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McCain Campaign Uses Spider/Diff Against Obama

Vote McCain in 2008! writes "McCain's campaign is doing everything it can to erase Obama's online advantage, this time they ambushed Obama by detecting edits to his website when he updated some of his policy positions. This isn't the first time the Republicans have shown up the Democrats with their web savvy — you may remember the previous reports about the Republican Web 2.0 Consultants and their online campaigning game. This just proves that old Republicans can learn new tricks." Assuming the spider adheres to robots.txt, this is clever and well done.

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  1. The Goods by slifox · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here are the goods from TFA:

    The Friday, July 11 version of the page says:
    "at great cost our troops have helped reduce violence in some areas of Iraq, but even those reductions do not get us below the unsustainable levels of violence of mid-2006."

    The Monday, July 14 version spidered by Versionista says:
    "Our troops have heroically helped reduce civilian casualties in Iraq to early 2006 levels. This is a testament to our military's hard work, improved counterinsurgency tactics, and enormous sacrifice by our troops and military families."

  2. Who are you trying to fool? by ErikZ · · Score: 4, Informative

    This just proves that old Republicans can learn new tricks.

    Are you kidding? The Republicans have been embarrassingly behind the times when it comes to IT stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole spider/diff issue came from some college Intern with initiative, working on his own.

    Normally I'd say something positive to balance my post out, but this election is look god-awful for both parties. I just don't give a damn.

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    1. Re:Who are you trying to fool? by slifox · · Score: 4, Informative

      "The Republicans" didn't do a damn thing that I'd call special or a new trick--they simply used an existing tool (and no, its not diff or any other command-line tool):

      Versionista monitors Web sites that you specify for edits. Our Web-based service records every change, clearly highlighting added or deleted words and sentences.

  3. robots.txt? Goldmine! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Informative

    robots.txt is idiotic in this context, except to steer spiders away from forms that shouldn't be submitted or triggering infinite loops. Suppose you find something like:

    User-agent: *
    Disallow: /campaignfinancesecrets/

    Don't you think that's going to be the first place to look? Again, robots.txt is to avoiding causing site meltdowns or stupid behavior. It's not to hide information.

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  4. Re:New Meme by Hatta · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why not pencil in Powell as a candidate on the ballet?!

    Because he was complicit in misleading the public into the Iraq war.

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  5. Re:New Meme by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You cut off your nose despite your face.

    No, you cut off your nose to spite your face.

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  6. Re:New Meme by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Informative

    Am I the only person who clicked on the link (hyperlink behind "Vote McCain in 2008". It takes you to McCain food services. It was a joke, folks.

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  7. Re:Why is updating your policy positions bad again by darkmeridian · · Score: 4, Informative

    John McCain has had his share of flip flops, as document in this Keith Olbermann clip. It's pretty hilarious because the clip ends by reading a statement from McCain that his viewpoints are evolving, and then noting that McCain was for evolution, and now against evolution. It is pretty well done.

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  8. A vote for POTUS is for far more than a POTUS by Ritorix · · Score: 4, Informative

    When you vote for president, you get far more than a president.

    Behind the POTUS candidate comes a legion of people who will set the policy and tone of the nation for years to come. Supreme Court justices, Cabinet members, hundreds of others at every level of government.

    Dont forget what happened at NASA, the EPA, the Justice Department, DHS, etc. All hit the headlines the last few years with major scandals brought on by POTUS-appointed bureaucrats.

    Point being, presidential elections arent about single issues or a single candidate, but a change in national leadership for all issues at all levels. Sometimes you have to hold your nose and vote for the party most closely aligned with the future you desire. Any party will bring in some crazies, its unavoidable.

  9. Re:the third parties are running idiots too..... by rho · · Score: 5, Informative

    What's going to happen to you when you say 'No'?

    Qwest said "no".

    Qwest actually said, "This is not what a warrant looks like; come back when you have a real warrant."

    It was pretty much the most impressive piece of corporate ballsiness I can recall in recent history.

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  10. Re:the third parties are running idiots too..... by The+Warlock · · Score: 4, Informative

    In Qwest's case, they said "no" and got fucked out of government contracts worth millions. Classified government contracts, too, so they couldn't directly tell their stockholders where all the fucking money went.

    No wonder the other three went along.

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  11. Re:Numbers? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Informative

    The theory is based on the Laffer curve. At a 0% tax rate, revenue will obviously be zero. At some arbitrarily high tax rate (100%? 1000%? 100,000%?), there's such a strong disincentive to earn money that revenue will also be zero. Given two zero crossings, you have an optimizable function of tax rate vs. revenue.

    In short, some groups of intelligent people think that the tax rate is higher than the optimal value, and other intelligent people think it's lower than it should be. It's not inherently idiotic to imagine how tax cuts could in fact increase revenue.

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  12. Re:Numbers? by EastCoastSurfer · · Score: 4, Informative

    Then let's cut taxes to zero and have INFINITE MONEY.

    Damn, I hate this idiotic meme. Tax revenue goes up over time due to inflation. Stop trying to give credit to tax cuts. Try taking that logic with your own finances before you try shoving it on the rest of the country. "Hey honey, I'm going to ask my boss to give me a pay cut so we have more money!"

    You're being the idiot. Taxes are a balancing act. Move them too high and you stop consumption which then lowers overall revenue. People like to feel like they are getting value when they buy something. If you tax it so much that value is no longer noticed people quit buying things. If you lower them, then people can (and will) buy more stuff which increases revenue. It's not a hard concept to understand, and there are numbers to prove it.

    Your analogy doesn't work. A better one is a company that sells some cool widget for $100. At $100 only 10 people buy it and make the company $1000. The widget is really cool and people want it, but they don't see the value at $100. So the company lowers the price to $10 and now sells 1,000 of the widgets and make the company $10,000. OMG, how did they make more money selling the widget for less??? Maybe they should give it away make infinite amounts of money. I know this is tough logic to follow, but sheesh...

  13. Re:Numbers? by EastCoastSurfer · · Score: 5, Informative

    In the case of the last eight years we've tried to combine spending increases and the need to fund two wars with massive tax cuts on the rich.

    I don't argue that spending is out of control and something that should be slowed down a lot, but I have an issue with the tax cuts on the 'rich'*. The only places that taxes can be cut is on the rich* b/c they are the only ones paying taxes! From here:

    In 2005, the top 5 percent of taxpayers paid more than one half (59.7 percent) of all individual income taxes, and the top 1 percent paid 39.4 percent; and
    Taxpayers who rank in the top 50 percent of taxpayers by income pay virtually all individual income taxes. In 2005, they paid 96.9 percent of all individual income taxes.

    So when we cut taxes who else do you want to cut them on? Or are you talking more about income redistribution. The whole take money from those who have it and hand it out to those who don't?

    * what defines 'rich'?

  14. Re:Oblig. Futurama Ref. by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not really. It's moreso simply a party centered on freedom.

    ...for certain definitions of "freedom", perhaps.

    The original libertarians were based around freedom. But a party that upholds an economic system based on government policies that concentrate wealth and power into the hands of a minority, backs a funny sort of "freedom".

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  15. Re:New Meme by billy8988 · · Score: 5, Informative

    In India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_India/, we have a multi-party system where there are literally 10s of parties that have representation in the parliament. But people are sick and tired of these small parties being corrupt and opportunistic in their voting and destabilizing elected governments. I think that is the case in Israel and to some extent in Italy. Grass is always greener on the other side...I guess.

  16. OT: That's completely false and misleading. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ugh. No. You're so wrong I don't know where to start.

    Slavery is anathema to libertarian ideology, because it allows one person to impinge on the rights of another. That's a fundamentally Bad Thing; in fact the whole point of libertarianism is the maximization of personal freedom, up to the point where your freedom to do something starts impinging on someone else's.

    Basically you've constructed a straw man and then proceeded to tear it down; congratulations. It's a good argument except that it has nothing to do with any actual libertarians that I've ever met, nor the positions of either the Libertarian party or the other similar state-level parties.

    If you want to criticize libertarian theory, that's fine -- there are many valid critiques of it. But saying that it advocates or legitimizes slavery is just false and stupid, and a great way of advertising your own ignorance.

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  17. Re:Numbers? by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's my understanding that tax cuts really do increase revenue,

    The late, great Steve Kangas takes that myth on with statistics.

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  18. Re:Lies about Libertarianism by stephanruby · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can't leave, because that would be trespassing.

    Legal trespass has many exceptions

    For instance, it's not trespass if a surveyor is going through your land. And it's not trespass if you're not home and your neighbors come on your property to fight a fire.

    Many rules have exceptions. Advocating the Libertarian position doesn't mean that you'd throw common sense out of the window, on the contrary.