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VIA Quits Motherboard Chipset Business

arcticstoat writes "Following the media hit that was VIA's Nano processor, VIA says that it's now quitting the motherboard chipset business that used to be its bread and butter product for years. VIA's vice president of corporate marketing in Taiwan, Richard Brown, explained that: 'Intel provides the vast majority of chipsets for its processors and, following its purchase of ATI, AMD is also moving very quickly in the same direction.' VIA will still be developing chipsets for integrated motherboards featuring the Nano CPU, but will no longer produce chipsets for Intel and AMD CPUs. Was this the right decision, and where does this leave other third-party chipset manufacturers such as SiS?" Seems like this is a tough business to stick around in.

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  1. too bad by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Insightful

    competition is a good thing.

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    1. Re:too bad by bloodninja · · Score: 4, Insightful

      competition is a good thing.

      Especially in the bottom layer of a vertical market that is so critical to our everyday lives. I fear a world with one dominant processor manufacturer. Much as I fear a world with one dominant software manufacturer.

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    2. Re:too bad by phulegart · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You don't mean "also" do you?

      Because that would mean you would fear a world with ONE dominant processor manufacturer who make the whole motherboard. That's what the parent said.

      We currently HAVE two, and VIA intends to make it three.

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    3. Re:too bad by Abreu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I for one, welcome our new racing-to-the-bottom overlords.

      Maybe that way, the gaming software people will focus on gameplay innovations, instead of making ever larger and slower eyecandy

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  2. First Post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    where does this leave other third-party chipset manufacturers such as SiS?

    Up shit creek without a paddle?

  3. Goodbye VIA by Jellybob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can't understand making that move at all.

    Sure there may be competition in the market, but at least it's a market they're already a big player in.

    Attempting to jump into the CPU business (almost) exclusively is likely to kill them, since AMD and Intel have the market fairly well tied up.

    1. Re:Goodbye VIA by bloodninja · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can't understand making that move at all.

      Sure there may be competition in the market, but at least it's a market they're already a big player in.

      Attempting to jump into the CPU business (almost) exclusively is likely to kill them, since AMD and Intel have the market fairly well tied up.

      That's just the thing: they seems to have the resources for competing in only one of the markets. They choose the market that will offer them the most freedom of innovation. Additionally, it is a much more visible market, arguably a more critical market, and a market that is expanding faster than Intel and AMD can keep up (at least for small, handheld devices). Better to have the #3 slice of a huge pie than the #1 slice of a smaller pie.

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    2. Re:Goodbye VIA by y86 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I can't understand making that move at all.

      It's a LOT easier to make parts for your own stuff. I'm sure it's quite a fracken battle to get the specs out of intel and AMD on their new CPU's while their also completing against via on the chipsets that the cpus will run on.

      If you were trying to make a competing part for a car I was making, which I was also selling parts for.... I would definitely put up every barrier possible.

      With an 18 month turn around on CPU speed, I bet it's VERY hard for via to keep up with intel and amd on the chipset front.

    3. Re:Goodbye VIA by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Attempting to jump into the CPU business (almost) exclusively is likely to kill them, since AMD and Intel have the market fairly well tied up.

      It's a good thing the folks at AMD didn't think like you when considering taking a leap at Intel's customers years ago.

  4. Seems like the right choice by bestinshow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a sensible choice for VIA, for the reasons they have given. It's been on the table for quite some time I imagine.

    However a big thanks have to go out for them for their initial support of the AMD Athlon platform back in the day. Even if they had chipset problems since then...

    Now, however, they are quite a bit behind in terms of chipsets for desktop systems.

    I'd like to see a Nano with built-in chipset (memory controller, GPU at least) or even a SoC (Nano, Memory Controller, GPU, USB, Ethernet, SATA, Audio, ...) in the future, and now they can allocate resources to achieve this.

  5. Where does this leave SiS? by UserChrisCanter4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My guess is occupying the same sub-par penny-pinching section of the market they always did. Save $10, and in exchange you got to deal with chipsets that often had fundamental flaws, known bugs, and drivers that fixed some problems while causing others.

    But don't worry, because said chipsets were often located on "high quality" boards that could always be counted on to be constructed in the cheapest manner possible. Bad caps? That's too easy; I want heatsinks that fall off the chipset, voltage problems on PCI slots, and physical layout that looks as though it was designed by a blind man using NASA's English-to-Metric conversion tools.

    To this day I am convinced that a large amount of the "Windows Sucks and always crashes" reputation in the post-9x era is due largely to VIA, SIS, and (God help us) Acer Labs (ALi) coupled with the sub-par manufacturers that leaned heavily on these chipsets.

    1. Re:Where does this leave SiS? by wendyo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      except intel has always been the number one chipset manufacturer. and guess what, if you put linux on the same box it doesn't "suck and always crash".

  6. Re:Right Decision by gmack · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The only chip set I hated more than VIA was SIS.

    SIS could out glitch VIA every time.

  7. This puts VIA in good shape by Morgaine · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > I can't understand making that move at all.

    It makes a lot of sense. They were always chasing tail lights when developing chipsets to support Intel + AMD CPUs, whereas now they'll be in exclusive control of their device interface specifications and no longer be competing against chipsets from those other manufacturers.

    It's good on all fronts for VIA.

    It's less good for customers of Intel and AMD since some competition disappears, but I don't think that that will really matter. Both Intel and AMD make their large profits from CPUs, not from their motherboard chipsets as those are not "sexy" enough to command large margins, so competition from VIA didn't actually have any significant impact on chipset pricing.

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  8. Best decision Via ever made. by ahfoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Via's whole weakness has been this bi-polar nature where their bread-and-butter was the chipsets that made them have to kiss ass to Intel to make sure they were privy to the proprietary data they needed to keep their chipsets compatible. That left their own CPUs and boards as the ugly step-daughter.

    I remember when the Epias first came out here in Taiwan. You had to order them from England. There was no retail channel effort at all. I got really frustrated at this and went all over the island trying to get a local board and I slowly learned the story of Via's long-term mismanagement. For years it was owned by the daughter of a mega rich guy who had passed away and who really pissed away a lot of opportunities with clueless management. Their stock has been a local loser for years. The success of the MiniITX platform was nearly wasted due to this kind of problem so this is awesome news. Finally they're gonna go for it.

    It's not just the boards. It's also about the PSUs and the other accessories that go along with these mini-PC platforms. This is a huge opportunity, but they've got to make it accessible. The prices certainly have to come down with the Atom platform and Nvidia's Tegra going coming in at well below a hudred bucks for boards that do 1080i and not so bad 3D, but Via can totally be a player in this new system-on-a-chip world order and unlike Nvidia they've got at least a record of trying to reach out to Linux users.

    Oh and to Barry Lagina--
    Competition is by no means an inherently good thing. In fact, that attitude that competition is a virtue embodies much of what is wrong with America today.