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Scientists Find Trigger For Northern Lights

daftna writes "The New York Times (registration required) is reporting that NASA researchers 'have identified the trigger for the colorful electrical storms in the polar regions ... Scientists knew two events that occur in the tail of the magnetic field during substorms, but did not know which event acted as the trigger for the auroras.'"

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  1. That's great by Centurix · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just don't leave the trigger lying around, anyone could find that and we'd be up to our armpits in borealis...

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    1. Re:That's great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      How many times can you pull the trigger before you run out of borealis?

      When you run out, can you switch to australis?

      I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six borealis or only five? Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 aurora, the most powerful light show in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?

    2. Re:That's great by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      But being as this is a .44 aurora, the most powerful light show in the world, and would blow your head clean off

      Surely you meant "blow your mind"!

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  2. Huh? Dilbert speak from a "scientist" by Finallyjoined!!! · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "This defies our old paradigms," Dr. Angelopoulos said.

    WTF does that mean?

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    1. Re:Huh? Dilbert speak from a "scientist" by Plazmid · · Score: 3, Funny

      It means Dr. Angelopoulos has much more important things to do than press releases.

    2. Re:Huh? Dilbert speak from a "scientist" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dr. Angelopoulos said, scientists will try to figure out exactly why the magnetic field lines snap.
      While NASA is saying "Over-stretched magnetic fields snapped back, producing a powerful explosion. This process is called "magnetic reconnection" and it is thought to be common in stellar and planetary magnetic fields."
      I'm hoping the good Doctor will come up with a theory that will put "magnetic reconnection" (to separate magnetic fields joining forces--like wind, water, fire and heart join to make captain planet) to bed.

    3. Re:Huh? Dilbert speak from a "scientist" by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 4, Informative

      WTF does that mean?

      Scientists have been using the phrase Paradigm Shift for years. Marketing types took it up because it sounded scholarly.

      "This defies our old paradigms," means "this does not fit into our current sets of theories & hypothesis...."

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    4. Re:Huh? Dilbert speak from a "scientist" by Ignis+Flatus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      it means they were wrong

    5. Re:Huh? Dilbert speak from a "scientist" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      A Paradigm is 20 cents.

    6. Re:Huh? Dilbert speak from a "scientist" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A Paradigm is 20 cents.

      So were the old paradigms more valuable or less valuable?

    7. Re:Huh? Dilbert speak from a "scientist" by somersault · · Score: 2, Funny

      So what you're essentially saying is that Captain Planet is what you get when you eat a really spicy burrito?

      Wind? Check.
      Watery eyes? Check.
      Heartburn? Check
      I think you might have forgotten something like Earth, but that one links in quite well with Wind.

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    8. Re:Huh? Dilbert speak from a "scientist" by FredFredrickson · · Score: 1

      Clearly more, as today's paradigms are worth more around 16.04 cents (US).

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    9. Re:Huh? Dilbert speak from a "scientist" by Taibhsear · · Score: 2, Informative

      A Paradigm is 20 cents.

      Informative?
      WOOSH!
      Let me lay it out to those of you with wind blown hair.
      Paradigm
      PAIRo'DIME
      DIME=$0.10
      Now THAT is informative.

    10. Re:Huh? Dilbert speak from a "scientist" by omnichad · · Score: 1

      They were also 20 cents.

    11. Re:Huh? Dilbert speak from a "scientist" by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Informative

      Some moderators will mod a funny post "informative" to counter the negate karma of others who mod it "offtopic" or "troll". Funny mods give no karma.

      WHOOSH!

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    12. Re:Huh? Dilbert speak from a "scientist" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how does an anonymous coward use this karma?

    13. Re:Huh? Dilbert speak from a "scientist" by MyLongNickName · · Score: 1

      Have you ever seen his karma? It can use all the boosting it can get.

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  3. With this knife, I will rent the very fabric ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I alone will possess the secret of the Northern Lights. Watch as I wield the subtle knife and merge the worlds within worlds that exist beyond our own!

  4. This means one thing... by Plazmid · · Score: 3, Funny

    AURORAL ADVERTISING! Soon the sky will be filled with huge flickering corporate logos and slogans.

    1. Re:This means one thing... by easyTree · · Score: 1

      Shhh; don't give them ideas. You know marketing types troll tha intarweb looking for ideas...

    2. Re:This means one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I can imagine Aurora Snow having a great way of advertising herself and her business to the world.

      *jerks off*

    3. Re:This means one thing... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I actually hope (still, lingering) that Rolling Rock does manage their moonvertising stunt. They probably won't/can't and it really would be rather crappy but, regardless, I think it'd be neat. I'd hope that it wouldn't catch on and that companies didn't actually start doing that on a regular basis but I think it'd be cool to see done once or twice. If you're really bored: http://moonvertising.com/

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    4. Re:This means one thing... by joeslugg · · Score: 1

      You'll have to compete with Darth Harrington's Intergalactic Proton Powered Electrical Tentacled Advertising Droids!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYz3eOApCmI

    5. Re:This means one thing... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      You'd have to be a fairly dedicated fan of la belle Aurora to travel all the way to Norway or wherever just to flick another one off the wrist.

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    6. Re:This means one thing... by Emperor+Zombie · · Score: 1

      To hell with that! Let's rickroll the North Pole!

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  5. Lies! by ilovegeorgebush · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's not electrical storms, it's dust! Don't let the Magisterium tell you otherwise!

    1. Re:Lies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Join me and together we will possess its secrets! Just think - endless worlds beyond our own. We will create a paradise where the Magisterium have no sway.

    2. Re:Lies! by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      And don't let the Magisterium waste your time by making you think The Amber Spyglass will be any good either.

      OK, I'm being unfair. The ending is magnificent, it's just a shame most people probably give up before reaching it.

    3. Re:Lies! by Lapsarian · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Sure sure, a trigger for the Northern Lights, sounds wonderful but think of the sacrifices. Poor Roger did nothing do deserve this!

    4. Re:Lies! by zyzzyx1 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      And don't let this self-contradictory post dissuade you from reading it if you haven't. Amber Spyglass is easily the best of the trilogy.

    5. Re:Lies! by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1

      Are you talking about the Chronicles of Amber?

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    6. Re:Lies! by cheater512 · · Score: 1

      Its the His Dark Materials series.
      The Golden Compass
      The Subtle Knife
      The Amber Spyglass

      http://www.hisdarkmaterials.org/

  6. Oh NYTimes will you ever learn? by Hackerlish · · Score: 2, Informative

    > "The New York Times (BugMeNot required) is reporting that NASA ...
    Fixed!

    1. Re:Oh NYTimes will you ever learn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You just need to enable cookies and you can access the page without logging in.

    2. Re:Oh NYTimes will you ever learn? by gunnk · · Score: 1

      Actually, I believe the NY Times announced a while back that they were dropping login requirements to read articles.

      I can search old articles without logging in, and the editorials are no longer locked behind the wall.

      So, you CAN log in, but there is no registration required anymore.

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    3. Re:Oh NYTimes will you ever learn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I believe the NY Times announced a while back that they were dropping login requirements to read articles. I can search old articles without logging in, and the editorials are no longer locked behind the wall. So, you CAN log in, but there is no registration required anymore.

      They require a cookie that tracks how many articles you view (or maybe pages, but I don't think so). After five, it asks you to log in. Just clear the cookies to keep reading.

  7. To save you time... by RuBLed · · Score: 2, Funny

    They found the trigger under the couch...

  8. But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have they found who's been switching on and off all this time?

    1. Re:But... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I blame the comment directly below this when I typed it...

      The answer is yes they have, it was Ceiling Cat.

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  9. Can we haz energy? by PetiePooo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Each substorm generates a current of about one million to two million amps over one to two hours, or a total energy equivalent to a magnitude-5 or magnitude-6 earthquake, Dr. Angelopoulos said.

    The question is, can we harness this energy? Is this a form of the limitless solar energy that we can enslave to our use, or are we limited to the radiated visible and near-visible spectrum?

    And if this is too far up and unavailable to us surface-dwellers, is it something that the LEO/MEO satellites could use for propulsion or power? I thoght I remembered reading something about a mag field powered satellite somewhere...

    1. Re:Can we haz energy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The overall movement of charged particles tends to trickle down though the many layers of the Earth's electromagnetic and ionized radiation fields, before it works it's way down to the lower layers of the atmosphere, and beyond that into the strata of the earth.

      Sometimes "windows" appear that allow easier transversal of a layer, such as in violent thunderstorms where "jet" or "sprite" movements of charge can be visibly seen.

      Logically, any system that could bridge one or more upper layers should be able to couple a significant amount of energy in the process.

      A ground based coupling circuit would seem ideal, whether that could be accomplished with an ultraviolet laser ionizing a path to ground, or a tuned circuit coupled to a large elevated capacitance, the idea would be to produce something a bit more predictable and useful than a lightning rod!

    2. Re:Can we haz energy? by Goobermunch · · Score: 4, Interesting

      We've been trying to put the Aurora to use for years. Back in the 60's, my father spent a lot of time in Homer, Alaska working on a Stanford Research Institute project to determine whether we could use the Aurora Borealis as a distant early warning system to detect Soviet transpolar ICBM launches. The theory was that, because the Aurora was a big electromagnetic storm, tossing a large hunk of ferromagnetic metal through it would cause a disruption that could be detected over the horizon.

      I don't what the ultimate results of the project were (though I suspect that it was not successful since we didn't use the aurora for that purpose), but Dad fell in love with the environment and the community up in Alaska. The place had such an impact that he made my mother promise to move there before they got married. That's why I grew up with this as the view from my bedroom window.

      --AC

    3. Re:Can we haz energy? by oldCoder · · Score: 1

      Only ceiling cat can reach it.

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    4. Re:Can we haz energy? by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 1

      Nice photo. I grew up a few hundred KM east of there, in Whitehorse. ;) Similar view out the window, but without all the blue stuff.

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    5. Re:Can we haz energy? by jamrock · · Score: 1

      No, but you can haz cheezburger.

    6. Re:Can we haz energy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? You had a website constantly showing on the monitor outside your window? Talk about waste of electricity...

      Oh, unless you mean you had a poster printed of the website. Then it's ok.

    7. Re:Can we haz energy? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      Wow, that's an amazing vista. You sure were lucky, especially since from what friends from alaska have told me, it's more typical to grow up with this view out their window.

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    8. Re:Can we haz energy? by DaemonDazz · · Score: 1

      They grow up with a '403' outside their window?

    9. Re:Can we haz energy? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      Bah... I tested the link in "preview" and everything. They must have changed permissions. Damn them for ruining meh funneh.

      Anyway, it was the second picture that shows up on http://images.google.com/images?q=moose%20butt

      It was a moose butt.

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  10. No registration by wye43 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    In fact, no registration is required. I just read the article without logging in.

  11. Trigger? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Triggers? How long til they find out how to ROLLBACK; the Universe?

    1. Re:Trigger? by illumastorm · · Score: 2, Funny

      I must be tired. I read that as "How long until they find out how to rick roll the universe?"

  12. That was quick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    THEMIS launched in the first half of 2007. I remember because my plasma physics professor canceled class the day of the launch and invited us to the launch party...

    The cause of the aurora borealis is something that has not been adequately explained up to now. It seems that magnetic reconnection phenomena in the tail are the trigger, but where exactly? That's what THEMIS was designed to figure out.

    This is a very interesting result for plasma physicists and astrophysicists.

    http://ds9.ssl.berkeley.edu/themis/flash.html
    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/themis/main/

    1. Re:That was quick by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 1

      Very well summarized, except I disagree with "has not been adequately explained up to now." It's true that there were things (and remain things!) that we don't understand, but this result is really more incremental than ground-breaking. It's a very good result and nice work all around, but I think that the press-hype is probably a bit over the top.

    2. Re:That was quick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, perhaps I should have said "competing theories" rather than "has not been adequately explained".

      I think the press is rather benign in this case. It makes for pretty pictures and reminds the public that Science is being done.

  13. Scientists Find Trigger For Northern Lights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DON'T PULL IT!!!

    1. Re:Scientists Find Trigger For Northern Lights by ScrewMaster · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's not the trigger, it's the battery.

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    2. Re:Scientists Find Trigger For Northern Lights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. And its called the SUN.

      Good point, I'm off to apply for grant money to search the universe, and see if there are any other objects like the Sun.

  14. 50/50 by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

    So they start with 2 choices, then declare one the winner. Knowing the amount of testing NASA does (foam+shuttle), you have a 50/50 chance of proving them wrong some day!

  15. Teach the controversy! by UrinalPooper · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the Dover school board was run by Vikings they'd have to teach this theory alongside the 'theory' that the Northern Lights are the glow from Asgard.

  16. Trigger by HAARP? by Airw0lf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So now that they know what the trigger is, can they use the HAARP to excite the Northern Lights?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAARP

    1. Re:Trigger by HAARP? by caluml · · Score: 1

      Wow, that's quite interesting. I didn't know that HAARP was an ionospheric heater. Who would have thought that scientists would be blasting megawatts of RF into space to investigate it.

    2. Re:Trigger by HAARP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Ah, the foolish proles, already digesting the propagandist lies fed to you by your invisible wiki overlords. HAARP is in fact the culmination of hyper-advanced Tesla technologies and is in fact the Ultimate Weapon of the Conspiracy. How do you think that all those school shootings were taking place? Satanic Illuminati mind control using advanced weather warfare machines is the only sane conclusion.

  17. AP article on Fox. No registration req'd by olddoc · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,390941,00.html

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  18. Scientists Find Trigger For Northern Lights by TheCybernator · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes. And its called the SUN.

  19. as per Stargate: by irtza · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can't be true. The Asgard went instinct, but not before transferring their wealth of knowledge to man kind. If it was from the Asgard, they would have been gone when the replicators got them!

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    1. Re:as per Stargate: by dkf · · Score: 1

      The Asgard went instinct

      Say what? They stopped reasoning for themselves and started going with whatever their gut response was for everything?

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    2. Re:as per Stargate: by BotnetZombie · · Score: 1

      In this case it means the opposite of extinct. A similar effect can be observed when it's mating season on the dance floor - you go instinct and populate the earth.

  20. Re:AP article on Fox. No registration req'd by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

    Oh, yes. Good ol' trustworthy Fox.

    Have Reuters picked this story up yet?

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  21. Aurora desk lamp by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

    So when can I get my thinkgeek-branded aurora generating cubicle desk lamp?

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  22. NOT Northern Lights! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ahh, so it's for Aurora Borealis, and NOT Northern Lights...

    Thanks for ruining my hopes... :(

  23. Re:AP article on Fox. No registration req'd by LowlyWorm · · Score: 1

    Yeah Reuters is great -- quick and to the point. There appears to be some discussion of allowing people to remove Fox news from personalized news in Google groups.

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  24. Northern Lights in the Polar Regions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    FYI, the Northern Lights only occur in one Polar Region. At the South Pole, then call them the Southern Lights.

  25. The result, for those who care... by jnik · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's buried at the end of the article, but Near Earth Neutral Line wins, current disruption loses. The real kicker is that the aurora were detected before the cross-tail current was disrupted, so the auroral currents are apparently not caused by closure of the cross-tail current. That should be very interesting.

    The mission planners had the foresight to include a substantial ground-observation component, which made this second result possible.

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    It turns out that visitors coming from some sites (such as news.google.com) don't need to register. Go to such a site. Click your favourite. Enter address. Presto!

  27. THEMIS mission confirms old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This 21+ year old article basically describes all this, too bad the PI is not old enough to remember. But at least he pushed getting the spacecraft to gather hard data rather than models.

    http://space.unh.edu/~rlk/research/reprints/jgr_92_7471_1987_image.pdf

  28. Can auto engine create mini storm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A bizarre cool evening following a friend's hot rod v8 car with new headers, had a colorful storm underneath it at high speed on the highway. upon checking, nothing was burned. It just hovered there,under the belly pan, no explanation. Never explained the ball of light...can an auto engine create a mini storm? There are other details to talk about this scientifically,such as new higher powered coil, moist road, etc. and no hallucinations involved. It really happened, as colorful as northern lights...
      I hope they decipher it. I bet it is as simple as the true explanation, just a matter of finding answers.

  29. No registration required! by davidc · · Score: 1

    The New York Times no longer requires registration, and hasn't for quite a long time now. If you're still getting registration prompts, clear your NY Times cookies.

  30. As a space physicist... by NotNormallyNormal · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have to say... electrical storms?? The aurora is not electrical. It is caused by charged particles moving along magnetic field lines. These are called auroral substorms (or magnetic substorms depending on your definition). Ground detection by magnetometers is possible as is electrical disruption caused by magnetic induction (and a slew of other things). While I have not directly looked at the data from THEMIS (I finished my PhD before the data rolled in and am now elsewhere working on other things) I am skeptical that this "solves the problem". I extensively studied over two years of data and concluded that some substorms appear to occur without reconnection (paper pending). All I have to say is that a few case studies will make it very hard remove any other possible models, such as current distruption, despite what those in the Near Earth Neutral Line camp want to make everyone believe.

  31. Wind, Watery eyes, Heartburn... by game+kid · · Score: 1

    ...go bathroom!

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  32. IANASP by Crispy+Critters · · Score: 1
    Sounds like the NYT article is saying that reconnection events accelerate the particles, which presumably then cause the aurora. Is this what they are saying?

    I am not sure that the observation that reconnection is not always involved leads to the conclusion that reconnection is not involved most of the time. (I don't know enough to have an opinion.) Many effects are robust in that they can be triggered in multiple ways. The aurora could be one such.

    1. Re:IANASP by NotNormallyNormal · · Score: 1

      While its true that the events around reconnection can accelerate the particles, there are many other effects in the magnetosphere that are capable of this as well.

      As far as reconnection, most if not all of the community agrees that reconnection takes place as well as current disruption for nearly every substorm. The question is when. This article states that the reconnection is occurring before the current disruption. There seems to be only 3 cases that have been studied, including the one on Feb 26th, 2008 presented in the Science paper by Dr. Angelopoulos et al.

      I certainly have not formed an opinion either way and this has not sufficiently provided me with enough evidence to think that this is the only "trigger". It still does not explain internally triggered substorms and does not adequately describe what causes the reconnection in the first place.

      One interesting statement that is made is the fact that the aurora appears to intensify before the current disruption and before the magnetic pulsations, (Pi2 pulsations) which normally mark the onset at the Earth. This is a very interesting result and if true, poses a very interesting problem as to why.

  33. In response to this by LM741N · · Score: 1

    various ultra liberal groups have proposed mandatory trigger locks on these auroras.

  34. A woman from Germany called by HiggsBison · · Score: 1

    Have they found who's been switching on and off all this time?

    It was Steven Wright. He had no idea what that switch did. Then he got a call from a woman in Germany. She said "Cut it out!"

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  35. MOD PARENT UP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Funny mods give no karma."

    +1 Funny.

  36. It's just the SkySaver.... by rubberbando · · Score: 1

    It happens from letting the Earth idle for too long.

    I'm sure if it idles for too much longer after the SkySaver kicks in, the Sky will just go into standby mode and go blank...

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  37. NASA Science News Article by ghostis · · Score: 1
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  38. Answered my own question... by Airw0lf · · Score: 1

    Wow, that's quite interesting. I didn't know that HAARP was an ionospheric heater [wikipedia.org]. Who would have thought that scientists would be blasting megawatts of RF into space to investigate it.

    Your Wikipedia link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionospheric_heater says that "An ionospheric heater is an array of antennas which are used for heating the ionosphere, and which can create artificial aurora borealis." So I guess the answer is probably a "yes."

  39. Re:Combined With Ongoing Research Into The "Gay Ge by phreakhead · · Score: 1

    Aww, you've become creative in your trolling now! You've even learned how to rhyme? Good job! You get a gold star.