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First Images From 50-km Enceladus Flyby

CheshireCatCO writes "The first pictures from yesterday's flyby of Enceladus are now public. At closest approach, Cassini was set spinning to cancel out the apparent motion of Enceladus so as to capture unsmeared images during the 40,000-mph flyby. Although it wasn't clear that this would work (errors in pointing could easily have made the cameras miss their targets), the maneuver panned out beautifully, producing spectacular images of the surface. Images show the 'tiger stripes' at the south pole, including at least one location that has been identified as a source of a jet, as well as considerable vertical relief, easily visible thanks to the low sun-angle near the south pole at present. Processed, enhanced images should follow shortly."

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  1. Actually huge amount of terrain by deft · · Score: 4, Informative

    At first glance I thought these pics would be better if they were further back to get an idea of scale.

    Then noticed that the pictures are marked anywhere from 33 to 98 feet PER PIXEL. these pictures actually have quite alot of land below, and I think it's just the nature of the resolution and shot that make it look like its a much smaller scale.

    I'm glad there are scientists that study this that can make out alot more than I... but very happy this worked none-the-ess.

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    1. Re:Actually huge amount of terrain by OriginalArlen · · Score: 4, Informative

      See Emily Lakdawalla's pre-encounter blog piece for the Planetary Society, and follow-ups as the data's arriving.

      They flew over the south pole at a range of 30km at 50,000 relative speeds. The relative movement was so fast that they had to turn the entire s/c to point backwards before closest approach. There are some superb ("amateur") animations on the UMSF thread. (large, though, 60Mb or so each.) The realtime simulation is really mind-blowing. Just watch Enceladus scudding through the FoV of the ISS camera just after c/a. Superb, superb work by the Cassini team (as always!) This is certainly one of the biggest set-piece events of the entire mission after orbit insertion, others being Huygens, the first Titan flyby (that data took a lot of time to interpret, indeed the radar data is still being puzzled over as each narrow swath appears after another flyby - it's hard to do imaging through that pesky yet oh-so-interesting methane atmosphere) and the Iapetus encounter.

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    2. Re:Actually huge amount of terrain by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 3, Informative

      That'll actually take a little while, but we're working on it. The shadows should help interpret the topography, but it's a non-trivial analysis.

    3. Re:Actually huge amount of terrain by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are none (or few, anyway) in the South Polar region of Enceladus. That's what makes it interesting, the terrain appears to be quite young.

    4. Re:Actually huge amount of terrain by wooferhound · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here are some pictures from the Cassini site itself, not slashdotted
      http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/events/enceladus20080811/index.cfm

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  2. A pity by WetCat · · Score: 3, Funny

    I see no towns and roads...

    1. Re:A pity by OldManAndTheC++ · · Score: 4, Funny

      Patience dude, Google Street View hasn't even finished Mars yet!

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    2. Re:A pity by RuBLed · · Score: 3, Funny

      You are too optimistic. (you heard me right) I suggest you look carefully at the pictures because of the obvious visibility of off-road SUV tracks. There is also some kind of a silhouette on the 5th picture, it looks like a man, possibly Elvis.

    3. Re:A pity by Teun · · Score: 4, Funny
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    4. Re:A pity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Think about how many bibles you could have sent to Iraq with that Cassini money!

      Spreading the good news is more important than peeping dead space rocks.

      Isn't it?

    5. Re:A pity by pmontra · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually Cassini is a joint project between NASA, ESA and ASI, the Italian space agency which contributed the high gain antenna (the big parabolic one you see in Cassini pictures).

      Obviously Italy partecipates to ESA but keeps funding its own agency. The other major European countries do the same.

  3. NASA site and images by gzipped_tar · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/raw-images-list1.html
    This is the NASA page for the raw images from the flyby.

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    1. Re:NASA site and images by gzipped_tar · · Score: 4, Informative

      on pages 8-10 there are raw images for the ones used in the press release

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    2. Re:NASA site and images by bugg_tb · · Score: 5, Informative
  4. Already Slashdotted? by Snowblindeye · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Ciclops site seems to be unresponsive already. Nasa's coverage can be found here http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/events/enceladus20080811/index.cfm

  5. Wow, that's a lot of pixels by Kligat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For comparison, when the Mars Reconnaisance Orbiter took photos of the Martian moon Phobos, it did so at a 6.8m=1 pixel scale, which came out to a 3,374 by 3,300 pixel image for one side. If a scale of 20.2m=1 pixel on average is assumed on average for these, then a picture of the whole thing like would be about 22,074 by 22,074 pixels, or 487 megapixels. That's assuming they didn't even do the same locations twice from different angles or something.

    Does this mean I'll be able to switch from Phobos to Enceladus as my desktop background soon?

  6. science and perspective, and what a pity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How many billion dollars did we spend to get one or two postcard photos?

    About 1.7. If someone has more exact, up-to-date Cassini budget figures, let us know. For comparison, this is slightly less than 1/330th the budget to-date for the American war effort in Iraq. With a tenth of the war budget, we could send 3 or more likely 4 Cassini-class missions to every major planetary body in the solar system, and have the other 90% of the war budget to spend on eliminating world hunger 12 to 13 times over (I'm using the conservative estimate here and rounding down). Or whatever.

    But that's not the point. These images are not "postcards"; they are scientific-quality imagery; I believe CheshireCatCO elaborated on this somewhere else, perhaps even in the other slashdot story he linked in this very summary. $2 billion for postcards is unreasonable, but not so unreasonable for doing science in-situ at Saturn.

    Typical fucking Americans.

    Spirited attempt to round out your troll, but you already betrayed yourself an American yourself with that little "we're even spending bit.

    I read slashdot often but reply seldom enough I just do it anonymously. Jerks like you give anonymous posters a bad name and undermine the viability of communicating via the anonymity mechanism. I want to state for the record and for the readership that not all slashdot ACs are insufferable trolls, and that some valuable contributions are made by drive-by or lurking participants piecemeal, anonymously. I try to lead by example; feeding an obvious and unabashed troll will do no good of course, but offering useful commentary to others will.

    Anyway, I suspect that your post will receive its richly deserved troll or flaimbait moderation in due time.

    1. Re:science and perspective, and what a pity by TapeCutter · · Score: 3, Funny

      I for one welcome the Shrek of AC trolls.

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    2. Re:science and perspective, and what a pity by Illbay · · Score: 2, Funny

      For comparison, this is slightly less than 1/330th the budget to-date for the American war effort in Iraq.

      However, let the record show that the photographs revealed *NO* al-Qaeda bases on Enceladus. Had there been, just imagine the cost of getting Space Marines up there to clear the place out.

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  7. As someone who works daily with Cassini data by irbdavid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    (although not on the imaging/planetary science side of things), it's important to note how incredibly successful Cassini-Huygens has been. Projects such as Cassini are where the 'space' budget needs to be spent, not on trinkets like the International Space Station.

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    1. Re:As someone who works daily with Cassini data by Ogive17 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Even if the ISS appears to be a black hole for money, it does bring some collaberation between different space agencies and it also is a needed first step towards setting up more permanent (and useful) space bases.

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  8. Re:Why is this free? by CmdrGravy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dude, Enceladus is actually property of the British Crown. One of the conditions of allowing you Yanks up there to take a look is that the pictures are distributed for free.

  9. Re:Why is this free? by Stooshie · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... Millions of American taxpayer dollars have been spent gathering this priceless data that is totally unavailable in any other context ...

    Most space programs are internationally funded and carried out by universities of more than one country these days. Of course the data should be made available.

    ... I can guarantee you that any other nation's research programmes would not do this ...

    Yes they do

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  10. Yummy. by kiehlster · · Score: 3, Funny

    Enchiladas flyby. A dream come true. Oh wait...

  11. Re:Why is this free? by zrq · · Score: 3, Informative
    Mission overview

    Cassini-Huygens is an international collaboration between three space agencies. Seventeen nations contributed to building the spacecraft. The Cassini orbiter was built and managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. The Huygens probe was built by the European Space Agency. The Italian Space agency provided Cassini's high-gain communication antenna. More than 250 scientists worldwide are studying the data streaming back from Saturn on a daily basis.

  12. Looks like... by consonant · · Score: 3, Funny

    that's the whole Enceladus..

  13. Re:Why is this free? by Icarium · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's precisely because it was funded by taxpayer dollars that it's being given away for free.

    There are bucketloads of data that are not being released to the public - releasing photos of any quality is just plain good PR and the value of a normal light photo is almost inconsequential. Making your American Taxpayer jump through hoops to get hold of these photos would be counterproductive. Given your apparent overreaction (they're not releasing designs for fusion reactors after all) you appear to attach far greater importance to these pictures than they intrinsically possess.

    And if you think that US research is done totally in isolation, well guess again.

  14. So, does this count by hcdejong · · Score: 3, Funny

    as a drive-by shooting?