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Who Owns Your Online Networking Contacts?

Ben Morris writes "A recent judgement in the UK courts has forced a former employee to hand over details of his business contacts built up through LinkedIn.com while he was employed by his former company. The decision is one of the first in the UK to show the tension between businesses encouraging their employees to use social networking websites, and trying to claim that the contacts should remain confidential when they leave."

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  1. This happened to the guy I replaced by lantastik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Apparently some other members of the company had been contacted by recruiters and they started going through email and found some emails in violation of the non-compete clause. They then solidified their case through the former employee's LinkedIn contacts. The guy ended up settling out of court and they drilled him financially.

    After finding that out, I went through my LinkedIn contacts and removed ALL the recruiters on there I didn't know on a personal level. I then contacted the recruiters remaining on my list and asked them to contact me before sending any InMail to any of my LinkedIn contacts.

  2. It will be interesting when its Stateside by pillageplunder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    After RTFA, it appears as if the bloke in question set up his linkdin several weeks prior to him leaving. Of a more interesting nature, in my mind, is, at what point does an employer here in the States 'own' your contacts? Think about it. You've been on a site like the one mentioned in the article for lets say 5 years. You accept a position at a new company. Over the course of your 2 years being employed there, you add lets say 5 contacts. You then accept another position at another company, perhaps because you received a better job offer through this service. Can the comapny you are now leaving sue you in the US and obtain all of your contacts, even those prior to when you joined?
    Another question is, are you now in the position of having to list out any and all personal and professional contacts you have on various internet sites as a part of your disclosure when filling out your paperwork for a new company? Sort of like having to list patents, websites and other works you might already have prior to working somehwere?
    Time will tell I guess. this case seems pretty straightforward based on the limited article...but it sure will muddy up quick.

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  3. Re:Devil is in the details by oldspewey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think the more relevant bit from TFA is this:

    However, the issue here appears to be the contacts themselves and how they were uploaded to the sites - i.e. straight from Mr Ionâ(TM)s work address book.

    So remember kids - the lesson here is to build your network piece by piece and day by day, even if it's tedious.

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  4. Who owns your contacts? by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is a tricky question.

    The real question is, though, how does it impact on your and your former employer's life? A contact isn't some sort of IP. There's a person or a company on the other end of the address, phone number or mail address. How will they react to a company that browbeats you into handing over your, partly private, address book?

    If anything I'd send a mail to my contacts and tell them in no uncertain terms what my former employer did. Would you want to do business with a company where you have to watch constantly for backstabbing? I don't know if I'd really enjoy that.

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    1. Re:Who owns your contacts? by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just another example of social networking privacy issues. If your contact list was on your crackberry, you could give 'em the finger, secure in the knowledge that they'd never get hold of it.

      But if it's right out there on LinkedIn...Well shit. What do you do? Especially if some of the contacts you've made are more buddy-buddy than pure contact...Or hell, what about all the contacts you make in school? I know dozens of people working for tech companies all over.

      I know a manager in a corp that is competing directly with the corp I work for. We even BS industry specific crap back and forth; nothing truly private, but you know how the auditors get...But I knew this guy before either of us started working our current gigs. It would be easy to argue it as related or suggestive, but in reality it's just co-incidental.

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  5. Re:Devil is in the details by MacJedi · · Score: 5, Informative

    some people might say that a "list" is not the "property" of anyone.

    Those people would be wrong. Depending on your jurisdiction databases (lists) may be covered by copyright or database rights[1].

    1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_right

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  6. In Europe... by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...where they have decent employment and privacy laws this would never be allowed.

    Oh. Wait...

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  7. Re:Devil is in the details by Intron · · Score: 5, Funny

    The curvature is about 0 deg, 0 min, 1 sec per 100 feet, which is flat enough for engineering purposes.

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  8. Re:Devil is in the details by ArhcAngel · · Score: 5, Funny

    Depending on your jurisdiction databases (lists) may be covered by copyright or database rights[1].

    Databases want to be free!

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  9. Re:Devil is in the details by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    some might say that a list defines ownership.

    Huh?

    So, here's my list:

    1. Everything of yours.
    2. The lint in my pocket.
    3. All your base.
    4. Profit!

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  10. Good luck with that by BlueZombie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    To all you worker drones out there:

    • Always read what you sign.
    • Respect it to the letter
    • Whether you respect it beyond the letter, is up to you

    To all you bosses out there:

    • You can maybe force me to turn over an address book
    • But you cannot force me to turn over years of personal relationships I've carefully built
    • So treat me good while you have me
    • Or you'll miss me when I'm gone
  11. Re:Devil is in the details by TornCityVenz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh great...NASA just chimed in.

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  12. Re:Devil is in the details by MrMarket · · Score: 4, Insightful

    some people might say that a "list" is not the "property" of anyone.

    These people never spent years and money building and updating their customer lists.

  13. Re:Devil is in the details by slarrg · · Score: 4, Funny

    After converting to meters, NASA has confirmed the earth is a torus.