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Why Microsoft Cozied up to Open Source at OSCON

This year at OSCON it seemed that you couldn't throw a stone without hitting someone from Microsoft (and in fact, I'm sure several people did). They were working very hard to make themselves known, and working desperately to change public opinion of Microsoft's involvement in the open source community. Linux.com's Nathan Willis took a look at what they were preaching, with a hefty dose of skepticism, and tries to postulate what the "angle" is. Of course, the powers that be at Microsoft may have finally seen the writing on the wall and felt the pressure from Google enough to alter their strategy a bit. For now I guess we'll have to wait with guarded optimism (or laughable contempt, depending on how old/jaded you are).

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  1. All together now: by MisterSquirrel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Embrace, Extend....

    1. Re:All together now: by WankersRevenge · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Microsoft cannot extinguish a methodology no matter how much they want to. Sure, they can manipulate the governing systems, they can sue people for "patent infringement" and other garbage, but at the end of the day, open source will continue to proceed unabated.

    2. Re:All together now: by alx5000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Take two... Extinguish!

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    3. Re:All together now: by SL+Baur · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I am lost. Just what is Microsoft supposed to do to make people who use (F)OSS happy?

      Open up their protocols/file formats so that non-Microsoft tools can interact with them. Otherwise, I really don't care. They've made too many mistakes in the past (Outlook, ActiveX, auto-executing document macros/email attachments/media) for me to ever trust them with anything important.

      I like Unix and the Unix shell. I like KDE. I like the way X11 networks. For any system that I rely on, I must have source code that I can fix and recompile. I see no reason to ever switch. One size does not fit all, and I'm O.K. with that.

  2. I for one welcome ... by hachete · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... nah. No I don't.

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  3. MS cannot be trusted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches.

    --Steve Balmer

  4. Re:MS Open Source is a Web Fallback by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Google has failed in web apps fairly well,
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    Google needs to release its web office applications as a server that can be installed in a corporate datacenter. That would allow corporations to maintain full and auditable control over their data, while leaving the high cost of MS Office behind.

  5. Cashing the GNU by Lucas.Langa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What about this crazy idea:

    1. take an interesting open-source project Foobar
    2. if there's a need of new feature, write them
    3. hell, even release the changes as open source as well
    4. package it as Microsoft Foobar
    5. sell the product like mad in ways no other company is capable of (think OEMs, institutions, government, lawyers, etc.)
    6. PROFIT

    Yeah, there even doesn't have to be a "???" step.

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  6. Re:MS Open Source is a Web Fallback by ionix5891 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    that goes against google's core principle of hoarding as much data as possible

  7. Microsofts biggest threat is the GPL, not OSS. by miffo.swe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The biggest hurdle between Microsoft and open source is the GPL. Because of how the license is written its very hard for Microsoft to embrace and extend any project written in GPL, especially GPLv3. Even if Microsoft somehow should manage to get the lead developers of some high profile projects away enough people exists that would just fork and ignore them completely.

    I expect Microsoft to put much effort into trying to get more projects to use for example the BSD or Apache license instead of the GPL. Some people might but i suspect most peope are smart enough to realize all they are after is another chance at doing a Kerberos on other peoples hard work.

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  8. Re:This should be obvious... by TheDarkener · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Listen, I hate to break this to you and *every damn person* (nothing personal, you're far from the only one) that thinks the mere mention of chairs whenever the topic of Steve Ballmer- or even just MS- comes up is funny... it's not.

    Yes it is.

    Secondly, most of the "jokes" aren't; they just mention chairs.

    Which is all that's needed to rekindle the fire that apparently got Ballmer's ass so hot he had to throw it.

    This shouldn't be mistaken for true group-shared humour. Whether it's funny is irrelevant. People don't even bother making true jokes about it any more, they just mention chairs as a shortcut. It's canned humour... it's cargo cult humour, because most of those jokes have lost sight of what was meant to be funny in the first place. They just go through the motions of mentioning Ballmer on the assumption that it's "funny".

    Actually, something that's "funny" is based purely on individual perception. Given that most people around SD *still*, after 3 years, mention the Olympic event of chair-throwing (ha ha!), they still find humorous value in it. You can't tell someone that something isn't funny if they think it is. That's like telling someone "You don't like cheese." If they actually do like cheese, you're just trying to tell them what they like. Which is exactly what you're trying to do in your comment.

    Do we actually think it's funny any more? Do we actually think that others find it funny any more? Or do we just all know that everyone else has implicitly agreed that this topic is considered funny?

    Yes, yes, and no. Again, something is funny to someone when they think it's funny. Obviously, a LOT of people think that a balding, fat billionaire throwing a chair and screaming like a toddler because someone left their company for another, more honest and progressive company...well sh*t yeah, that's funny as hell!! Hahahahahaha!

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  9. Re:MS Open Source is a Web Fallback by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Informative

    that goes against google's core principle of hoarding as much data as possible

    Google sells a server you can drop in to index your internal corporate network, dropping in a similar apps server doesn't seem any different from a 'data hoarding' perspective.

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  10. Laugable contempt, please. by Hasai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "....or laughable contempt, depending on how old/jaded you are...."

    Yup; very old, very jaded. I was bossing mainframes when little Billy Gates was still sleeping on computer room floors, and I have yet to see anyone who didn't eventually get stabbed in the back by little Billy and his pack of thugs.

    Just wait for it. They've always gotten away with it, so there's no reason for that pack of rats to change their ways now.

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    Hasai