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NASA Shuttle Replacement's Problems Are Worsening

ausoleil noted that NASA's replacement for the shuttle, the Orion, is slipping behind schedule "'We're probably going to have to move our target date,' NASA exploration chief Doug Cooke told The Associated Press on Wednesday after Nasawatch.com posted the 117-page internal status report (PDF) on the moon program. The cost problems include an $80 million overrun on a motor system. The Orion spacecraft's design remains too heavy for the proposed Ares 1 rocket. Software development, heat shield testing and other complex work remain behind schedule or over budget. There are dozens of such serious challenges, many of which are 'worsening.'"

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  1. Re:yeah, that's right. i'm not a rocket scientist by sm62704 · · Score: 5, Informative

    but i'll play one on slashdot and come up with all kinds of rubber band and duct tape solutions

    You mean like the ones that saved Apollo 13? IIRC the solution to the problem of running out of breathable air involved rubber bands and duct tape.

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  2. Re:I'm outraged? by dotancohen · · Score: 5, Informative

    The cost problems include an $80 million overrun on a motor system

    Well, that's sucks I guess. But since NASA has something like a $17 billion budget, isn't that a colossal non-issue? I realize this was just the motor system, but if I had a $40,000 budget to furnish a new home, I don't think I would be concerned if the coffee table was $20 more than I was expecting.

    From Wikipedia:
    "NASA's current FY 2008 budget of $17.318 billion represents about 0.6% of the $2.9 trillion United States federal budget."

    I'll let the reader come to his own conclusions about US priorities. Without linking to the DoD budget.

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  3. Re:Just wait by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think you're confusing Ares I and Ares V. Ares I isn't all that big. It's a single stack of capsule -> fuel tank -> stage 2 engine -> stage 1 solid rocket booster. If anything, it's quite a bit thinner than most rockets. However, it does make up for this by towering a massive 94m high. Which does mean a few upgrades to the scaffolding.

    The Ares V, however, she's gonna be a beasty. With six (!) main engines, two outboard Solid Rocket Boosters, a plump width of 10m on the central stack, and a towering 116m tall, she's going to put every other rocket to shame. Personally, I can't wait. ;-)

  4. Re:Fortunately for NASA by maxume · · Score: 5, Informative

    The post office is, roughly, a crown corporation. It operates under a government mandate and follows some special rules regarding taxes, but it has been self funded for quite a long time now.

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  5. Re:Why the Ares I? -- Uhh, payload? by Phairdon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did you look at how much payload each rocket can take to orbit before you made this post? Look at the payload capacity to GTO (not LEO)

    Let me list the estimated maximum payloads since you did not:
    Delta IV: 20,000 pounds or so
    Atlas V: 18,000 pounds or so
    SpaceX Falcon 9: 27,000 pounds or so
    Ares I: 50,000 pounds or so

    See the difference? Ares I is also rated for man-flight, which just makes everything much more complicated.

    The article is from a florida newspaper. Of course florida newspapers are going to print doom stories because they don't want to lose Shuttle business. Losing business happens.

  6. Re:I am a Rocket Scientist by benjackson520 · · Score: 5, Informative

    If they're serious about replacing the shuttle with only a couple years of downtime, they should already be gearing up to test the system as a whole. I'm not personally involved in the project, but it doesn't even look like they're ready to test big pieces yet. Maybe 2020 is a more reasonable date to actually begin flights.

    Disclaimer: I'm a NASA employee at Stennis Space Center, programmer not rocket scientist. The first round of testing on the powerpacks for the new J-2X engines was last month, second round is scheduled for early 2009. That's not the fully assembled engine assemblies, but it's progress.