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Medical Health Disclosure vs. Steve Jobs' Privacy

An anonymous reader writes "The New York Times is saying that Steve Jobs doesn't have cancer, but that he needs to disclose all the information about his medical condition so investors can decide. Gizmodo's strong rebuttal says that everyone has the right to keep medical records confidential. They argue that, if prominent US presidents legally kept their grave illnesses secret — even while the security of the country was at stake — a simple CEO should be able to do the same: 'Steve Jobs has the right to keep his medical records private for as long as he wants. Like FDR. Like JFK. Like any single person in this country and the world. It's our right, as humans, to do so.'"

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  1. Well to be fair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everyone else found out about JFK's medical problem the same time he did.

    1. Re:Well to be fair by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, he did a really good job!

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  2. Sure, they have that right. by zonky · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And surely the public/investors in view of a lack of a full disclosure have the right to sack/not elect politicians/CEO's who will not disclose potentially pertinent information about their ability to work in their role.

    1. Re:Sure, they have that right. by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And surely the public/investors in view of a lack of a full disclosure have the right to sack/not elect politicians/CEO's who will not disclose potentially pertinent information about their ability to work in their role.

      There is a difference between CEOs and presidents. You can dump your stock any time you want and reinvest in other companies with other CEOs. But you can't call up your broker and say: "Sell all my Bush, buy Obama at 40", and expect to have a new president.

    2. Re:Sure, they have that right. by clang_jangle · · Score: 5, Funny

      But you can't call up your broker and say: "Sell all my Bush, buy Obama at 40", and expect to have a new president.

      I believe that may depend upon the identity behind the pronoun "you" in your statement.

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    3. Re:Sure, they have that right. by maxume · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think maybe he would suggest that people are free to not vote for a candidate based on their refusal to share their medical records.

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    4. Re:Sure, they have that right. by necropsy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "If you have nothing to hide, you wont mind if we talk a look around..." ;p

    5. Re:Sure, they have that right. by EvanED · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have mod points, but I don't see (+1, Sad Truth) among the options...

    6. Re:Sure, they have that right. by centuren · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To refuse you would have to be asked. I don't think any one needs to ask Obama for his records but McCain (or even Paul who I would rather see as President), most certainly. But if Obama were to be asked and then refuse, well then that would smell to me.

      If Paul or Obama disclosed medical records when asked, that would "smell" to me more than if they did not. In that situation, I expect a President or Presidential candidate (especially a Libertarian like Paul) to stand firm on the issue of privacy.

      In terms of the head of a private company, regardless of how much one person is perceived to be responsible for the firm's success, I don't see sufficient shareholder reason to warrant disclosure. Even if his records showed he had cancer, it would still just be speculation about his abilities.

      If anything, it seems counter to shareholder interest for him to disclose the records, and as for potential investors, they can invest or not. Jobs works for Apple. If he is a tipping point for someone to invest, well, he might get hit by a truck tomorrow regardless.

  3. Uh huh ... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'Steve Jobs has the right to keep his medical records private for as long as he wants. Like FDR. Like JFK. Like any single person in this country and the world. It's our right, as humans, to do so.

    Sure, sounds great. Someone should tell the insurance companies and medical transcription outfits about that, though. They have no problem spreading our health information all over the goddamn planet.

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  4. Short by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Steve Jobs issued a very brief press release:

    ! iSick

  5. Investors can still decide by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Steve Jobs may or may not have cancer. He also may or may not get shot by a crazed Windows fanboy tomorrow. Make the investment in Apple with full knowledge that there is a risk, and estimate what the risk is. Or decide that the risk is too high and don't.

    It's not up to Steve Jobs to make it easy for you!

    1. Re:Investors can still decide by solevita · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's not up to Steve Jobs to make it easy for you!

      I thought that was the whole point of buying a mac!

  6. It's personal by TheCastro · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think that Steve Jobs shouldn't have to reveal or talk about anything personal to his company or investors. "He could die, and our stocks could fall," yeah and he could get hit by a car too; that's the reasoning I see them using. I'm sure you can find other random arguments against secrecy, but seriously, is nothing private anymore? Sure if he suddenly dies of cancer everyone will jump ship, but that's only because no one knows who else can invent things at Apple - they need to put other people on display.

  7. Investors these days. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is why they say that investing involves risk. There are lots of things you don't know and pretty much have to bet on.

    Let's see these investors disclose all the details about their internal operations first.

    Besides, if Apple can't survive without Steve Jobs, then neither he nor the board is doing their job. Oh, wait, long-term investment... nobody does that any more. Right, sorry, my bad.

  8. Re:LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Allergy to high-velocity injections of lead is actually quite common, but the condition is often diagnosed when it's already too late.

  9. Steve Jobs' plan for Apple by codeonezero · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Given the amount of time Jobs has been back at Apple, and proof of his long term planning strategies (Think OSX86 since 2002 or so? someone remind me), shouldn't investors be looking at Apple for more such long term strategies already underway instead of simply basing their decision on Jobs alone?

    I know Jobs is a victim of his own success, with everyone wanting to pry into his private life to see if the "second coming" of Apple will end with him or not. But surely anyone paying attention to what Apple has been doing can use that information to make smart investment decisions instead of basing it all on one man?

    There are some very talented people at Apple from what I've seen (people I've met who work at corporate on iphone dev, macosx dev, , etc). I would be surprised if Jobs didnt put in place project leads and managers with vision to supplement or augment his own.

    Remember this is not like when Jobs got kicked out because Apple needed to "grow up" and Jobs being ousted as the "not grown up enough" element in the company. He's proven himself very capable of getting very good people together to accomplish the projects and goals in mind.

    Personally, I feel that if Jobs stepped down Apple could continue to do quite well. Several years ago, I wouldn't be so sure. I'd sure be interested in someone put some time into evaluating possible choices to take over Jobs job :)

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  10. First mobiles, then Wifi... by monktus · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...next they'll be trying to tell us Reality Distortion Fields cause cancer!

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  11. Singling out Apple is inappropriate... by dpbsmith · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm not sure I know what is or isn't owed to the public in the way of medical disclosure, but it's inappropriate to single out Apple and Steve Jobs as if they were an egregious case. Holding back adverse medical information about CEOs, or "spinning" it to minimize it, is par for the course.

    One example which comes to mind is the diagnosis of Dr. An Wang with esophageal cancer. Dr. Wang was at least as important to Wang Laboratories, Inc. as Steve Jobs is to Apple, and esophageal cancer is a very dangerous form of cancer.

    But when Dr. Wang failed to make a scheduled appearance to address a meeting of the Boston Computer Society, a company representative explained that he was suffering from "a sore throat."

    A quick database check of The Boston Globe indicates that his true condition was not disclosed until March 9, 1990, sixteen days before his death on March 25th, even though he had had surgery for his cancer eight months earlier. Indeed, it can be said that it was not even disclosed on March 9th, as a Wang spokesperson was quoted as saying "The diagnosis of his present condition is not available at this time."

  12. Strong rebuttal? WTF? by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gizmodo's strong rebuttal says that everyone has the right to keep medical records confidential.

    While this may be true, it does not naturally follow that exercising a right should have no negative consequences, such as a fall in the price of a security. A "right" in this sense pertains to the force of law, not a public relations disaster within the investment community.

    I mean, Steve is free to keep his personal secrets, and I'm free not to buy stock in his company. His business is his business, but my business is my business too, and if I'm investing in his company, our businesses overlap. How could this possibly be redressed? What possible legal remedy could compel me to invest in companies without (rather stupidly) taking possibly unhealthy CEOs into account? Tax breaks?

    People don't understand what a right is. It doesn't mean nothing bad is legally allowed to happen if you make a choice you are entitled to make. A right circumscribes the limits of legislation. And no law is forcing Steve Jobs to expose his medical history, nor does any corporation or individual have the power to legally force him to release this information. Apple cannot cite stock price losses as damages. They are also not required to present his health information to any outside entity, in accordance with his legal rights to protect that information. But I don't see where they are. He's reacting to negative articles and political developments both inside and outside his company, and his legal rights have nothing to do with these things.

    He does have an informal "right" to be sick without people reacting to his secrecy about it. But this is not a right in a legal sense, because violating it is not a criminal act any more than just being a jerk.