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42% of Web Users Sneak Onto Others' Online Accounts

An anonymous reader writes "In an online survey, 42 percent of Internet users admitted to logging into other people's email and social networking accounts without their knowledge. The poll doesn't ask if passwords were found, granted, or stolen — which would make for further interesting results. The write-up summarizing the results defines the respondents as part of an "educated tech-readership" and questions the ethics of logging onto someone else's account, and whether those differ depending on the person and relationship."

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  1. (no subject) by woodchip · · Score: 5, Insightful

    or "auto-saved" in their web browser.

    1. Re:(no subject) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I am the real woodchip and that dangerous hacker has stolen my password.

      I am going to call the cops.

    2. Re:(no subject) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wait... nevermind.

      I'm not going to call the cops anymore. I'm not entirely sure my livestock porn is legal in this state.

    3. Re:(no subject) by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Interesting

      or "auto-saved" in their web browser.

      Yea, auto-forwarding someone's gmail is easy as pie.
      Gmail should require you to re-enter the account password before allowing an auto-forward address to be saved.

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    4. Re:(no subject) by Dan541 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Don't forget to look under the keyboard.

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  2. Stolen AC's password... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    but it did take me some time so this is not Frist Post.

    1. Re:Stolen AC's password... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Damn it. And I worked so hard building up a solid reputation for honesty and rational thought.

  3. And it works, too by Das+Modell · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm actually the one who posted this story.

    1. Re:And it works, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hahahaha! Disregard that, I suck cocks.
      -Das Modell

      reference in case people think I'm trolling.

  4. That's so true! by wwrmn · · Score: 5, Informative

    wwrmn molests kittens and has been known to punch puppies.

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  5. Sharing passwords by geekgirlandrea · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It just seems bizarre to me how many people think it's normal to give out their password to family/friends/partners/whatever. I've never revealed a password to anyone in my life and never will, and my really important ones get changed regularly. Is that really so terribly unusual?

    1. Re:Sharing passwords by ceoyoyo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As a little kid the first thing I did when I learned to program was write some code to ask for passwords.

      Apparently I've mellowed. I had a girlfriend who used the key I'd given her to invite herself in and look over my e-mail when I wasn't home. She got dumped. But now I'm thinking it's an excellent test. I have a couple of friends who volunteered to send a couple of... interesting messages as plants.

    2. Re:Sharing passwords by geekgirlandrea · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes. Stick to dating people who know how to use a packet sniffer. :)

    3. Re:Sharing passwords by HermDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      It just seems bizarre to me how many people think it's normal to give out their password to family/friends/partners/whatever. I've never revealed a password to anyone in my life and never will, and my really important ones get changed regularly. Is that really so terribly unusual?

      What are you? Some kind of mutant?

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    4. Re:Sharing passwords by gregbot9000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why not? I give out my passwords to crap like e-bay all the time, to friends who want to sell and to other sites that require membership. It's no big deal.

      Honestly, checking someones email is about as morally wrong as reading their diary. Sure it's incredibly rude if you get caught but hardly in the realm of some evil raping of personal space.

    5. Re:Sharing passwords by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah right. Just try finding one of those. Of the correct sex.

    6. Re:Sharing passwords by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, but it leads to insecurity further down the road. For example, you give your girlfriend (yes I know most /.ers probably don't have one) your password to a social networking site either through an auto log-in browser, or by telling her it. Anyways, 3 months down the road you and your girlfriend break up, so, knowing your password she goes onto your social networking site account and vandalizes it with random crap and perhaps changes the password. Your reputation is ruined.

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    7. Re:Sharing passwords by cjb658 · · Score: 2, Funny

      And orientation

    8. Re:Sharing passwords by geekgirlandrea · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, I suppose I shouldn't be assuming which sex is the correct one for you, but from the implication of scarcity I'll go ahead and assume you're a straight male.

      Anyway, we *do* exist. Including myself, I know of at least two women who know how to use a packet sniffer. Now, we're both gay, so that doesn't help you very much, but I'm sure there have to be straight geeky women out there.

    9. Re:Sharing passwords by geekgirlandrea · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You seem to have been interested enough to bother replying.

    10. Re:Sharing passwords by EdIII · · Score: 3, Interesting

      but hardly in the realm of some evil raping of personal space

      According to YOU . I don't give my passwords out to anyone. I catch anyone using one of my accounts I will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.

      You may not value your privacy, but it is a little bit arrogant and presumptive to assign the same value to everyone else's privacy.

    11. Re:Sharing passwords by Dragonslicer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now, we're both gay

      <obligatory>Pics or it didn't happen!</obligatory>

    12. Re:Sharing passwords by ceoyoyo · · Score: 3, Funny

      That part is negotiable. At least partially so.

    13. Re:Sharing passwords by MarcQuadra · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I actually caught a previous girlfriend cheating once by using a packet sniffer!

      I was living with her and things went all wonky (no sex, she started crying all the time, etc.). One day she went to visit her 'friend' who was flying in, he'd only be on a six hour layover and she was going to keep him company. This is no big deal to me, since I would be expected to be able to do the same.

      Long story short, I was learning Wireshark at the time, and was already logging all sorts of traffic from common protocols (DHCP, WINS, AIM, etc.) at the gateway just for fun. A week later when I was going over the logs, now with a bit of curiosity since she was acting very -odd- after her return from the airport, I saw that she started an IM session with her best friend as soon as she got back from her visit. The contents included details on some kissing, and a plan to 'stick with this guy until the other guy is heading out again in six months, then leave with him'.

      That relationship ended that night.

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    14. Re:Sharing passwords by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 2, Funny

      BOSCO

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    15. Re:Sharing passwords by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 5, Funny

      Confucius say "A gay girl with packet sniffer? Hmmm, something fishy here."

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    16. Re:Sharing passwords by geekgirlandrea · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Heh. I've never caught anyone cheating on *me* that way, but I did once use the ULOG target of iptables to help a former roommate catch her boyfriend in adult chatrooms on Yahoo. He was impersonating a black man with an 18-inch penis, and fantasizing about simultaneous penetrating pregnant woman and her unborn fetus, with lethal results for the fetus.

      I needed to wash my brain out with bleach after that one. Amazingly, she stayed with him two more years.

    17. Re:Sharing passwords by unitron · · Score: 5, Funny

      Especially if you're a cunning linguist.

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    18. Re:Sharing passwords by Giometrix · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "That relationship ended that night."

      The look on her face must have been classic. Good for you man!

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    19. Re:Sharing passwords by corbettw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If your reputation is dependent on a social networking site, you have bigger problems than a vengeful ex.

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    20. Re:Sharing passwords by gnick · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't know your dating status and don't care, but those sound like the words of someone who has been and will remain alone. Loss of privacy is at the very core of becoming unsingle. Read his/her emails too.

      I feel sorry for you. I've been married eighteen years as of this month and I've never read my husband's email. I also never read his mail unless he tells me to go ahead and open it over the phone. I expect the same the respect for my privacy from him.

      That's a great policy, but we play it a little differently. If my e-mail's up on screen, I wouldn't at all be bothered if my wife (11 years) read it. If she snooped and logged in, that might be different. One oddity is that we both use my e-mail for our online accounts (I order more). If she orders something that she doesn't want me to know about, she gives me a heads-up. I forward the receipt without ever reading it and delete my copy. Every once in a while, it's a gift for me =). Other times, I never know what it is or how much it cost us.

      No biggie. I love her and I trust her. She trusts me too. She has my passwords and I trust her to use them within the (implied & mutually assumed) limits that we live in. And vice versa.

      It's nice. I can't say I've never been burned, but living with somebody you trust is worth the risk of being burned as long as you make good choices.

      And snooping is almost strictly detrimental. If you feel the need to snoop, you have another concern to address. I tell the truth so that I can trust. I refrain from snooping so that I can trust that others will respect my privacy. I don't steal so that I don't feel the need to protect my property. Sometimes I get burned, but it's definitely worth it.

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    21. Re:Sharing passwords by Eivind · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's also the possibility that you actually trust someone. My wife knows the passwords for some of my stuff, simply out of convenience. It -does- happen that she needs some stuff (say pictures) from my laptop and I'm out. The home-partition is encrypted, she knows the password.

      I don't see the big deal. I didn't encrypt it to protect it from HER. I encrypted it so that stuff on there stays private even if say a burglar steals the laptop.

      Yeah, this means if she likes she can dig around in my firefox-history or whatever. So what ? I trust her. Certainly, it's possible that she'll betray that trust at some point. That's always a risk when trusting people. If that happens though, the privacy of my emails will be the least of my worries.

      "Lost my wife, and my gmail-password" -- somehow I don't think the gmail-password is going to be the biggest deal in that context.

    22. Re:Sharing passwords by blahplusplus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "It just seems bizarre to me how many people think it's normal to give out their password to family/friends/partners/whatever. I've never revealed a password to anyone in my life and never will, and my really important ones get changed regularly. Is that really so terribly unusual?"

      Yes, most people are ignorant and convenience trumps security.

    23. Re:Sharing passwords by shaka · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's disgusting. And I'm not speaking of his very private sexual fantasies, but using packet sniffing intending to "catch" your partner in adult chatrooms. I'm glad that your friend seems more sensible than you.

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    24. Re:Sharing passwords by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's the way. Let her think she can see everything, but hide the real meat somewhere else. First thing they taught me at the Evil Genius Accademy.

    25. Re:Sharing passwords by naich · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "...things went all wonky (no sex, she started crying all the time, etc.)"

      I was sitting here thinking "that's normal, isn't it?" You wait until you have kids.

    26. Re:Sharing passwords by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm pretty sure all packet sniffers are female.

    27. Re:Sharing passwords by Spatial · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Then many people have 'bigger problems'.

      Your reputation is dependent on every medium you communicate through. Lots of people have real-life relationships with friends and family mirrored on social networking sites. If someone gets your password and makes fake posts about you coming out as a paedophile, your reputation will be harmed.

    28. Re:Sharing passwords by 4D6963 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I was living with her and things went all wonky (no sex, she started crying all the time, etc.)

      Regular boyfriend asks her what's wrong and tries to figure out how she's feeling by talking to her.

      Nerdy boyfriend waits till the situation degrades further and sniffs her IM packets to eavesdrop her conversations with her best friend to find out what was going on once it's already too late.

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  6. "Without their knowledge..." by msauve · · Score: 3, Insightful

    is significantly different than "without their permission." One might be given account/password info for good cause, but the account holder may not be aware of every access. That would constitute "without their knowledge," but implies no impropriety.

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    1. Re:"Without their knowledge..." by srjh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It may not even be intentional. If I want to check my account on someone else's computer and get auto-logged in to their account, I'll just log them out first and not bother wasting their time by telling them (after changing their status to something mildly embarrassing, of course).

  7. Insane girlfriends by Butisol · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I knew this chick who got her boyfriend's password by looking over his shoulder. She used it well after their relationship ended, out of some mix of jealousy, spite, and hope that they'd be together again. She would make letters from other girls disappear, know when to make inconvenient calls/appearances, and whatever else it is that a manipulative, batshit insane, ex-girlfriend does. It was pretty funny. Point is, I suspect most breaches of passwords are of this sort of nature rather than really sensitive commercial stuff, so it's all lulz and it's all good.

    1. Re:Insane girlfriends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      'I knew this chick' = I DID THIS!

  8. girlfriends by edalytical · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My ex used to get mad because I absolutely refused to give her any of my passwords besides my WPA password. She didn't understand security at all. Later I found out she had been reading her boss' private email -- I"m glad I don't trust anyone. Always log out of public computers, never allow them to store private information. It's a good idea to clear private data or reset the browser on public computers as well. If you live with other people or have guest over you should password protect your computer.

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    1. Re:girlfriends by geekgirlandrea · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So put /home on an encrypted partition and pay attention to your system logs so you know if the machine got shut down while you were away. I think if you're living with a partner who is willing to physically mess with your machines just to read your e-mail, you have bigger problems than keeping your passwords safe anyway.

    2. Re:girlfriends by mxs · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My ex used to get mad because I absolutely refused to give her any of my passwords besides my WPA password.

      Those people annoy. A lot.

      She didn't understand security at all. Later I found out she had been reading her boss' private email

      That kind of thing lands people in actual jail with actual bars.

      I"m glad I don't trust anyone.

      I have people I'd trust with every bit of credentials I have, yet I don't give it up to them either. There is simply no need. If it arises, I can reconsider -- or SIMPLY give them their own login.

      Always log out of public computers, never allow them to store private information. It's a good idea to clear private data or reset the browser on public computers as well.

      I don't consider public computers safe, at all. You have no idea what their security policies are, you have no idea who has been tampering with it, you have no idea whether there is a physical keylogger attached somewhere, you have no idea whether the box has a rootkit, etc.
      It's fine for browsing, but only if you don't care that anybody finds out what you are browsing for.

      If you live with other people or have guest over you should password protect your computer.

      100% agreed. Especially on occasions like parties. If your computer provides the entertainment (music), make sure you have it in your sight always -- or make a user account specifically for that, with all other access blocked. Yes, your friends will snoop on you, think it's "funny" to read your mail, mail something from your mail, put something on your website, chat on IRC under your name, snoop around in your cache, look for porn on your computer, etc. I don't know why that is, but even friends I'd call upstanding, usually responsible people can sometimes give in to this.

      The flipside is that I know user credentials for, probably, dozens of people -- or knew them at some point. People do give up their login info, their "standard" password, etc. easily if you help them fix their computer, fix their problem, or show them stuff. I make a point of forgetting them (and never using them outside that incident), but in some cases that's just not possible (you probably know "that guy" who uses a simple password for everything from his user account password to his homebanking PIN ...). I suspect many people in support positions are in the same position. That's a lot of trust and responsibility which is easily (and often untracably) abused.

      Then think of system administrators -- do you know who has root on all the mailservers your mail may be passing through ? System- and Network-administrators can untracably read pretty much everything that is going on on their network. Often, people do not even realize that this is the case. I suspec this is why end-to-end cryptography is just not a hot topic with many, many people -- they simply do not realize who all has access to their (private) stuff. And if they do, they might still use the same password for their GPG passphrase as their POP3 account as their various forum passwords. Whoops.

    3. Re:girlfriends by houghi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      OTOH if you live with a partner and you do not trust them in so far as that you have to do all those steps, you also have bigger problems.

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  9. Complete nonsense by e2d2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm calling bullshit on this one. 42%? yeah right. Maybe parents checking up on their kid's habits but even then I can't see almost _half_ of the world's internet users using another person's account.

    But that's the thing, the poll doesn't infer that it's all web users, just people that visit that website. The write up is incorrect.

    This is so lame I'm having a hard time not laughing. Is this the best we can get? How does this tripe pass the test to be posted on slashdot, and not in the idle section?

    1. Re:Complete nonsense by boarder8925 · · Score: 2, Funny

      How does this tripe pass the test to be posted on slashdot, and not in the idle section?

      But, but, but, Slashdot is one big idle section! People have been wasting their time here for ten years!

    2. Re:Complete nonsense by unitron · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe he are British.

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  10. Good payback by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Had a girlfriend who turned out to be promiscuous. She used the same password for everything, or a very small variation. (1-2 characters)
    I helped her out with her bills from time to time, and upon returning to Afghanistan (after a horrible R&R due to her promiscuity) I mass-messaged everyone on her Yahoo Messenger with a message that accurately portrayed her character resulting in some fun phone calls for her.
    I believe that this was very ethical and appropriate for the relationship. The other option of over-drafting her checking account by paying her credit card would have been extreme.

  11. Bugmenot by gringer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    does bugmenot count?

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  12. What were the survey questions? by Dan+B. · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Like all surveys that want to portray a 'shocking' result, it all comes down to the wording of the questions. It is very easy to get a respondent to tick yes on a question that asks "do you log in to other people's accounts" by first baiting them with a whole bunch of rubbish like "do you help others with their IT issues" and so on.

    Without the actual survey, the results are, in my opinion, just as good as made up.

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  13. Re:Statistically speaking... by snl2587 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, they also say that 75% of all statistics are made up...

    Joking aside, there's something to be said for ethics. Sure, I know tons of passwords. But I would never use them without permission or for a reason other than what they were given to me for.

  14. Re:Only 42%? by RuBLed · · Score: 4, Funny

    I see, so the true Ultimate Question is "What is the % of web users who sneak onto other online accounts?"

    Ha! take that Vogons..

  15. Did it to nuke a MySpace account by AaronW · · Score: 5, Funny

    I once had to do this. Some idiot on MySpace set their account to use one of my email addresses. Repeated requests to Myspace went unanswered, so I just used the password recovery tool to change it and promptly deleted his account. Problem solved.

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    1. Re:Did it to nuke a MySpace account by thermian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A student I failed on a course did that to me once, using my email address to set up a sale on ebay that they then screwed buyers over with, to try and cause me trouble.

      I didn't think to use password recovery, but I did send ebay an email detailing the account, and the fraud.

      No idea what happened after that, but the emails from 'customers' stopped.

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  16. Ok, fess up. by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

    Which one of you got hold of CmdrTaco's password and posted all these lame stories?

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  17. AC by Samah · · Score: 3, Funny

    I wish people would stop using Anonymous Coward's account. He doesn't even have a password!

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  18. Re:I don't even know my own passwords by urcreepyneighbor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Backup your database. Often.

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  19. I cry "BS!" by Simonetta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can't believe this. They say that 42% of the people that they asked had used another person's password or account. And the people asked are all internet users.

        It is a logical fault to assume from these two statements that 42% of all internet users have used another person's password or account for unethical purposes.

        What was the sample audience? Were they all students simply using each other's common passwords to peek into each other's love notes? The article gives that impression and then posts a headline that implies that 42% of ALL INTERNET USERS are dangerous highly-advanced techno-crackers who can and would empty your bank account at any time that they would choose.

        Another example of deliberate media exaggeration and fear-mongering over an activity that, when examined, turns out to be a whole lot of nothing. Is Fox News behind this? Or just some schmuck desperate for a story to file?

        Crying wolf destroys the perception of journalistic integrity for everyone.

  20. Makes sense to me... by Perf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Since 42 is the answer to life, the universe and everything, wouldn't it also follow that 42% is the universal statistic?

  21. I have a question then by rpillala · · Score: 2, Interesting

    At my job, we have a secure database where each person has their own credentials to get in. As a troubleshooter for my work site, I have an administrative set of credentials that allows me to access everyone's records in case they run into problems that they want me to fix. The system logs changes to the records, so if they change something it tracks to them, and if I change something in their records it tracks to me.

    My administrative credentials are not under my control, i.e. I can't set my own password. The people at the next level up can do this, but I cannot.

    This seems wrong to me, but when I try and explain this to people they don't see the same issue that I do. Namely, a password is pointless if someone else knows it. Whatever my superiors can do with my login, they can just as well do with theirs. I've known them for a while and have no reason to suspect any malfeasance, but that's not how you design security.

    My sister is in a similar situation at her work where the IT department determines everyone's passwords. I was trying to convince her that this was less than ideal, and she just boggled at me. She works in politics and there's a lot of potential for spying from a rival party. If IT sets and can retrieve anyone's password (which they can in this instance), they could easily frame someone else for this kind of espionage by impersonating them. That's not to mention that if passwords are stored someplace on the system in an easily readable format, that's certainly a flaw in the security design.

    Maybe I'm alarmed over nothing, but I don't think so.

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  22. Re:Only 42%? by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's not really 42% -- 50% of the ones who answered the survey was actually the same person logging into 21% of the accounts.

  23. relationship issues? by sckeener · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think those numbers are high, but I can understand it if they aren't. They mirror the divorce rate numbers.

    Here's my tale of woe:

    I feel horrible. I broke my own morals during my divorce. My ex threatened to have a PI follow me and just having that possibility hanging over my head ate away at me. I can justify it, but it still wasn't right...I gained access to her emails just to see if she was spying on me...it sucked.

    All it did for me was make me feel worse about myself.

    To anyone thinking about doing the same, I strongly recommend not doing it. Even if it wasn't against the law, nothing good is going to come from it. It won't make breaking up easier.

    Over the years I've had many people come up to me and ask me how to do such things, I've always told them not to try....for one thing it isn't admissible in court and another it won't make you feel any better.

    I know...I've been there and done it...I regret it and wish I could undo it. Now I'll have to live with it for the rest of my life. A divorce is a major life event and emotions run high.

    My one advice for anyone going through a divorce is to not do anything that you will feel bad about years later and by that I mean don't break any moral codes that you would have had during the good years.

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