computers probably isn't the answer; but it would be very, very nice to see some sort of standardization, option for user access to the guts, etc. Appliances have their place; but they really do limit the possibilities of a given situation.

  5. Reminds me of that laptop I saw once. by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I saw a laptop some years back which had a CD player separate from the computer; if you had a CD in the drive, you could spin it up and plug in headphones to get tunes out of it without powering up the whole machine.

    Sounds pretty similar, I think. I didn't see the point of it then, either.

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    1. Re:Reminds me of that laptop I saw once. by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 3, Funny

      Call it the iPod Meter and people will be all over it.

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  6. Re:Run? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    It probably runs Java on a low powered CPU such as the Z80 or 6502.
    It's the latest "Just-In-Time" virtual machines that make it possible, dynamically recompiling the video codecs at runtime to give unprecedented optimizations.
    Even the very best hand optimized home-theatre video codec assembler can't approach one-fifteenth of the speed of a Java application.
    Over medium turn runs of a few months, it's been known for the entire mpeg-4 codec to be optimized down to just a hand full of instructions.
    This is one of the many reasons why nobody even bothers to perform comparisons between Java and C++ any more.

  7. Re:"HD" is useless by ya+really · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's no real use for 1080i/1080p though at the moment, other than for PC usage and BluRay. By the time telecomm companies get around to broadcasting in 1080, it's most likely OLEDs will have taken over the market of LCDS, leaving you with an outdated television.

  8. Ooh, HD movies from an SD card. by wastedlife · · Score: 3, Insightful

    TFA doesn't mention network streaming or what USB HD file systems it will support, or even if it supports USB storage other than flash drives. So, based on description available, users will need to copy a few of their media files to an SD card or flash drive (using the computer that is not necessary), and plug it into the back. Fantastic. This is definitely worth the extra space and the 200 dollar markup over regular 22 inch monitors.

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  9. Re:Run? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    What does it run? It would be interesting if it was embedded Linux, because there would be so much you could do with it (server, etc)

    Embedded Vista, you can't do anything with it.

  10. I'd pass... by Agram · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I got a total of three different LCDs from AOC with the last one purchased approx. a year ago. Poor craftmaship (chipping paint, uneven edges around the screen), more dead pixels than other brands I commonly buy, and most importantly unbearable ground loop hum generated by poor grounding that affects all equipment on the same circuit make me believe they are not all that hot (they may have improved since--although you won't see me holding my breath)...

  11. Re:Run? by nomadic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The funny thing is... it's not even a new technology. It's been done... my 42" LG 42LB5D has a feature that's eerily similar to what's described in the summary... It can be hooked up to a USB hard drive, and display pictures, play mp3s, and other media content. *shrugs*

    My Philips has the same thing. Plus it runs embedded Linux. Philips complied with the GPL by including a flyer with the TV telling me how to get the source code.

  12. Re:Run? by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Changing channel from 3 to 4

    Cancel or Allow?

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  13. Re:Run? by totally+bogus+dude · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Where did you get a digital picture frame for $10?

  14. Ummmm by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well I think you need to do a little more research first. The resolution isn't sub-par at all. Par would mean normal, median, average, etc. A little research turns up that essentially every 22" desktop monitor is 1680x1050. So the resolution is right on par.

    As for LED backlighting, are you kidding me? That is currently very expensive. It's neat and all, but you aren't going to see it outside of either laptops (where the reduction in thickness and power is worth it) or extremely high end displays (where the increase in colour gamut is worth it). At present you need to be willing to drop serious cash to get such a display.

    I also don't get all the hating on cheap monitors. Are LCDs something only the rich should be allowed to have? No? Then stop bitching when companies want to make budget displays. You want a better monitor? Go get one. There's plenty out there. I personally have an NEC 2690 and I just love it. Highly recommended. However, don't cry when you can't have it for $400.

    There's a market for high end displays, and a market for cheap ones. If you aren't interested in a given segment, ignore it, but don't hate on those that are. Some people don't have thousands to spend on a display and want a monitor for a couple hundred, even if that means a cheap TN panel.

    1. Re:Ummmm by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You haven't found it yet because you want the latest greatest right now. That doesn't always happen. Drop the LED requirement and you can probably have what you want. Likewise, you can also get 10-bit colour and LED backlight, if you are willing to take a lower resolution in the form of the HP LP2480zx. However part of life is compromises. You can't always have everything you want. If you can't deal with that, well then you have some maturity problems. You can have most of what you want (3 of 4 criteria) if you are willing to pay for it. So deal with that.

      Regardless my original point still stands, don't hate on things just because they aren't high end. Maybe not everyone wants as much as you do. There's nothing wrong with that, there's no reason to hate on normal consumer technology just because you want something high end. That's just being a snob. If this monitor isn't for you that's fine, but it is no reason to make a post dissing it.