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Scrabulous Is Dead, Hasbro's Version Brain-Dead

eldavojohn writes "Sometime this morning, Facebook shut down Scrabulous to American and Canadian users. Scrabulous, we hardly knew ye." This is sadly unsurprising, now that Hasbro's finally taken legal action against the developers, after quite a few months of letting it go unmolested. Seems like they waited until there was an official Scrabble client available (also on Facebook), while the snappy and fuller-featured Scrabulous kept people interested in a 60-year-old board game. The official client, which is at least labeled a beta, is a disappointment. This is not a Google-style beta release, note: it's slow to load, confusing, and doesn't even offer the SOWPODS word list as an option, only the Tournament Word List and a list based on the Merriam-Webster dictionary. (Too bad that SOWPODS is the word list used in most of the world's English-speaking countries.) It also took several minutes to open a game, rather than the few seconds (at most) that Scrabulous took — it's pretty impressive, but not in a good way, that the programmers could extract that sort of performance from the combination of Facebook's servers and my dual-core, 2GHz+ laptop. The new Scrabble client has doodads like 3D flipping-tile animations, too, but no clear way to actually initiate the sample game that jamie and I have attempted to start. I hope that once we get past that obvious hurdle, we'll find there's a chat interface and game notebook as in Scrabulous, but my hopes are low.

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  1. If the Scrabulous people have any pride... by Lilith's+Heart-shape · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the people behind Scrabulous have any pride, they'll tell Hasbro to go fuck themselves. They did a better Scrabble than Scrabble, and rather than compete, Hasbro turned to the law.

    1. Re:If the Scrabulous people have any pride... by PFI_Optix · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hasbro would have done a lot better to do something like this:

      "We'll give you an endorsement and let you use the Scrabble logo and *not take legal action* if you will maintain certain standards and give us a cut of your advertising profits as a licensing fee."

      And then negotiate as fair a deal as both parties can agree upon.

      This is where modern copyright litigation really fails these companies: they're so quick to shut down anyone who might potentially be stepping into their IP, they're passing up really amazing opportunities at making use of their innovation. If these guys can do Scrabble so well, why not encourage them to do other Hasbro games in a way that makes Hasbro money?

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    2. Re:If the Scrabulous people have any pride... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is where modern copyright litigation really fails these companies: they're so quick to shut down anyone who might potentially be stepping into their IP, they're passing up really amazing opportunities at making use of their innovation.

      This has nothing to do with litigation or the law. That's a business decision of shooting themselves in the foot.

      However, in a free country, a business is entitled to shoot themselves in the foot. They can even choose which foot.

    3. Re:If the Scrabulous people have any pride... by AP31R0N · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Isn't Scrabble still under copyright? If it isn't in the public domain, and Scrabulous is a clone of Scrabble (which it is AFAICT), they have every right in the world to sue. They even took advantage of Scrabble's popularity by giving it a name that was similar. This appears to be no different than selling Leevi Jeens with the classic rivets.

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  2. Older than me! by sm62704 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We really REALLY need copyright reform. I'm 56 years old. Nothing ever created in my lifetime will reach the public domain while I still breathe, and no matter how young you are nothing created in your lifetime will reach the public domain either. And as this Scabble thing shows, it stifles creativity. When Newton said "if I see farther than other men, it is because I stand on the shoulders of giants" (and he wasn't the first to say that), the same could be said of art.

    Where would engineering be if patents were endless, like copyrights are? Endless copyrights stifle creativity. Where would Disney be without the Brothers Grimm? And how can we convince our governments that they are hindering artistic progress?

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    1. Re:Older than me! by Minwee · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And yet that darn pesky article seems to think otherwise.

      Hasbro also asked Facebook to remove the game for violating copyright law under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

      Which is it? If it is a trademark then the DMCA does not apply. The 'C' doesn't stand for 'Trademark'. And if they are claiming that this is a copyright violation then they are on pretty thin legal ice as there isn't a lot about the game which is copyrightable.

      So which is it? Copyright or trademark? Has Hasbro engaged in perjury by issuing a DMCA takedown notice over a trademark dispute, or are they pursuing an unwinnable copyright case?

  3. Re:same old story by zehaeva · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a Trademark issue, not a copying issue. GE profits on a name that is ancient, so does AT&T. Scrabulous is just too close to Scrabble as far as a brand name goes.

  4. Re:dumb idea. by Angostura · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And they still try and extort money from it? For fucks sake.

    Yes, well that's because the Trademark still has value. Why should the Scrabulous guys leech off the marketing millions that Hasbro pumped in over the years. If Scrabulous was good enough on its own terms to succeed without trademark leeching, they should have just called it something else: they would have succeeded irrespective.

  5. Milking their cash ponies by Jabbrwokk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most of Hasbro's board is so old they probably have to have oxygen tents built into the boardroom.

    That made me laugh out loud.

    And it's so true. Hasbro is living in the 1980s, still trying to make money off GIJoe and My Little Pony.

    They don't have enough tiles to make the word "innovate."

  6. Re:Slashdot filters need revision! by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We have quite a few board games in our house. We also have video games. They are both fun in their own respects. The nice thing about board games is so little development costs. They created over 60 years ago, and are still selling it for $15 for the basic, and $45 for the deluxe version (prices from Amazon). It is risky starting out, but once you have something popular it's easy to put out the same product year after year and rake in the money.

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