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Magpies Are Self-Aware

FireStormZ writes "Magpies can recognize themselves in a mirror, confounding the notion that self-awareness is the exclusive preserve of humans and a few higher mammals. It had been thought only four species of apes, bottlenose dolphins, and Asian elephants shared the human ability to recognize their own bodies in a mirror. But German scientists reported on Tuesday that magpies, a species with a brain structure very different from mammals, could also identify themselves. It had been thought that the neocortex brain area found in mammals was crucial to self-recognition. Yet birds, which last shared a common ancestor with mammals 300 million years ago, don't have a neocortex, suggesting that higher cognitive skills can develop in other ways."

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  1. Re:I knew magpies are quite "smart" by mcvos · · Score: 5, Funny

    Several other birds are also known for pretty amazing intellectual feats (symbolic language is a pretty famous one), considering their brain size.

    It's probably because of those scary velociraptor genes.

  2. Excellent news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now we can punish the thieving bastards by putting them in prison instead of just shooting them.

  3. Odd experiment in self awareness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    A few years ago they tried the red dot on the forehead mirror test with Congressmen but got no reaction. As a control they tried taping a $100 bill to their foreheads and all quickly recognized the bill and reached for it. In an even more bizarre twist they seem to be able to find the bill even when blindfolded. They seemed to sniff the air so it was assumed they could smell the bill. Even stranger still when they taped a $1 bill to their foreheads it got no reaction even when they weren't blindfolded. The researchers concluded Congressmen were amazing creatures worthy of more study. As to them being self aware the tests were inconclusive.

  4. Re:Roadside magpies by jambox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pheasants are one of the dumbest creatures imaginable. Ants have more nous. Are they a product of selective breeding like cows and sheep? If so, perhaps they've been bred for stupidity. Also politicians.

    I was walking in the forest near home once with my little boy when we saw a pheasant meandering along. When it saw us it froze and stood there stock still, presumably hoping we wouldn't notice it.

    When my son saw it, naturally (for a three year old) he charged straight towards it with his arms out, laughing. The pheasant looked pretty surprised and eventually bolted for the nearest bush. Hilariously, it just stuck it's head in while it's body and legs remained flat on the floor, completely exposed.

    Possibly one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.

    I think an animal should know it's in big trouble when it's easy meat for a human toddler.

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  5. Re:Magpies are evil. by jollyreaper · · Score: 5, Funny

    I saw other people walking around and assumed that the coast was clear and went on my merry way. However, said demon bird was waiting for me and attacked again. Why it didnt attack any of the other potential targets and instead wait for me I'll never know.

    Tippi Hedren, is that you?

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  6. Re:I knew magpies are quite "smart" by maglor_83 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I saw that on TV so it may be wrong.

    What?!

  7. Re:Roadside magpies by macshit · · Score: 5, Funny

    When my son saw it, naturally (for a three year old) he charged straight towards it with his arms out, laughing. The pheasant looked pretty surprised and eventually bolted for the nearest bush. Hilariously, it just stuck it's head in while it's body and legs remained flat on the floor, completely exposed. Possibly one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.

    Perhaps the rest of the peasants were on the other side of the bush.... waiting....

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  8. Re:Crows, for one by TummyX · · Score: 5, Funny


    you don't have to make a complex chirping weasel model to brain-freeze a chicken. just hold its head close to a surface, then draw a straight line with a marker starting on its beak and extending about 30cm. the chicken will stay there hypnotized for a couple of minutes.

    The chicken could be stunned because it is thinking: "WTF? Why is he drawing a straight line from my beak and onto the ground. Weird ass humans".

  9. Re:Crows, for one by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yah... and as I said to a girlfriend who once bemoaned the fact that my cat was good at catching birds.... when was the last time you saw a cat fly?

    Last night when I threw him across the room for scratching me?