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Have Modern Gamers Lost the Patience For Puzzles?

Brainy Gamer has an interesting reflection on old puzzle games and why their style of gameplay seems to be a dying art. According to the author modern gamers seem more interested in combat and seem to have lost the patience for difficult puzzles. "Despite my fondness for the adventure games of yore, it appears the days of puzzles in narrative games have come and gone. Puzzles - especially the serial unlocking variety found in the old LucasArts games - seem to have become a relic of a bygone era. Where they once provided a necessary ludic element to a—clever and often complex narrative - designed to add challenge and force the player to earn his progress through the story - few modern players have the patience for such challenges anymore."

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  1. This thread has been eaten by a grue by monkeyboythom · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...

    1. Re:This thread has been eaten by a grue by Deadstick · · Score: 4, Funny

      What is a grue?

      rj

    2. Re:This thread has been eaten by a grue by Bryansix · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm guessing you don't know what Atari is or what they made. I'm also guessing you born after 1986.

    3. Re:This thread has been eaten by a grue by lahvak · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just turn off the light and wait.

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    4. Re:This thread has been eaten by a grue by Nullav · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wouldn't know. I haven't seen one.

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    5. Re:This thread has been eaten by a grue by Deadstick · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm guessing you never typed "What is a grue?" in a Zork game.

      rj

    6. Re:This thread has been eaten by a grue by Deadstick · · Score: 4, Funny

      That faint flapping sound you hear is a badly overworked whoosh-bird trying to remain airborne.

      rj

    7. Re:This thread has been eaten by a grue by kv9 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I do believe you have just pulled the double-amazing-reverse-whoosh.

  2. "Modern gamers"... by afabbro · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...as opposed to ancient gamers? Preindustrial gamers? Renaissance gamers? Pre-war gamers?

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    1. Re:"Modern gamers"... by trongey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ahh. The Renaissance gamers. Now those guys knew how to have fun. Games just haven't been the same since they replaced quill pens with graphite pencils.

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    2. Re:"Modern gamers"... by Z00L00K · · Score: 2, Funny

      Like those of us that played Space Quest, Kings Quest or Leisure Suit Larry (who were looking for love in the wrong places)

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    3. Re:"Modern gamers"... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...as opposed to ancient gamers? Preindustrial gamers? Renaissance gamers? Pre-war gamers?

      Giant enemy crabs?

    4. Re:"Modern gamers"... by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, we play games...but only for the ironic value

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    5. Re:"Modern gamers"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I know what you mean. Writing up character sheets in the scriptorium, pumicing details out every time you gained a level, the hideous palimpsests the rulebooks became once you were done putting in the errata, the DM having to run one of the PC's because the player was burnt for heresy...

  3. Wanted to respond to this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    ... but the comment thing was just too much of a hassle to figure out.

    Also, not enough blood or tits.

  4. Re:You can't be serious... by PlatyPaul · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe he's just tired of math.

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  5. Re:7th guest, 11th hour by fishbowl · · Score: 2, Funny

    "I don't think you CAN do this..."

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  6. Re:Plug for the powder game by s.bots · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thanks t0qer
    for the very interesting
    poem about a java game
    It was touching
    and yet
    left me confused
    wanting more

  7. Re:perhaps they realize.. by meringuoid · · Score: 4, Funny
    One hour. Seriously, that is how long it took me to complete Portal the very first (and only) time I played it.

    Wow. That was a triumph!

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  8. Re:Summary anyone? by camperdave · · Score: 4, Funny

    The author misses his puzzles, and now yells at the neighbourhood kids to get off his lawn.

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  9. Re:The opposite for me by pushing-robot · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's an interesting combination of post and sig.

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  10. Please by Verdatum · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's not like you have to transport into your own brain and rip out your common sense in order to can pick up the Tea and the No Tea at the same time so you can so impress the ship computer that he opens the door for you. Discussing any puzzle less complicated than that is just whining.

  11. Re:Plug for the powder game by Achra · · Score: 5, Funny

    Burma Shave.

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  12. Re:Plug for the powder game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have to say, I've never read such a honest and touching poem about the complex relationship between a man and his java game.

  13. Re:Ever heard of a little game called Bioshock? by Shade+of+Pyrrhus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please note that we have added a consequence for failure. Any failure will result in an unsatisfactory mark on your official testing record, followed by death.

    Portal can be a pretty harsh puzzle game, too...

  14. Re:Plug for the powder game by FeepingCreature · · Score: 5, Funny

    gentoo-pc ~ $ LC_ALL="C" appletviewer http://dan-ball.jp/en/javagame/dust/
    Warning: tag requires name attribute.
    Warning: tag requires name attribute.
    java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 288
    at d.a(Unknown Source)
    at d.a(Unknown Source)
    at dust.a(Unknown Source)
    at dust.init(Unknown Source)
    at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:419)
    at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619)

    Java.
    Write once,
    run anywhere.
    Yeah. Right.

  15. Modem Games by __aamisb9940 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hell yeah, modem gamers don't like puzzles!! They MUCH prefer getting that init script juuuust rii@#$%^)(*%&$ NO CARRIER

  16. You are lost in a maze of twisty little threads, by lahvak · · Score: 4, Funny

    all alike.

    Actually, that is a pretty good description of slashdot.

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  17. Re:Plug for the powder game by VAXGeek · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gentoo eh? You must have compiled your JDK wrong! Try setting ARRAY_OUT_OF_BOUNDS_EXCEPTION=false before you do the build.

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  18. WELL ! by smoker2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    WELL !
    HAVE THEY ?!?!?!

  19. Re:perhaps they realize.. by bckrispi · · Score: 2, Funny

    One hour. Seriously, that is how long it took me to complete Portal the very first (and only) time I played it.

    Unbelievable! You, [Subject Name Here] must be the pride of [Subject Hometown Here].

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  20. Re:Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Big_Monkey_Bird · · Score: 2, Funny

    Argh. No. Never. The important part is I am not bitter.

  21. Re:You are lost in a maze of twisty little threads by mdfst13 · · Score: 2, Funny

    My favorite story about this was the game where all the commands were of the form "verb noun" where only the first four letters counted. The correct action was to "scream bear" which caused the bear to run away. However, if you got really frustrated at trying to guess the correct command and wrote "screw bear" instead, the bear also ran away.

    The guy who wrote the article said that he was rather surprised at that result...

  22. Renaissance gamer man by acheron12 · · Score: 4, Funny

    In those days the game world was smaller, and a single person could, through diligent gaming, acquire a thorough knowledge of every character class.

    Take L30n4rd0, the wizard/technologist/tank/healer/DPS/accountant. And he was good at all of them.

    Nowadays there's just too much to learn; you have to specialize :(

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  23. Re:You are lost in a maze of twisty little threads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    the really early puzzle games ... That's when I tended to eject the floppy

    Floppy? You think floppies were "really early"? You're kidding, right? The early puzzle games came on cassette tapes, and took half an hour to load. The really early ones came on punched cards.

    Also, you're on my lawn. Fix that.

  24. Re:You are lost in a maze of twisty little threads by Kaukomieli · · Score: 2, Funny

    ME: Pick up saber

    Computer: I don't understand "pick up"

    That's when I tended to eject the floppy and try to see how far I could toss it.

    Usually a quick look around would help you find the right word. The good old times when one had to actually read the text and not mindlessly click the highlighted words in the text.

    ME: look

    Computer: You are standing in a dusty room. The ceiling is clogged with webs from long dead spiders and the windowpanes have gone blind, giving the room an abandoned feeling. A musty odour fills your nostrils. The floor is covered in a dusty carpet. In the twilight you can make out a door to your east and when to the north.
    An ancient knight's armour with a big claymore, once placed at the western wall has fallen over, it's parts now scattered on the carpet.

    ME: pick up claymor

    Computer: I don't understand claymor

    ME: puck up claymore

    Computer: Learn to type you moron!

    ME: take claymore

    Computer: You stagger under the weight of the big sword. You can barely carry it and how someone could weild this in a fight is beyond you. ...

  25. Re:perhaps they realize.. by splug · · Score: 2, Funny

    One hour. Seriously, that is how long it took me to complete Portal the very first (and only) time I played it.

    He's just grumpy becuase he found out that the cake was a lie!!!

  26. Re:Strange comment by turing_m · · Score: 2, Funny

    Shhh! Some game developers will figure out the obvious corollary - that if they only increase the size of the possible solution space until it is becomes impractical to try a breadth-first search, they will have created the next Day Of The Tentacle.

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