People On No-Fly List Can Sue In District Court

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "According to a new ruling, those put on the No-Fly List can challenge their inclusion in federal court. Previously, they had to go directly to an appellate court, which would deprive them of any chance to subpoena documents or witnesses and make gathering evidence difficult or impossible. Knowing the government, they will get around this by creating a 'No-Sue' list and making it even harder to change your name."

Comments

Re:A Big Problem

[Ihlosi]

What next, national gun ownership registration lists?

No, no, people are brainwashed enough to think that if they can still have their gun, they're not living in a totalitarian state.

You don't need to take people's guns away if you've already poisoned their minds with your crap.

Totally Pointless

[jmpeax]

Wow, and to think that the whole thing is totally pointless with regard to its supposed necessity for anti-terrorism purposes because it's actually trivial to get around:

Denise Robinson says she tells the skycaps her son is on the list, tips heavily and is given boarding passes. And booking her son as "J. Pierce Robinson" also has let the family bypass the watch list hassle.

Capt. James Robinson said he has learned that "Jim Robinson" and "J.K. Robinson" are not on the list.

Terrorist's wouldn't even need to use fake names! They'd just need to abbreviate their real ones.

What a sad state of affairs.

It's Downhill from Here

[Vengance Daemon]

Our enemy has become, not the Muslim fundamentalists, but the federal government of the United States. We are spending a lot of time and bandwidth talking about and complaining about their actions. There is kind of a resigned tone to many of the comments that I hear and read. The US government has become sort of not "of the people, by the people, and for the people," but more "against the people." The corruption in congress and the White House is not helping at all.

Re:CNN link to someone doing it.

[rtb61]

I don't think you understand the whole principle of slipping peoples names on the list and not bothering to differentiate between different people having the same name. Don't show the proper respect, fail to agree with the weasel in chief, join the wrong political party, write comments on forums that challenge the government approved view and you will just have to expect limitations being placed upon you, 'er', not you, your name, 'er', not your name, some bad person who has the same name but that they won't identify for security reasons.

The crazy principle is, by their logic you are not proving who you are, you are proving who you aren't. Now if that other person is such a threat that under no circumstance should they be allowed to board a plane etc. then why aren't they keeping track of their location sufficiently well to know that they are not at your current location attempting to board a plane.