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Ray Bradbury Turns 88
Lawrence Person writes "Legendary science fiction writer Ray Bradbury turned 88 years old on August 22. Happy Birthday Ray! 'The Illustrated Man' was one of the first science fiction books I ever read, and I've been hooked ever since. I'm sure that's true of a lot of science fiction writers and readers, be it that, or 'The Martian Chronicles,' or 'Fahrenheit 451.' There are also several videos of Ray on that page, including one where he doesn't endorse Sunsweet Prunes." I remember when another student on the bus loaned me "Fahrenheit 451," and my middle-school English teacher Mrs. Young was smart enough to include "All Summer in a Day" in her curriculum.
Yeah, it should, considering he is one of the most influential SF writers to date. Slashdot loves scifi, so, we love to hear about this stuff.
There's a reason why Foundation and Dune come up a lot.
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When the writer is Ray Bradbury, yes, it should.
And isn't 88 a special age for hobbits, or something?
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I liked the short-story The Pedestrian. From what I hear, it was the basis for Fahrenheit 451, however, I think that one can get some different meanings out of each.
What's interesting about Fahrenheit 451 are some of the parallels that could be drawn to today's society. Guy Montag's wife has a seashell like device that she puts in her ears so she can listen to the radio, much like today we have iPods, where people can seem to be in their own little worlds.
The fascination she has too with the telescreens, and wanting to be involved in one of the, for lack of a better word, "soaps," could tell of our society's own inordinate fascination with the personal lives of the "rich and famous."
Finally, that overwhelming desire for more, another telescreen, even though the last one was put in within a year prior, could speak to our society's want for material goods.
Whether or not Mr. Bradbury believes our society could degenerate to a point where we burn books, I would argue that our society already contains elements of his fictional society.
The Pedestrian is similar in that the everyday man is fascinated with what takes place on his television screen, and cannot be bothered to calmly walk down the street and think.
One connection I believe can be found between the short story and the novel is that in The Pedestrian, the main character is arrested for walking down the street (as nobody does that anymore, he must be suspicious), and in Fahrenheit 451 the girl who talks to Guy Montag mentions that her uncle got arrested once for walking down the street.
Still alive, yet he still has a tombstone in a cemetery in L.A. The same cemetery were Marilyn Monroe and Dean Martin are buried. Strange, but true.
No, it's the age at which science fiction authors start to travel backwards in time.
If you can find me one geek who doesn't list an SF writer as a major influence in their interest in technology, then I'll agree with you.
I have my doubts that you would succeed though. For me it was Douglas Adams.
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I have to agree with the grandparent post. Sure, Ray Bradbury is important in the sci-fi world. But is he anymore important than say Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison? We don't mention their birthdays here. Other people of importance for whom birthdays we don't mention on Slashdot either: Stephen Hawking, Kip Thorne, William Gibson, and the all important etc. So, yes, it is a slow news day.
Well i think it's news worthy in that it wasn't an obituary. How many of the great Sci-fi authors are left?
Ray Bradbury was a good friend of senator Packwood, and when the senator's political career began to unravel amidst allegations of sexual abuse and harassment from his female staffers, Bradbury tried to defend him on an episode of politically incorrect. Among other things, he said something to the effect of "who hasn't slapped a girl on the butt?" and "I sexually harassed my wife until she married me."
A class act, that guy is.
Actually, some of the geeks that are of the latest generation may lean more towards movies and games than the printed word. So I'd bet that not listing a SF author would be entirely possible.
*shrug* I found it ok. I got around to reading it after watching/reading a bunch of other similarly themed works. Like Equilibrium. So really, I got spoiled into thinking there would be some sort of badass action scene.
/.'s 'Joe Sixpack'.
Really, the fact that no part really stands out for me probably says something about the book. Reading it was kind of jarring, but I put it off at the 'disturbingness' of the plot/theme/idea. The only thing I remember is how close his wife behaved to stereotyped dumb blonds, NASCAR fans, and
By some chance both All Summer in a Day and Sound of Thunder were in my 7th grade lit book, better than the crap my kids are assigned to read.
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Your Heinlein paperbacks are sticky, aren't they?
H. G. Wells? Who's stories could be boiled down to thinly veiled allegory for england at the time: a superior power invading what was though the premier power with nightmarish force saying 'Mars, bitches!', and a man venturing to different lands where there happens to be a society that resembles what his is like at the extremes in 'teh future!'. Very few sci-fi writers actually write fiction based on science. More tend to be allegory's of the modern society set against different backdrops. You may not like Bradbury's stories but attacking them on their merit as qualifying as "sci-fi" is probably the worst place for you to pick your battle
It seems Bradbury and Bukowski were in the same graduating class. According to their respective Wikipedia entries, both were born in 1920, and both graduated from Los Angeles High School.
Interesting bit of trivia if true...
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I contend that Bradbury is the single greatest science fiction writer of our age. Period. What he did - his vision - and when he did it was truly remarkable.
I still remember reading the Martian Chronicles and the Illustrated Man. For a kid that didn't like to read for fun it says a lot about books that kept me up 3 nights straight to find out how things ended.
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"Your Heinlein paperbacks are sticky, aren't they?"
While Heinlein does tend to be "Ayn Rand in Spaaaaaace!" at least it actually feels like space! Stranger in a Strange Land had flying cars and bounce tubes and stuff. The Martian Chronicles took place on Mars for no other reason than because the author says so.
Jules Verne figured out that Floridian latitudes were convenient, and yet "Rocket Summer" took place in Ohio? And for how many centuries did we know that the surface of Earth was mostly water, and yet he consistently describes Earth as a green dot in the Martian sky? These are things that anybody living after 1750 or so with a globe on their desk could deduce (and they often did), but Bradbury couldn't be bothered to exercise his supposedly vast imagination even that much? Even if it helped immerse the reader just a little bit? No, such things would get in the way of The Point. Instead of creating an imaginative world that was "the same, but different" where he could explore ideas, he created a world that was "the same, only they say they're on Mars."
Agree or disagree with Heinlein, the man could write a good story. Agree or disagree with Ellison, the man could write a good story. Ray Bradbury cannot write.
I should think not.
Bradbury was one of the first science fiction authors to have a wider cultural impact outside of sci-fi fandom, and is still one of the most important.
Of course, there's no way to precisely rank the importance of writers in a genre; perhaps there were more influential writers within the genre, but clearly he is a writer of the first rank. Within his historical cohort, many have passed away: Poul Anderson, Isaac Asimov, James Blish, Robert Bloch, Arthur Clarke, Philip K. Dick, Gordy Dickson, Frank Herbert, Damon Knight, Stanislaw Lem, Kurt Vonnegut ... all were his contemporaries, all gone. Even Gene Roddenberry and Rod Serling if you choose to include them.
Bradbury belongs to a seminal generation of science fiction writers. If you go back a decade earlier by birth date, you get a few names who are recognizably and undeniably part of the genre: H. Beam Piper, Robert Heinlein, Clifford D. Simak. Bradbury himself was a later bloomer, beginning his most important work in the 1950s, while his near exact contemporary Isaac Asimov was publishing a decade earlier, and who perhaps is a link to an earlier, pulpier age. If you go back even further, you get figures like Doc Smith (who was very advanced for his era) who were writing in a very different kind of genre.
The distinctive accomplishment of this generation of writers is that they raised the science fiction bar from thrilling adventure (although not stinting in that department) with serious literary craft, social critique, and scientific speculation, a fact that escaped the notice of wider audiences for years. Bradbury was one of the first to get noticed outside the club. And he did it without having to cross over into social satire, with sci-fi served up neat.
It's remarkable and happy news that Bradbury is still with us. There aren't many of that generation who are. Brian Aldiss, Anne McCaffrey, and Ursula LeGuin among the top tier writers. John Christopher, and Kate Wilhelm certainly.
So, yes, it's newsworthy that he's still with us.
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I liked Bradbury a lot. And Heinlein. And E.E. Smith.
A few years later, Farmer and Stapledon.
At the age of 25, I discovered two very witty and humourous authors, namely Robert Sheckley
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Sheckley
and R.A. Lafferty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._A._Lafferty
Not to forget Philip K. Dick, Stanislaw Lem, the Strugatskijs.
And of course, the British Authors: Douglas Adams, and Clarke, Moorcock, Brunner, Ballard, Aldiss,...
Among them, the great but not well-known David I. Masson ("The Caltraps of Time")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_I._Masson
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Thanks.
... but "Something Wicked This Way Comes" is one of my favorite, most enjoyed influences in terms of writing style and pure entertainment. I've read many of his other stories (and I agree with some that "Fahrenheit 451" isn't one of his better works, though it's undeniably important), and enjoyed them all.
However---and perhaps it's the time in my life that I read it---for pure *joy* at the written word and how he wields them, "SWTWC" is probably in the top five works which has most affected me (and this post is no, nor is it meant to be, reflection of Ray's abilities).
Those are not geeks.
Because they don't read sci-fi? I never did as a child, yet consider myself a geek. I've always read a lot, but never found any sci-fi books that really dragged me in.
What got me into tech were the movies depicting tech. Star Wars (IV), Tron, Wargames and Back to the Future (I). Playing with Lego and Mechano while watching them blew me away.
All the while I read a huge amount. Mostly fantasy, crime and horror. When I wasn't reading, I was probably either watching sci-fi movies, or playing games or creating text adventures on my Speccy.
As anyone who reads this is probably aware, shit changes - espically in the world of tech. Where we once read, we now may watch or listen instead. In another time slashdot may have been a newspaper with comments fueled by readers snail-mail. But it ain't.
If you don't think viewing sci-fi in other media makes you geeky enough, then start telegramming in your punch-card comments.
What makes these guys cool is that they could have probably just gotten away with writing crap, like so many authors do today, or they could have tried to prove they were smarter than everyone else by writing 'literature'. But they didn't. They wrote stuff that socially relevant and accessible to the people. As a result we have a good history or the social views of technology and cultural issues of the time. As they die we are losing first hand history from people who made living by objectively observing it and then writing it down in entertaining form.
So all these kids that think this is not relevant, well that because we know watch tv instead of read. No one becomes a scientist because of pulp fiction. Now everyone watches TV. Which is no so good because the bandwidth of TV is nowhere near as wide as the bandwidth of pulp fiction, so the vision and opinions tend to be limited and sanitized to what will attract sufficient viewers to pay the 200K it would take to develop a script, instead of the 20K it would take to buy a story. Of course, everyone now wants to be a millionaire overnight, so likely would think it was too much to develop a story and only get 20K.
The legacy of books that these guys left us is awesome. It is techy writing, unabashedly, unapologetically, and willingly. I will take this time to thank bradbury for the writing, be it science fiction, fantasy, or just fiction.
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Your Heinlein paperbacks are sticky, aren't they?
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No, there's somehting special about books. There's just very little actual content in movies and games. A movie has what, a 100 page script? And less than that for games.
In the room with me as I type this are about 40,000 pages of imaginative fiction, and that's the fraction of what I've read that I liked enough to keep through many moves. If your only exposure to other worlds is a few dozen skiffy movies, you've hardly left your head! Heck, you probably think skiffy is SF.
And I don't even consider myself a hardcore fan - I've never gotten drunk with Niven, or punched in the face by Ellison, or watched Asimov put his moves on a young female fan, I just read a bit in my spare time, just a book or two a week.
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No SF author has ever creeped me out as much as Bradbury can. He can describe a happy summer day with just a note of ... something ... that makes you think you're in a horror story despite every description being pleasant. "There will come soft rains" from The Martian Chronicles still sticks with me 20 years after reading it for the first time, long after we stopped fearing the bomb. Truely a genius at his craft.
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Modern SF Writers all stand on his shoulders when they write.
I couldn't find out when Ray Bradbury got married, but I would guess it was 40+ years ago. Believe or not there was a time where most did not even know the term sexual harrasment.
"a superior power invading what was though the premier power with nightmarish force saying 'Mars, bitches!', and a man venturing to different lands where there happens to be a society that resembles what his is like at the extremes in 'teh future!'."
But the key here is that Wells actually worked on the metaphor. Good science fiction tends to be stories of "Let's take contemporary society (or some other meme), but dial up Aspect X a few orders of magnitude and explore what happens." Most of Bradbury's work starts with "Let's take contemporary society," and that's as far as he ever gets.
One of the more damning criticisms of science fiction as a genre, all the more damning because it's often true, is that many science fiction authors write science fiction because the standards are so much lower than for other forms of fiction or literature. For every genuinely good book in the genre, there are fifty that wouldn't even get shelf space in the trashy romance section.
Other than the very end, where Earth is destroyed in a fashion that more resembles Alderaan than Hiroshima, Martian Chronicles could just as easily have been written about a previously undiscovered island in the South Pacific somewhere, followed by its subsequent colonization and subjugation of its peoples (you know, what Bradbury was trying so God damned hard to write about). But "Polynesian Chronicles," named and written as such, sitting in some other part of the bookstore, wouldn't have sold enough to merit a second printing. Put "Mars" on the cover, and there's a chance that preteen boys of the day will buy your (supposedly) Mars-themed book rather than a Mars-themed trading cards, Mars-themed comic book, or Mars-themed horror movie ticket that week.
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Strange you do not associate scifi writers with the films that you enjoy. Do you realise there are many films where the book came first? Ray Bradbury in particular has been the source of many stories that have been adapted for the screen.
cutting for film loses depth and plot and takes away your part in a story, yes your imagination has an important part to play when reading a book.
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And isn't 88 a special age for hobbits, or something?
You are thinking of "eleventy-one."
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Fahrenheit 451 itself was censored in exactly the method we wrote about for years, and he didn't know it. When he later discovered it, he wrote this new piece to go in the end of the book. Everyone should read it.
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I don't think anyone questions his credentials, but I think it does make for a slow news day to point out his 88th birthday. Is this an annual announcement that is made here? Were there front page stories for his 73rd, 68th, or what about 86th?
For what it is worth, it also was the 91st birthday of John Lee Hooker, the 69th birthday of Carl Yastrzemski, and the 146th birthday of Claude Debussy. If you want to argue that these people don't fit in with the slashdot crowd (and before you do, don't forget that baseball nerds and geeks by far predate computer geeks), shouldn't we have mentioned that the 11th was Steve Wozniak's 58th birthday, the 7th was James Randi's 80th birthday (good lord, I didn't know he was that old, but at least that is one of those decadal numbers people get all worked up about), the 5th was Neil Armstrong's 78th, and the 19th would have been Gene Roddenberry's 87th birthday.
Unless there is some significance to this particular birthday, I would have to agree with the GP that it must be a slow news day for this to make the front page.
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I fondly recall that Fahrenheit 451 (along with Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm) was one of the first really serious "adult" (in the non-porno sense) books I read, when I was all of maybe 11? 12? The visions and dark allegories of all three books, combined with the events of the late 60's (and Watergate, soon to follow), which made me realize that the Real World (TM) was not at all like what my History and Civics textbooks portrayed, helped to turn that impressionable, too-smart-for-his-own-good adolescent into the bitter, paranoid, mistrusting, cynical middle-aged grunt I have become. For all the ulcers, the insomnia, the times I beat my head against the wall in frustration at the direction of government and society, and the accumulated hair I tore out of my head along the way.....I thank you.
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Oh yeah, and he says that Fahrenheit 451 isn't really about censorship or oppressive governments:
http://www.laweekly.com/2007-05-31/news/ray-bradbury-fahrenheit-451-misinterpreted/2
Ray Bradbury was married in 1947. 60+ years! I had a chance to talk with his daughter about 5 yrs ago and she told me how old fashioned her parents were. They had been living in the same house for 40+ years and neither of them had ever learned to drive!
I have to agree with the grandparent post. Sure, Ray Bradbury is important in the sci-fi world. But is he anymore important than say Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison?
Yes.
The people who shape others thoughts by means of art, culture, analogy and metaphor are and always will be revered. The people who contribute to the economy today are merely remembered, not revered. There is a very good reason for this.
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If you're going to make an exhaustive list of the origins of SF you should include HG Wells and Jules Verne.
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I think we should celebrate his turning 541...
Is that the temprature at which accuracy burns?