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NVidia Reportedly Will Exit Chipset Business
xav_jones sends along a story from X bit Laboratories claiming that NVidia is ready to quit making chipsets. That story links one from DigiTimes, which reports that NVidia has denied that it's getting out of the business. "[NVidia] is about to quit chipset business, which automatically means that the company's much-hyped multi-GPU SLI technology is either in danger or re-considered. Moreover, several mainboard makers have already ceased making high-end NVidia-based mainboards. [NVidia has]... reportedly decided to quit core-logic business to concentrate on development of graphics processors and following failure to secure license to build and sell chipsets compatible with Intel Corp.'s microprocessors that use Quick-Path Interconnect bus."
Nvidia released nice overclocking tools, had good BIOS options, nice features (such a firewall built directly into the NIC), etc.
I always buy NForce chipsets.
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/chipsets/print/20080801105547_Nvidia_Set_to_Quit_Chipset_Business_Multi_GPU_SLI_Tech_in_Danger.html
Several senior personnel who worked for the foundries which provided the faulty chips have been found dead in their homes. Though the deaths appear to be suicides, foul play has not been ruled out.
Hopefully this will mean that NVidia will open SLI support to the superior intel chipsets.
AMD / ATI chipset are good on board with side port ram, nice overclocking tools, hyper flash, pci-2.0. Cross fire works on any chip set as well.
Is the correct title to this story. See here. "The story on Digitimes is completely groundless. We have no intention of getting out of the chipset business."
"Mercury Research has reported that the Nvidia market share of AMD platforms in Q2'08 was 60%," Del Rizzo said. "We have been steady in this range for over two years."
"We're looking forward to bring new and very exciting MCP products to the market for both AMD and Intel platforms," Del Rizzo added.
Joel Hruska at Ars Technia appears to have spoken to NVidia, and the article he's written says NVidia is not going to quit the chipset market anytime soon. Looks like its just a rumor... http://arstechnica.com/journals/hardware.ars/2008/08/01/nvidia-to-ars-were-not-leaving-the-chipset-market
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I doubt this.. Anyway, one one hand, this won't be good for the market - less competition.
On the other, no flame here, recent NVIDIA products that I've used (although this is graphics, not a chipset as mentioned in the article), like in T61p, were quite buggy. So I won't be missing NVIDIA products.
Successful companies don't usually just pack it in and go home in market segments they've been in for a long time. Sure there are issues with some chipsets and certain features, but they're not going to just call it a day. Also, "failure to secure license"? So, what, Intel said "You can only make one bid to get a license," and nVidia failed and now quits? What about "ongoing negotiations"? This is for some IP, this isn't like the Yahoo-MS deal. It's in Intel's best interest to license QPI to nVidia, because it means more sales of Intel CPUs.
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So ... nVidia doesn't need to fix the thousands (possibly many many more) laptops that they've supplied bad parts for?
Or are they still in the graphics game, but not in the chipset game (can you do that?)
When the article says chipset, they mean the nForce, not the GeForce.
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I really like the Nforce chipset.
In my experience they have always been stable and well supported.
Where does this leave us AMD users... I'm still not quite the fan of the AMD chipsets as they haven't been around long enough... all of the "performance" boards were Nvidia based. My current board has an Nforce 570.
How does the AMD 780 compare? Anyone?
Never mind the actual truth! Has Netcraft confirmed it? Or at least has Gartner predicted it will happen?
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Although this story seems groundless, it does look like the ties between CPU and chip set are getting stronger. This seems to be one of the reasons for ATI to be taken over by AMD. Intel was already creating its own chip sets and has a monopoly on defining an interface between the two. This is an interesting relationship since it would seem that the CPU is only part of the machine nowadays. I'm expecting that this relationship will turn around somewhere in the distant future.
With Intel it was always hard to sell your own chip set against theirs (for the desktop market). Now it will get harder with AMD as well, since they have the ATI chip sets to think about. It would be strange if there would not be some casualties. Hopefully nVidia is big enough to keep some chip sets around for some time. VIA has already given up, I hope their gamble on the embedded market pays off, although they will have pretty strong competition there as well.
Thank god! Nvidia chipsets aren't good.
I was never happy that nVidia got into the chipset business in the first place. If any company has a talent to specialize and do one thing really really well (in a competitive environment), then that is what they should continue to concetrate on. nVidia seems to have talented people who can ultimately bring us photorealistic graphics at high performance for our games, as well as other engineering, and creative needs. I really frown on companies that water down their core business by diversifying into areas which they shouldn't be messing about in.
This kind of thing seems to happen quite often and in other ways. For example, John Carmack seemed to really have a talent in producing great engines for games on the bleeding edge of what is possible with new PC technology. John drove PC gaming technology. But what does John do? John goes off to create rockets. And then he journeys off to work on pocket devices, which are basically PCs from 1995 running Win31 with 16 bit graphics. ;( John has allowed Crytek and other engine creators to walk all over id software. (Or maybe John and his company never really were that great to begin with?)
The whole nVidia chipset fiasco is what brought about the feud between Intel and nVidia so that we, the consumers, could not buy a Intel motherboard chipsets with nVidia SLI graphics. Shame.
Focus! Focus! You will never be great at something unless you do it well and are the best at it. A jack-of-all-trades rambling about between different technologies will not make you great, or competitive.
Well what we gunna do with ATI?
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This story isn't about graphics. Please try to pay attention.
Didn't I just say the other day their chipset drivers - at least the IDE ones - were crap? I spent a fair amount of time reinstalling Windows XP for a client on a box with the NForce chipsets, and it was the IDE drivers that were hosing the install.
Stick to graphics, Nvidia, maybe you know how to do that.
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NVidia Reportedly Will Exit Chipset Business ..claiming that NVidia is ready to quit making chipsets.
NVidia has denied that it's getting out of the business.
Wait, what was this news about again?
Especially since AMD still seems to suck at making chipsets for their own boards. I use Intel processors myself but all the AMD fans I know recommend nVidia chipsets. As long as AMD doesn't do a good job in that market, I can't see nVidia leaving entirely.
Also as far as I know, nVidia has been able to get a QuickPath license. Basically Intel was annoyed that nVidia was playing hardball on SLI licenses. You may note that nearly all Intel boards are Crossifre only, despite ATi now being owned by AMD. Reason was they didn't have the license to implement SLI technology on their boards. So as far as I'm aware nVidia and Intel worked out a deal so Intel gets to use SLI and nVidia gets to use QuickPath.
"The story on Digitimes is completely groundless. We have no intention of getting out of the chipset business."
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The rest is here http://techreport.com/discussions.x/15240
At least the article isn't a dupe, but Slashdot found a way of making this news for nerds since we geeks have to fix ze mistakes
After 4 years, they're the only ones supporting GLSL. In today's inflation, you need to have 40% earning growth in dollars to break even. nVidia isn't doing that.
Nvidia should have been managing their company properly! What a bunch of wimps! Intel will get a hearty laugh out of this.
it was true. Then nVidia could focus on debugging their Vista video card drivers
I had been using an Nvidia Nforce4 SLIx16 chipset for two years and it is the best chipset I have ever used. If Nvidia quits the chipset business, even if it is not right now, I will be very disappointed. Ok, it had some minor glitches, like the heat pipe melts the plastic tabs off my graphics cards. But, that was probably my fault because I have got seven fans on it, and it is water cooled, so it is pulling the heat too rapidly. But, honestly, I would not trade it for any other chipset on the market today.
...is that NVidia is working on an Intel-compatible CPU.
My speculation:
They're probably shuffling resources internally, Their chipset designers might be working on the chipset to interface with their CPU.
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This is a highly unlikely move for NVIDIA. Check out this article for good info on why not:
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=601
Maybe out in 5 years, but not anytime soon.
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Phew. For a second I thought I would have to go back to VIA chipsets. *shudder*
Their NIC teaming software blows chunks.
Intel is going out of the CPU business. True story!
The story is about Nvidia managing badly.
MOD PARENT UP.
Nvidia is managing badly in other ways, also, than supplying poor quality software; this Slashdot story is not an isolated occurrence. For example, All Nvidia G84 and G86s are bad. Or see All Nvidia G84 and G86 chips faulty?. Or, Nvidia Likely to Confirm Scale of Chip Troubles Soon.
But given the mutual problems with licensing (NVidia refusing to license SLI technology to Intel, and Intel paying back by making it difficult to license Quickpath for nVidia), this could sound realistic. They could actually stop producing Intel chipset for Nehalem.
It' prank, but at least it's one which sound realistic.
It's actually possible that they'll drop the towel for Nehalems, and shift to only support AMDs and lower end Intel Cores still running with an actual north bridge, and require that hardcore gamer wanting to have both SLI and Nehalem on the smae high end PC to buy expensive motherboard that feature both intel chipset and an additional nVidia to enable SLI like on current SKull Trail mother board (basically just a glorified PCIe 2.0 bridge with additional licensing icing on the cake).
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Apple announced today that it {...} will only sell hype, in pretty packages of course.
I fail to see how this is any different from the current situation. :-P
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Someone might be in bed with some stock-shorters?
I don't care about karma at this point.. I'm sorry, but has google news under the Tech category become the new Slashdot?
I saw this article YESTERDAY before it hit here on slashdot. I'm sorry /. ... it's been a good ride but you're outdated.
The nforce 6xx series chipsets were a striking failure. They did not work properly.
No motherboard manufacturer can claim 6xx boards with few problems.
They're using their grammar skills there.
Kdawson is a bit late on this one... The NV story came out a few days ago and was then proven incorrect.
I always shied away from using nforce raid (instead using md-raid), since I could never be sure the array would work on newer versions (though I'm led to believe that it would actually work).
If this is even half true, I hope it scares nvidia raid users enough to check their backups (or start making some), or perhaps purchase a second motherboard to use as replacement, while they still can.
With md-raid, I've switched motherboards several times and the array just comes up without any trouble.
Max.
I hope it's true. After the 700 series chipset video corruption/freeze crap, they should exit the chipset business forever.
The nForce2 Chipset with SoundStorm, Hardware based realtime 5.1 Dolby Digital encoding was something great...
:(
But since then i don't think nForce chipset where anything special. Sure, supposedly great overclocking, but only with boards that cost $300.
Then there was the never ending tale of Data corruption, supposedly fixed 2 billion times, but apparently never fully.
And the Firewall features? Well, great, but since it's uses the CPU anyway so i rather use ZoneAlarm, more control that way too.
It's too bad though, with no real competition left, i don't think i will ever see that truely awesome board with hardware based gigabit nics and hardware based 7.1 dts/dd encoding
Put the brain in idle for a moment. Forget the market dependency on MSWindows. Assume that Linux will actually compete in the games market in a year or two.
PPC core(s) with NVIDIA chipset. Or maybe ARM, multi-core, cranked up to 2GHz and extended to 64 bit. Use their graphics cores instead of the traditional vector units.
(Don't nobody wake me up, this is a sweat dream.)
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So the job they do there is not to actually do any original reporting. All they do is subscribe to the local Taiwanese print newspapers and go through the tech sections looking for stories to translate and summarize. This is why you get so many bogus stories coming out of there. Anything you can get published in any small-time local newspaper that has anything to do with tech is likely to get picked up there. Rather than trying to confirm anything, they just print retractions constantly.
Then forget Intel and their closed patented Quick-Path Interconnect and make chipsets for other processors that aren't so anal about people trying to improve their products. Hummm, who could that be?
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nVidia/Alpha_21364!
Alpha was the only one that was optimized for Rambus, hand-coded to the clock, and it has the highest bandwidth.
I don't see a nVidia solution to Sun Microsystem's Sparc line though. Do you all see what Intel has done to the market? Intel is as rotten as Microsoft. Break Intel down for Anti-Trust violations it committed in the past.
doesn't mean it isn't true. Companies deny things than backtrack all the time.
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Is anyone brought to tears by this announcement? Is anyone other than myself rejoicing? Every Nvidia POS I ever bought was a complete piece of junk. I'd buy something worthless like the ASUS VT333 w/ RAID and get screwed by the onboard Nvidia shit. I'd swear off Nvidia but forget about it in a year or two only to find myself pulling a dumbass move and buying another Nvidia piece of shit. Of course I'd get burnt again. Nvidia and their chipsets can rot in hell for all I care. There's no love lost here.
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Bit worse than it not selling baked goods.
Thank $DEITY nVidia is exiting! Sun will be forced to throw aay shitty nVidia NICs and back to proven Intel ones.
From 4x intel in x4200, thru 2x intel + 2x nvidia in x4200 m2, to 4x nvidia in x4240...
What about the Tesla Systems.
Nvidia has some serious number crunching compared to ATI and a better Tool Kit in Cuda then ATI with CTM.
I don't understand how the best GPU company isn't doing good?