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Movie Review, Hellboy II

Although I'm not sure the corporate overlords will let me retroactively expense a movie ticket, I wanted to take a few minutes to write my review of Hellboy II. It's been a pretty good summer for movies already: but Wall-E and Iron Man were pretty much perfect A movies. I was a big fan of the original Hellboy comic, the first movie, and of Pan's Labyrinth- my fear was that it could only go downhill. And I was wrong. VERY wrong. Read on for my review which will be mostly spoiler free. Getting a babysitter is enough work that I don't get to see nearly as many movies these days as I would like. But I knew Hellboy II had to be sitter-worthy. But I was scared going in. I always thought of Hellboy as being a comic with thick chunky lines. Bold colors. Broad brush strokes. Guillermo Del Toro's previous film is Pan's Labyrinth, and if ever a film maker has made a movie with detailed, intricate, subtle work, it was him. I was afraid that he would take a film that was so unlike the comic book that I would lose out on a favorite director and a favorite comic book at the same time. But i was so wrong.

The movie starts off far more funny than the first Hellboy. This is very much in keeping with the quirky ad campaign that has been promoting the film (the inside the actor's studio commercial for example is quite funny). Hellboy is once again Ron Pearlman- the genius bit of casting that made the first movie so great is a huge win for any sequel. He's tired of working for the BPRD in secret and is going out of his way to be spotted by the real world. But a mythos of ancient elves is working to retrieve and unify some widgets to awaken a golden army of indestructible robots, and it's up to our heroes to stop it from happening.

The elven world is very much Del Toro's designs. Likewise, an extended sequence through a secret troll market hidden under the brooklyn bridge gives him a great canvas to paint his stylistic genius. And seeing the big and clumsy Hellboy smash through it is incredibly satisfying. The action sequences are all excellent, and the final robot battle is very fun and well done.

All the while this is done with some nice plot twists for the major characters. A love interest for Abe comes along. A new good guy is sent in from the BPRD to reign in our uncontrollable hero: Krauss is voiced by Seth Macfarlane basically doing his fish char from American Dad, but inside a wacky suit controlled by ectoplasm vapors. Selma Blair is back as Liz: they give her some good lines and a few good sequences, but she's mainly a support role.

So Guillermo Del Toro was able to work within Mike Mignola's world. He put his own thumbprints all over the work, and the whole comes out better than the sum of the parts. And this makes me all the more excited for the Hobbit, where I have all the same concerns: Tolkein and Jackson will give him even bigger shoes to fill, and now I think he can do it.

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  1. Spoilers eh by TychoCelchuuu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Haven't read the review because it is "mostly spoiler free," which seems to me like manufacturing something that is "mostly carcinogenic free." If someone has a problem with spoilers, it's unlikely they're going to read the review on the off chance you've only spoiled the stuff they didn't care about and not the stuff they did.

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    1. Re:Spoilers eh by quarrel · · Score: 3, Funny

      You should come to California.

      "This airport is known to be carcinogenic", "This restaurant cooks using ingredients known to be carcinogenic", "You will die a cancerous death if you travel on this highway".. Or words to that effect are all over..

      So Taco, like California, is just trying to cover his ass from the inevitable whiners..

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    2. Re:Spoilers eh by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I saw the movie already, and this review still spoiled stuff for me.

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    3. Re:Spoilers eh by Sancho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Which is stupid. When you browse to the Slashdot front page and see a story entitled, "Hellboy II review," you should assume that there will be details about Hellboy 2. If you're that sensitive to spoilers, you don't click. We should save the "contains spoilers" tag for serious discussions about plot points, not "may contain information about the subject matter."

    4. Re:Spoilers eh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Warning: This device contains matter, which is known by the state of California to cause warpage of space and time. This device also contains extraordinary amounts of stored energy in its physical matrix. Handle with care.

    5. Re:Spoilers eh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wrong. If you see a story entitled "Hellboy II review" you should assume it will tell you the author's opinion of the movie, without spoilers. Well written reviews should not contain spoilers, and there is no need for them to.

    6. Re:Spoilers eh by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, at least they're being honest.

      Bah, they're being paranoid. Why don't they just engrave a message in our corneas that reads "Warning: Life causes Death."

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    7. Re:Spoilers eh by Mrs.+Grundy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I know exactly what you mean. It was just yesterday I opened a book by Harold Bloom on novels and just a few paragraphs in I find out the Gilberte marries Robert Saint-Loup somwhere in Proust's Remembrance of Things Past I totally didn't see that coming and now it's ruined for me forever. But I shouldn't have been nosing around in the book in the first place if I didn't want a spoiler.

    8. Re:Spoilers eh by cleatsupkeep · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hey, at least they're being honest.

      Bah, they're being paranoid. Why don't they just engrave a message in our corneas that reads "Warning: Life causes Death."

      Does it really? Someone should do a study.

    9. Re:Spoilers eh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So you want a review that discusses no plot points beyond "It contains a big red guy named Hellboy"? I didn't see anything in this review that I'd call a spoiler.

    10. Re:Spoilers eh by Phairdon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Review does not mean Summary. The movie critic profession lives on providing advice as to whether or not a movie is worth seeing, not to provide summaries of the movie. A good reviewer can tell you if a movie is good without resorting to listing a summary.

    11. Re:Spoilers eh by reverseengineer · · Score: 5, Funny

      If someone does that study, and finds the expected 100% correlation between life and death, the report of that study on /. will undoubtedly be greeted with "Correlation != causation" posts.

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    12. Re:Spoilers eh by jacks0n · · Score: 3, Funny

      Rosebud is a sled.

    13. Re:Spoilers eh by painehope · · Score: 2, Interesting
      On a lighter note, my insurance company actually called me up to tell me that if I took out a life insurance policy, it would reduce my car insurance enough that I would actually save about ten bucks a month. And I'd have life insurance as well.

      Bear in mind, I have 2 DWIs, a billion tickets, totalled quite a few vehicles, etc. I don't know if they're crazy (and just want to sell life insurance, damn the other departments) or someone has calculated the odds on my living to see 30 and feels sorry for whoever will be making my funeral arrangements.

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  2. Second best movie... by firefly4f4 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I've seen all year behind Iron Man.

    Loved the visuals, and the song scene had me nearly rolling on the theatre floor with laughter.

    1. Re:Second best movie... by trrwilson · · Score: 2, Funny

      My body is a temple.
      No, it's an amusement park.

  3. Disappointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I went into it with high hopes, but was largely disappointed. It seemed to barely be about hellboy. While the visuals, background and world were interesting and appealing, they seemed to me to be a completely separate franchise, that very distinctly left the world created in the first one.

    Thought the "new" character was an epic disappointment as well.

    Felt like the director wanted to make a movie primarily about something else, and dragged hellboy along for the ride in a bit role.

    1. Re:Disappointed by n9uxu8 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm glad to see this...I was beginning to think I was the only one. I *loved* the original Hellboy, but very nearly walked out on this one. Bad pacing and everything, and I do mean everything, felt telegraphed. Maybe if they had tried developing a character or something...oh wait...Abe drank a beer...

    2. Re:Disappointed by destine · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I honestly have to agree. I felt the world was beautiful and some of the fight scenes were fun, and while that's why most people will go to and expect from this movie, I hope they aren't disappointed. There were too many tacted-on and extremely trite love scenes. And the slapstick comedy. Hellboy gets hit with lockers, hell boy slips in goo. I really expected a three stooges scenes with Klaus as Moe, Abe as Larry, and Hellboy as Curly. I just couldn't get into it. I seriously think they could have cut about 45 minutes out of the middle and it would have been a much much better film for it. I personally suggest waiting for matinee or even a rental, though, it's one really great aspect, it's beauty, might be missed.

  4. Hellboy, the movie, sucked! by profBill · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was amazed at the following the the original Hellboy garnered. I took my kids to see it, and we ALL hated it. To the point that, when we see a movie we don't like, we all recant "Well, at least it wasn't as bad as Hellboy". And my son is a real movie person!

    I don't really know the comic, and I suspect that clouds a lot of peoples opinions of the movie, but as someone who came in fresh, Hellboy was just awful-terrible.

    Hard to imagine the sequel being better (actually, I really can't imagine it being worse).

    As a comparison, loved Wall-E, thought Ironman was just OK.

    1. Re:Hellboy, the movie, sucked! by Sancho · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I was unimpressed with the original Hellboy. I've never really been able to put my finger on why this is, but something about it just really turned me off. However, being a fan of the director and expecting amazing visuals, I went ahead and saw Hellboy 2. I thought it was far and away better than the first film, possibly due to a much understated main character. Someone else pointed out that it seemed like the movie just had Hellboy in it, but didn't really feature him--I couldn't agree more.

      Regardless, if the sample set is indicative, it sounds like you just don't care for the superhero genre?

    2. Re:Hellboy, the movie, sucked! by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The original, I gave a 7. This one, I give a 9.5.

      It's very funny in a way available to people who are not fans of Hellboy.

      Tons and tons of character stuff that would be just as fun to see a second or third time because they are not "suprise" jokes, they are character interaction humor.

      I say 9.5 because the editing is a bit choppy in the first half of the movie (a bit "jarring" at time how fast a scene will end/change-- I think they shaved off 3-5 seconds too much a few times).

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    3. Re:Hellboy, the movie, sucked! by initdeep · · Score: 2

      personally, i thought Wall_E was the most overrated movie of the summer so far.

      great visuals, poor plot and story line, and just plain too much "YOU NEED TO CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT OR YOU'LL DIE!!!" crap in it.

      i rate it as the worst Pixar film i've ever seen.

      And i own every pixar film and enjoy them.

    4. Re:Hellboy, the movie, sucked! by Toonol · · Score: 2, Interesting

      great visuals, poor plot and story line, and just plain too much "YOU NEED TO CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT OR YOU'LL DIE!!!" crap in it.

      I disagree. I probably share your irritation at heavy handed environmental messages pushed down on the public by corporate PR departments who wish to brand their company as progressive and caring... it's all crap, simplistic, and mostly just plain wrong.

      However, I don't think that environmentalism was the point of Wall-E. Apathy was. Apathy caused the planet to go to hell, but it also destroyed human relationships, sunk the level of education and physical health, and had all sorts of detrimental effects. And while I'm personally not too concerned about the state of the environment, I am concerned about the uncaring and unaware state of humanity.

      At least, that was my read. Probably we are both influenced by preconceptions.

  5. Re:Sequal? Squeal? by sconeu · · Score: 5, Funny

    Give Taco a break. His spell checker wanted to spell it "SQL".

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  6. If he's doing the Hobbit next then... by cptnapalm · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess he won't be doing his script for At The Mountains of Madness.

    I was looking forward to the shoggoth merchandise... shoggoth keychains, shoggoth pudding...

    1. Re:If he's doing the Hobbit next then... by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 4, Funny

      But c'mon, man! Shoggoth pudding! That would be awesome :)

      (deep announcer voice) Kids go CRAZY for Shoggoth Pudding!
      (cut to a bunch of kids in straight jackets; one staring at the wall drooling, one banging his head rythmically against a wall, one lying on his back and gnawing on a toe, then using the now-bleeding toe to draw MC Escher-like designs on the wall. In front of each is a spoon and an empty Shoggoth Pudding container)

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  7. Also the First Hellboy by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 2, Informative

    Taco seems to make the same mistake that I hear other people saying. Guillermo Del Toro, was also largely responsible for the first Hellboy movie; writing the screenplay and directing.

    I do think he was given much more free reign on this one, and is reflected in the things Taco commented about.

  8. Two camps on this movie by Rastl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Response to this movie is turning into two camps - love it or hate it.

    I fall mildly into the 'hate it' camp. Too much of the director's vision, not enough freakin' story.

    Underdeveloped characters, waaaaaaaaaaaay too much CGI, overly cluttered scenes, eco-terrorist plot. All adding up to me literally yawning my way through the movie.

    The original movie appeals to me because of a strong story with supporting visual effects. This movie seems to be all about overwhelming visual effects with some story thrown in to try to pull them together.

    If this is what Pan's Labyrinth is like then I'm glad I didn't waste my time in seeing it. I don't see the director as 'visionary' any more than I see M. Night Wasshisname as a visionary.

    Harsh, I know. But I'm rather picky about how I spend my precious free time and wasting it on this movie just annoys me.

    1. Re:Two camps on this movie by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Response to this movie is turning into two camps - love it or hate it.

      Followed by...

      I fall mildly into the 'hate it' camp.

      Seems to me that response is turning into two camps with a sliding scale of intensity.

      Personally, I must say that I mostly liked it with an undertone of ennui.

      And one more thing...

      But I'm rather picky about how I spend my precious free time and wasting it on this movie just annoys me.

      As opposed to wasting it reading a review of a movie you didn't like and then posting comments in the discussion?

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    2. Re:Two camps on this movie by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 2, Informative

      You didn't miss anything with Pan's Labyrinth. There was no english sound track so if you didn't speak spannish you had to fight the subtitles to understand it. In a movie with visuals like that you can miss important stuff on the screen while reading.

      As for the story, it sucked.

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    3. Re:Two camps on this movie by flitty · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, the "elf who lives in the forest" pissed about humans destroying the forest, pointing to the large "forest elemental" and saying "Shoot it, isn't that what you really want?" was too suble to pick up on the environmental leanings.

      I started out liking the movie quite a bit during it, but the more I thought about it afterword, it was just ok, not great. Plot holes you could drive a truck through and Selma Blair's Acting should have been fixed before this came out and kept it from being a much better movie. The campy comedy works, which was nice. See the movie, but don't expect awesomeness.

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    4. Re:Two camps on this movie by Shagg · · Score: 2, Funny

      M. Night Wasshisname

      M. Night Shamalamadingdong

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    5. Re:Two camps on this movie by jdgeorge · · Score: 2, Funny

      As opposed to wasting it reading a review of a movie you didn't like and then posting comments in the discussion?

      Dude, the time he spends posting on Slashdot at work is not "free" time; he was getting paid for that.

    6. Re:Two camps on this movie by cgenman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hellboy is fantasy escapism. Pan's Labyrinth is about using fantasy escapism to deal with the horrors of growing up in the middle of a war. It was a very different movie than I was expecting, but it was also far better. It isn't fantasy so much as a historical war drama with occasional fantasy elements. Highly recommended.

  9. Re:Sequal? Squeal? by FeepingCreature · · Score: 3, Funny

    There's worse.

    ...

    TOLKEIN?!
    I mean seriously, that's like some sort of deadly sin of spelling. Geeks have been sentenced to geek card revocation for far lesser crimes.

  10. don't waste your money by splatter · · Score: 2, Informative

    Saw it this weekend. The plot was long & drawn out. A little over a 2 hour film with all the trailers. The love interest plot was cheesy, as were the elves. Visual effects and the actor playing hell boy was good, new actor playing fish stick. German frauss

    Don't worry about the spoilers, you know whats going to happen by 20 min into the film, the plot is pretty translucent. Not a whole lot of new ideas.
    1) LOTR man / elf pact gone wrong - Check
    2) One crown to rule them all (need I say more) -check
    3) Goofy (corsecan brother's with out the weed) twins feeling each others pain - check
    4) Secret withheld by girl but known by mind reader until he spills it - check
    5) What is with these freaks heads? (seriously castles?)
    6) New agent hard nosed / by the book then turns rebel with the group.

    I could go on....
     

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    1. Re:don't waste your money by ODiV · · Score: 4, Funny

      6) New agent hard nosed

      Hard nosed? Quite the opposite, in fact.

      I didn't really care for the character though. Seemed to lack substance.

    2. Re:don't waste your money by cptnapalm · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, he was kind of a gas bag.

  11. Re:How well does it stand without the original? by mshannon78660 · · Score: 2, Informative

    My wife had neither seen the first Hellboy movie, nor is she much of a fan of comic book movies in general. However, she really enjoyed this. There's an especially good scene with Abe and Hellboy and lots of Tecate that had us both just about falling out of our seats, we were laughing so hard.

  12. $7.50 ticket ? where?! by us7892 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is $7.50 the Senior discount for a Sunday morning matinee in Topeka?

    The Sunday morning matinee for Wall-E cost me $9.50!

  13. Watched it last night... by DarthVain · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just saw it last night.

    I am a Hellboy fan, and have seen the first movie.

    I enjoyed Hellboy 2 last night, it was quite good. Worth a trip to the theater.

    Lots of action, funny parts, plenty of beautiful cinematography, good acting. Pretty much can't go wrong.

    If I really wanted to be a hard critic there were a few things I could say.

    1) So much eye candy. In some parts there was so much beautiful cinematography and action going on it was hard to take it all in. It makes me want to watch it again so I can see in more detail everything that is going on.

    2) It seemed to me that a lot of star trek red shirts (BPRD normal human agents) get killed off and the main characters don't seem too upset. Could be they are just used to it by now, came across more callous than it should have been I thought.

    3) I didn't buy into Abe's love interest 100%. Though I could rationalize it perhaps that he is inexperienced in love and perhaps more infatuated or desperate so I can let it slide.

    Oh and I also thought Jeffrey Tambor was very good in his role. I also really liked how the very beginning of the movie started, though I was initially a bit skeptical. Very Creative. There are also a few laugh your ass off parts which are lots of fun, particularly in a theater setting.

  14. Best Part of Hellboy II by Jack9 · · Score: 4, Funny

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  15. Re:If you are 11 years old by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Informative

    Iron Man is a "perfect A" movie if you are like 11 years old.

    Maybe I am. It depends. How old were you when you got the stick shoved up your ass?

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  16. Iron Man == "perfect A" ? by Joce640k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Come on, it wasn't that good.

    The visuals were nice but the story was cheesy and had far too much "support the troops" patriotism in it (is there any reason Iraq had to be in the movie at all?)

    I'd give it 70-80% at best.

    Pan's Labyrinth (to pick a movie at random from the review) was way better.

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    1. Re:Iron Man == "perfect A" ? by JudgeFurious · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Iraq wasn't, Afghanistan was.

      It was patriotic and "support the troops-ish" but it fit the material. Tony Stark is an arms manufacturer and those are the current wars being fought where his wares might turn up. If you're going to set this material in current events then Afghanistan and Iraq are the places you put it.

      I liked the movie a lot and thought the overt patriotism fit right into the film perfectly. I don't know if I'd give it a 100 but back in my time you had to get a 93 or better to make an "A" and I'm good with that. Mid 90's seems about right for Iron Man to me.

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    2. Re:Iron Man == "perfect A" ? by oodaloop · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Just to show it's all a matter of perspective, I saw it as a rather UNpatriotic don't-support-the-troops kind of movie. It seemed to show war as always bad, the defense industry as crooked and evil, the war in Afghanistan pointless (we couldn't even stop the massacre in this one small town!). Also, the Iron Man saga always starts in a war-zone; it was Vietnam in the first issue, later revised to the first Gulf War, now Afghanistan. And I don't recall Iraq being in it at all. The story may have been "cheesy", but it was faithful to the comic book, more or less.

      I don't want to start an argument or anything, but it just goes to show it's all a matter of opinion.

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  17. Re:OT: Pan's Labyrinth by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If it's not real (maybe she's taking some of that morphine) then her death is really quite tragic and awful, even compared to all the other events.
    If you've seen it, what do you think? I think "not real" and my wife thinks "real".

    One, the other, or both depending on my mood and what I decide to focus on. One thing I like about the movie is that it is open to multiple interpretations.

    On the one hand, nobody but her ever sees any of the bizarre things. On the other, her mother does actually start to get better with the mandrake, and worse when its removed. Fairy magic? Coincidence? Or maybe the girl's feelings affecting her mother's health.

    In either case, though, the girl dies in the end. If you believe it's all real, then this was the final step of a journey into a fantastical afterlife. If it wasn't... maybe it was still such a step? The poignancy of sacrificing herself for her brother, and the metaphor for achieving an enlightened or holy state, still exists.

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  18. Screw hellboy by Snaller · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bring on Mamma Mia! *g*

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  19. "Less than half those who ever lived have died" by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Interesting

    At one point in the last few decades it was estimated that, thanks to the human population explosion, more than half the human beings who had ever lived were still alive. (There were jokes about the expectation of eventual death being less than 50%. B-) )

    I hear that, since then, the origin date for "humans" has been pushed back enough by additional evidence that the "less than half" estimate was discredited.

    But it is an interesting thought.

    (Why SHOULD people HAVE to die, after all? At least before the heat death of the universe? OK, so the machinery of the meat breaks down. But is there any inherent reason one couldn't, with sufficient improvements in technology and application of resources, repair it indefinitely? Or even rebuild and restart it after it fails? For some time now death has been, not a state, but a prognosis: That (with current medical technology) the body's systems can no longer be repaired (and if necessary restarted) to the point that it can again operate in a way recognizable as "alive".)

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