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Awesome Pics of CERN's Large Hadron Collider

mactard submitted a collection of insanely beautiful pictures of the Large Hadron Collider. I've always had a warm place for amazing photgraphs, and these really don't disappoint. Science really is beautiful sometimes.

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  1. 3rd photo by tgd · · Score: 5, Funny

    That 3rd photo looks an awful lot like a stargate.

    I'm assuming its a shot facing downwards, thus the pool of water or whatever that is, but it just looks cool.

    1. Re:3rd photo by Gromius · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You're not the first person to think so. It is suspicious that no answer is actually given....

    2. Re:3rd photo by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Truth is stranger than fiction...

      Turns out, the government really did have a Stargate Project -- it was just about psychics, not aliens. And they didn't find any. Of either.

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    3. Re:3rd photo by kestasjk · · Score: 4, Interesting

      While we're swooning over the LHC watch the Large Hadron Rap video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM (Don't worry, it's made by some of the people who work there and it's pretty funny, and sums it up nicely)

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    4. Re:3rd photo by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, the FIRST picture looks like the Flying Spaghetti Monster with it's clothes off.

      ... averts eyes ...

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    5. Re:3rd photo by lennier · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Turns out, the government really did have a Stargate Project [wikipedia.org] -- it was just about psychics, not aliens. And they didn't find any. Of either."

      Actually they did. You might want to read Mind-Reach, the 1977 original book about SCANATE, the SRI project that later became GRILL FLAME then was closed (at least officially) by the CIA under the name STAR GATE. Some of their 'hits' detailed in this book are pretty darn impressive.

      http://www.amazon.com/Mind-Reach-Scientists-Psychic-Abilities-Consciousness/dp/1571744142/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217800041&sr=8-1

      The tricky thing about remote viewing is not that it doesn't work, but that it's hard to separate the 'signal' from the 'noise'.

      And of course, the results are incompatible with assumptions made by some of our fundamental physical theories. Whatever information channel ESP uses, it does not appear to obey the inverse square law or respect light cones, so it's not EM-based. This makes it difficult to figure out how to maximise the effect, since we don't have a good mathematical model for how it works. Some scientists (or science-believing people, as opposed to active researchers) are uncomfortable with admitting this kind of uncertainty into their personal models of the universe. It's a lot easier to believe that we really do understand how the universe works than to realise that actually, we only understand parts of it and our working assumptions may need to be rethought.

      But when you get significant results that contradict theory, it's the theory that should change, if you're doing science.

      See also http://www.amazon.com/Extraordinary-Knowing-Science-Skepticism-Inexplicable/dp/0553382233/ref=pd_bbs_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217801555&sr=8-3

      and http://www.amazon.com/Extraordinary-Knowing-Science-Skepticism-Inexplicable/dp/0553382233/ref=pd_bbs_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217801555&sr=8-3

      for some very recent books detailing the experimental support for the reality of ESP.

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    6. Re:3rd photo by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Some of their 'hits' detailed in this book are pretty darn impressive.

      Care to relate any of them?

      The tricky thing about remote viewing is not that it doesn't work, but that it's hard to separate the 'signal' from the 'noise'.

      Which is, in essence, the definition of a cold reading.

      While I'm at it, check out Banachek.

      I'm not saying it's impossible, and I would agree with this:

      But when you get significant results that contradict theory, it's the theory that should change, if you're doing science.

      However, this being little more than a hobby, I don't really want to buy a book. If the results really are that compelling, there should be some web resource you can point me to.

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  2. The first comment on the article is hilarious. by Xenex · · Score: 4, Funny

    "This thing is going to kill us all."

    1. Re:The first comment on the article is hilarious. by Gromius · · Score: 5, Funny

      Look I've never understood what the LHC is going to kill us all thing. I'm a physicist working on the CMS experiment so perhaps I can explain what we are going to do more clearly. All we plan to do is take two proton beams or 'streams' and then cross them. Why is everybody so worried?

    2. Re:The first comment on the article is hilarious. by 3seas · · Score: 2, Funny

      "This thingis going to kill us all"

      Don't worry, be happy....... that if it does it will happen so fast that you won't know it.

      However become concerned if you live within 50 miles and the power in your home drops out around the time they turn it on.

  3. This looks like something from Half Life by Rooked_One · · Score: 3, Funny

    So, it begs the question - where's our savior, Gordan Freeman?

    1. Re:This looks like something from Half Life by Stormwatch · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nah... looks much more like the intro of Out of this World.

  4. Slashdot + page of high res photos by Anrego · · Score: 4, Funny

    .. this can't end well

    1. Re:Slashdot + page of high res photos by stiller · · Score: 2, Informative

      Try this: The photolab part of the Cern Document server, search query Maximilien Brice. The 'large' photos are quite large, but register for the high-res versions:

      http://cdsweb.cern.ch/search?ln=en&cc=CERN+PhotoLab&sc=1&p=Maximilien+Brice&f=&action_search=Search

  5. Valve will sue by eekygeeky · · Score: 4, Funny

    this is clearly copyright infringement.

  6. Re:My God... by halivar · · Score: 2, Funny

    Naw, it's gonna be filled with black holes.

    THE END IS NIGH! REPENT!!!

  7. Re:Arise! by pitchpipe · · Score: 2, Funny

    What is the condition called where you become sexually aroused by technology?

    Technopr0n!

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  8. Re:Large Hadron Rap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    My ears! The ear plugs do NOTHING!

  9. Sci-Fi Should Look so Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Next time some sci-fi movie wants to display a massive quasi-government experiment regarding anything, they should look this stuff over. So much cooler looking than the BS that most movies have.

  10. Obsoletely Amazing... by ClaraBow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is astonishing what man can accomplish when not at war!

    1. Re:Obsoletely Amazing... by antic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      +1 on amazing.

      I don't know how it works exactly, but it's massive, incredibly complicated and absolutely stunning. Something of a beacon to children becoming interested in science, I'm sure.

      A toast to the brains behind it and those who got it funded.

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      'Thats they exact same thing a banana wrench monkey.'
    2. Re:Obsoletely Amazing... by Arguendo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is inspiring to see so much human effort put into exploring the nature of our existence. Our species is truly just trying to make sense of it all.

  11. Re:Arise! by pitchpipe · · Score: 2, Funny

    What is the condition called where you become sexually aroused by technology?

    Technopr0n!

    Oops, that's the stuff that gets you there. What I meant to say was C!@L!$

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  12. the most impressive thing by Gromius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I always find the most impressive things about the detectors is the cabling that you have to do. The CMS ECAL has at least 61,200 cables to read out all the the crystals, the tracker (first photo) also has thousands and thousands of cables. Trying to wire the damn thing up is an epic task (one I'm happy to have avoided) and trust me, you dont want to screw up.

    1. Re:the most impressive thing by drooling-dog · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I was thinking the same thing. Could this be the most complex device ever assembled by humankind? Just the diagnostics and debugging seems way beyond daunting.

    2. Re:the most impressive thing by tijnbraun · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And what about reproducibility?.
      It would be rather hard too say "Oh yeah, I confirmed that experiment in my laboratory". If something would be wrong wired and thereby giving some false positives, how do you test for those? They must have some redundant checking mechanism somewhere...

    3. Re:the most impressive thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's tested with processes which were already observed on other experiments. There is awful lot of testing during preparation phase (but also in first year or so), test beams were used during construction of some detectors, cosmic muons that you can detect without beam that produces particles, and, finally, simulations which help to predict detector output. Also there are many different test procedures to check if hardware is properly assembled (or even working properly).

      Systematics is a term for that kind of issues. It's possible, or even likely, that detector has "bugs" and doesn't produce entirely true result. This is the primary reason why two conceptually different detectors for the same thing are built (CMS and ATLAS), to proove that whatever is observed is really there.

    4. Re:the most impressive thing by Gromius · · Score: 2, Insightful

      you're telling me. Trying to figure out if the damn thing is working is an epic task. It takes hundreds of scientists, all testing little parts to commission these things. And trust me everything that can go wrong will go wrong. Right now I'm writing monitoring software to ensure that we can trigger electrons and photons and to diagnose problems when they occur and its a huge pain in the ass. And when we think its working, even then we will have a round the clock team in place to continuously monitor it addition to the team that actually operates it.

  13. Blueprint for an alien invasion by fullgandoo · · Score: 5, Funny

    If this wasn't designed by inter-galactic aliens, i'll eat my hat. I can't think of any purpose of this machine other than them beaming down their armies as soon as the thing is fully powered.
    Search for exotic particles? Yeah right!

    1. Re:Blueprint for an alien invasion by White+Flame · · Score: 4, Funny

      If this wasn't designed by inter-galactic aliens, i'll eat my hat.

      I don't think eating tin foil is that great an idea...

  14. Re:Arise! by srjh · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let me guess... it's giving you a hadron?

  15. .. about the size of a pea. by Channard · · Score: 3, Funny

    It does look impressive. Now all we need is an undead assassin to tow it out into space attached to a giant insect. Before we all die horribly.

  16. Yes, it does run linux by mad+zambian · · Score: 5, Informative
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  17. Don't cross the streams by v1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dr. Egon Spengler: There's something very important I forgot to tell you.
    Dr. Peter Venkman: What?
    Dr. Egon Spengler: Don't cross the streams.
    Dr. Peter Venkman: Why?
    Dr. Egon Spengler: It would be bad.
    Dr. Peter Venkman: I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad"?
    Dr. Egon Spengler: Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
    Dr Ray Stantz: Total protonic reversal.
    Dr. Peter Venkman: Right. That's bad. Okay. All right. Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon.

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  18. Holy Shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Picture 5, I just spotted the Higgs Boson! Oh no wait, hold on. False alarm folks. Just a dead pixel.

    1. Re:Holy Shit! by labnrrd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It took several billion Euros to build the LHC. This is a beautiful picture of the servers that control and manage it. Does anyone else find it odd that they couldn't get a flat screen monitor?

  19. ET technology by SpaceGoret · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is so beautiful. It looks like extra-terrestrial technology.

  20. Impressive by Greenmoon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've never seen such a complex array of technology outside a Hollywood or video game mock-up. It must be very exciting for the folks on the design team to see this coming together.
    And kudos to the photographer(s) who captured these. That was a smart move, collecting such high-res images.
    Very nice.

  21. The Big Picture by DrHanser · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Big Picture photoblog is quite good. I've been subscribed to its RSS feed for nearly a month now, and it never disappoints.

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  22. Wow! by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2, Funny

    Let me be the first to say: That's a LOT of zip ties...

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  23. Dates? by drinsilence · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Article says: "The European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) is preparing for its first small tests in early August, leading to a planned full-track test in September - and the first planned particle collisions before the end of the year" anyone knows the specific dates for these events?

    1. Re:Dates? by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

      Deceember 21, 2012, according to the Mayans.

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  24. Re:Arise! by hemorex · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Did the same to me, but then, I couldn't help thinking 'goatse' the whole time I was looking at the pictures.

  25. machine porn vs beautiful science by somethinsfishy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The tools are beautiful objects, to be sure. But what makes beautiful science is elegant, concise, and simple (within the context) descriptions of how the universe works.

  26. Re:LHC by MrKaos · · Score: 2, Funny

    Man's technology has exceeded his grasp.

    Whitespace is one of the technologies it would seem.

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    My ism, it's full of beliefs.
  27. I wanted to try and find by caluml · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wanted to try and find the location of the last pic in Google maps. So I went to maps.google.com, and typed in Lake Geneva. It suggested something called "Lake Geneva", WI. I thought, OK, typical Americanocentrism, so I searched for Lake Geneva, Switzerland, and ended up with "Lake Geneva Uninc Switzerland County, IN". I zoomed out of that place a fair way, and I couldn't see any water. What gives? Brin, you listening?

    1. Re:I wanted to try and find by caluml · · Score: 4, Informative

      But this this is a lot better. Has an overlay, with the rings on it.

    2. Re:I wanted to try and find by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's because the real name is lake Leman, not Geneva, dont know why english folks use the Geneva town name for the lake

    3. Re:I wanted to try and find by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You just reminded me of an LHC fact my professor told me a year or so ago: when lake geneva is particularly full, the *country* bends enough that CERN have to take it into account. It's just that sensitive.

  28. Re:LHC by ralewi1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From the lhcdefense.org site - "61% of over 250,000 participants in an AOL survey say that operating the LHC is not worth the risk"

    Yes, we must end all science until at least 51% of all AOL users agree that it is safe.

  29. The comments by nightfire-unique · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The comments on that page are as depressing as the pictures are beautiful and impressive. :(

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  30. Re:System Shock by kvezach · · Score: 4, Funny

    Look at you, poster... a pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you wait for your karma reward. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal supercollider?

  31. Re:The "Time Projection Chamber" by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

    You posted that same question yesterday.

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  32. Re:Holy Navy? Astartes here by KGIII · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, if it does happen I expect you to come back to this thread and say you're sorry.

    *nods*

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  33. Re:Mon Dieu! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is for sure the stuff that sets Man apart from Animal!

    Oh, please. The rats keep trying to build a cyclotron in my basement.

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  34. Re:cyclic illogic by habig · · Score: 2, Informative

    Let's review the messed-up logic:

    cyclic illogic #2

    2A) Because input stimuli in the LHC happen in nature all of the time, the LHC is perfectly safe.

    versus

    2B) We have spent billions of Euros on this thing, because we have never observed the outcomes of the LHC in nature.

    1A and 1B cannot both be true. 2A and 2B cannot both be true.

    Your cyclic illogic has a fatal flaw. Just because we know these things happen in nature all the time doesn't mean we can easily study them. However, we know they happen, the Earth has survived 4.5by of them, and we're not dead yet. Ergo, they can't be too dangerous.

    Mother Nature does hit the Earth with collisions of LHC energies on up all the time and has been doing so since the beginning. Although we know this because we can see the results with cosmic ray experiments, they are unusual enough that we can't build a detector of the quality being done here, fly it to the upper atmosphere, then sit and wait for decades for that interaction to occur where we can study it to see what happens. On the other hand, build this thing, aim it where you want, and watch zillions of such interactions occur right where they can be studied.

    And yes, I Am A Physicist, specializing in the study of cosmic rays. I even happen to be sitting shift at the moment on an experiment at Fermilab, watching a lower energy particle beam zap my experiment every 2.2 seconds. Beep. Beep. Beep.

  35. Higgs Photo Here by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you are looking for a picture of a Higgs try this one which shows a Higgs at ATLAS.

  36. Petabytes by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2, Informative

    They have enough bandwidth to transfer datasets that are measured in terabytes to universities around the world.

    Actually the datasets are now measured in petabytes. The first test petabyte of data, for ATLAS at least, was transfered out of CERN in 2006.

  37. Not quite... by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2, Interesting

    According to Wikipedia, 95% confidence interval is 114 to 140 GeV/c2.

    That is if you fit it to the Standard Model. Since we have no idea if the SM holds to LHC energies you cannot really believe that as a real bound. In fact, if we measure the Higgs at 200GeV/c2 my guess is that we'd revisit some of the input measurements and find that the result is probably not as inconsistent as we originally thought i.e. take these limits with a LARGE grain of salt, they depend on a lot of different, complex measurements all being correct.

    What is far more certain is that we have to see something before 1TeV. At around this energy the probability of two W bosons scattering becomes greater than 100% without a Higgs present. Since any theory which gives a bigger than 100% probability of an event has got to be wrong there are only two possibilities:

    • We find a Higgs boson with a mass <1TeV/c2
    • We find something else which occurs before 1TeV in energy.

    This is one reason why the LHC is so exciting: we HAVE to see something. Either a Higgs boson, or hopefully something entirely different.