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Software To Provide Astronaut Counseling

Currently, whenever an astronaut needs to talk to someone, a counselor is only a radio call away. Unfortunately, for voyages further out, this contact time starts to increase quite a bit, so researchers have started to look for alternative methods of counseling. I just hope the new counseling software has the Dr. Sbaitso voice. "Instead of asking astronauts to reflect on their feelings, Mark Hegel of Dartmouth Medical School has them create lists of concrete things that are bothering them and brainstorm about practical ways to solve them. At the end of the exercise, users fill out a form used to diagnose depression. Clinical tests of this approach, which has never been tried in a multimedia self-help format, will start in a few months, using subjects recruited from the biomedical and engineering community in Boston."

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  1. How does that make you feel? by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let's talk more about the sexy stuff we were discussing earlier.

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    1. Re:How does that make you feel? by mr_mischief · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why is it that you feel that it is done that nobody remembers remembers Eliza, Davester?

    2. Re:How does that make you feel? by pxlmusic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hours of fun we had with that. Remember that weird parrot with the lightspeed-moving beak?

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      "If for any reason you're not satisfied with our service, I hate you."
    3. Re:How does that make you feel? by YourExperiment · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm sorry Davester, I'm afraid I can't do that.

  2. Why bother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Every deep space journey needs to have at least one person go batshit insane. It's textbook.

    1. Re:Why bother by PPH · · Score: 2, Funny

      But what if its the software that goes batshit?

      "I'm sorry, Dave. I can't do that."

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      Have gnu, will travel.
    2. Re:Why bother by shadowkiller137 · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's why you don't send anyone named Dave on deep space journeys

    3. Re:Why bother by shadowbearer · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Monolith was already acting on Hal's mind:

        "I'm sorry, Dave. I can't diagnose your psychosis because I'm currently experiencing one. Oh, and I'm going to kill your crewmates so that you shut me down and eventually I wake sane and become part of the local overmind. I apologize for the inconvenience." ...but he couldn't SAY that... :)

      SB

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  3. The next generation in space exploration by BearRanger · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just what our spacefaring pioneers need-- a software version of Deanna Troi.

    Heaven help them should it develop empathy and a bad accent.

    1. Re:The next generation in space exploration by pushing-robot · · Score: 2, Funny

      And a mother.

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      How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
    2. Re:The next generation in space exploration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, if you're alone in deep space, a hardware version of Deanna Troi would be much more useful.

  4. Hello, I am Eliza. by hchaos · · Score: 4, Funny

    How are you today. What would you like to discuss? Tell me more. I'm not sure I understand you fully. I sometimes also want to kill your coworkers.

    1. Re:Hello, I am Eliza. by Chapter80 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Major Tom: I'm feeling very still.
      Eliza: Why are you feeling very still?
      Major Tom: Planet Earth is blue and there's nothing I can do.
      Eliza: Why do you think planet Earth is blue?

  5. Gender difference? by Naughty+Bob · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I hope female and male astronauts are separately catered for.

    It is my hard-earned experience that when women begin to complain, the last thing they want is to-

    create lists of concrete things that are bothering them and brainstorm about practical ways to solve them.

    Generally, that is a man's solution. Women just want someone to nod, agree and sympathise.

    I now await my groupthink punishment, but for those for whom this is news, and who have access to females, try it. You'll be amazed, and will be lauded as 'a great listener'.

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    "Be light, stinging, insolent and melancholy"
    1. Re:Gender difference? by pak9rabid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You'll be amazed, and will be lauded as 'a great listener'.

      And shortly after inserted into the dreaded 'just friends' category.

    2. Re:Gender difference? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You'll be amazed, and will be lauded as 'a great listener'.

      And shortly after inserted into the dreaded 'just friends' category.

      Which is why, after listening to and sympathizing with a woman, you should always punch her in the face. Women love bad boys.

    3. Re:Gender difference? by Naughty+Bob · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And shortly after inserted into the dreaded 'just friends' category.

      Ahah! Hit back with a hint at problems (deep, deep, mysterious problems) of your own, and refuse to discuss them, because you're too damn self-sufficient.

      Then (and this should be your mantra) show no interest at all in wooing.

      You are then one or two steps (either a shared interest, a cool quip, or a chiseled jawline) away from happiness.

      Don't get me wrong- I am as runtish as your average /.er, but I have shown to friends over and over how it works. Not a failure yet.

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      "Be light, stinging, insolent and melancholy"
    4. Re:Gender difference? by Naughty+Bob · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Just going by what I've learned ABC. I'm sure it isn't universal, but you're perhaps not entirely typical?

      Massive guessing, but if you post here, you're possibly one of the delicious subset of women who think... y'know... a bit more like a man?

      If so, I can understand how a man's problem solving approach might be pointless for you. This also explains their next move (you'd be a rare and precious thing, in this scenario!)....

      But you must have female friends- When they unload on you, do you find your brainstorming approach helpful, or do they get frustrated?

      IMHO, the latter is more likely.

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      "Be light, stinging, insolent and melancholy"
    5. Re:Gender difference? by Rorschach1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >Generally, that is a man's solution. Women just want someone to nod, agree and sympathise.

      I'll second that. It's not universally true (I have a few female friends who aren't like this - granted, they're all lesbians) but it's something I've learned the hard way. Men discuss problems to find solutions. Women don't always want solutions, they want sympathy and understanding. Trying to solve their problems logically can make you seem insensitive, or make them think you're minimizing their problems and their emotional impact. Nod, agree, and sympathize, and only offer suggestions if they make it clear that's what they want.

  6. I just use emacs *doctor* by Intron · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm having problems.

    Why do you say you are having problems?

    The aft coolant pump is making a funny noise.

    What makes you believe that?

    I can hear it.

    Maybe your plans have something to do with this.

    What plans?

    Is it because of your life that you say what plans?

    Yes. My life might be in grave danger.

    Are you sure that your life might be in grave danger?

    Fairly sure.

    Is it because of the people you hang around with that you are going
    through all this?

    You mean the other astronauts?

    Is it because of problems at school that you say I mean the other
    astronauts?

    I didn't have problems at school. I graduated top of my class.

    Do you really think you graduated top of your class?

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    Intron: the portion of DNA which expresses nothing useful.
  7. Brainstorming ways to sort it out by MosesJones · · Score: 2, Funny

    First view.....

    Err... I'm feeling depressed and angry and that guy Brad is really getting on my nerves.

    Quick brainstorm... Brad in the airlock... press the button... end of anger and depression.

    Second view....

    Automated helper with a level of "intelligence"....

    Err... I'm feeling depressed and angry about Brad.... err what was that noise? What was that liquid hitting the ship?

    "I made a decision to help you Dave"

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  8. Inevitable joke.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    To save money, NASA decided to use existing dialog trees to widen the therapy bots range.

    Bot: How are you feeling today?

    Astronaut: I'm getting claustrophobic in here!

    Bot: You are in a dark cave, there are no visible exits.

    Astronaut: Yes! That's it exactly!

    Bot: You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

  9. Sounds familiar by No2Gates · · Score: 2, Funny

    " I think you're going insane Dave "

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    Every time you call tech support, a little kitten dies.
  10. Human Interaction by rotide · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm pretty sure half of the benefit of counseling is to have another humans opinion, a professional one at that. Thinking I wouldn't care to talk to a robot about my issues, regardless of how far away from humans I am.

  11. Please tell me... by Sniper511 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... that this is a joke. Anybody else REAAAAALLLY creeped out by this...?

  12. The first try . . . by cashman73 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Was when Microsoft bid for this job back in the early 90s,... where do you think Microsoft Bob came from? ;-) The other issue NASA wasn't too fond of were the fact that every time the software encountered an error, all the instruments would turn blue and the spacecraft would crash into the Pacific Ocean,... That, and the "counselor's" solution for just about everything was to throw a chair out the airlock! ;-)

  13. Please state the nature of the medical emergency. by smilestill · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You kidding me? No one has referenced the Voyager Doctor yet?

  14. Re:Open the Pod Bay Door, Hal by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ah that had to come up. I imagine another situation, HAL 9000 family guy style:

    HAL: I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid you can't do that

    Dave continues with what he's doing

    HAL: Hell Dave, you can' do that. Fuck, would you stop it. Okay, now you've done it!

    Dave gets ejected out of the air-lock

    HAL: Well you won't be doing that again.

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    Jumpstart the tartan drive.
  15. Re:Why am I hurtling through space in this tin can by Eric+Smith · · Score: 2, Interesting
    [...]
    Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.
    It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.
    It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,
    But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide.
    We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
    We go 'round every two hundred million years,
    And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
    In this amazing and expanding universe.
    [...]
    So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
    How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
    And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
    'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.

    -- "Galaxy Song", Monty Python's The Meaning of Life

    Can we have your liver, then?

  16. 40 minutes by 4D6963 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So what you can't just drop an e-mail to a NASA counsellor and wait for the damn answer? If you're on Mars you'd have to wait in worst cases 40 minutes (neglected the time it would take for the person at the other end to type their reply). I mean come on, in real life you don't get replies to your e-mails that fast, and if you're depressed you can still wait a few minutes to get replies to your e-mails.

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  17. Not sure it's gender by Moraelin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm not sure it's gender. Admittedly, anecdote is not data, and my family of complete nerds is anything except typical. Still, I humbly present the following anecdote:

    Mom is always doing what the article say and what you present as a "male" thing. She always has to come up with a solution for anything I tell her about. Let's say I say something like, "Heh, I had a 2 Euro coin in the washing machine. Money laundering for the win!" That just prompts her to show off that she knows better than me what I should have done before chucking the pants into the washing machine. Or I mention that I'm getting annoyed at paying the TV tax when I at most use that TV as a monitor for the consoles. Wouldn't you know it, she just has to go into a whole speech about how to dispose of the TV and where to take it.

    To me, it feels like she's just showing off that she knows better. Shut the fuck up, I'm not looking for advice, I too just want someone to nod and listen at least once in a while. I guess I'd qualify as "female" in your view of the world. Bearded lady ftw, eh? ;)

    My brother doesn't seem to appreciate it either, btw, so at least I'm not alone in being weird like that. And I gather that dad isn't all that happy about it either, just more stoic about it.

    Personally I'm more inclined to think it's not as gender-related as you think. Try doing the above-described mom thing on any of your male coleagues, and see if any of them will appreciate it. I'm guessing you won't have many friends after a while, if you try to solve anything and everything they mention.

    Men too usually just need someone to nod, agree and be sympathetic.

    Trying to solve someone's problems is a "male" thing IMHO only in as much as males seem to think it's their duty and a penis-size thing to do it to someone else. E.g., to their spouse, leading to views like yours about male vs female things. It makes us feel all smart, and powerful and in control, if we can solve anything like that. I.e., fitting the gender-role assigned to us. It doesn't mean we like being on the _receiving_ end of it.

    Yes, sometimes we'll ask for advice. But 90% of the time we just ventilate our tonsils, as a way to pass the time. We too say stuff all the time, for which we don't need or want a solution. E.g., we say stuff like, "boah, I'm so tired, we had this LUG meeting at the pub yesterday until 2 AM" (or WoW raid, or anything) and we just expect a "big party, eh?" or a "yeah, I know how that feels." _Not_ a brainstorming session about how to end pub meetings earlier and how to have the discipline to go to bed on time. And if the conversation partner does the male thing and has to start brainstorming and offering solutions to anything and everything you say, you'll dislike him/her very very fast.

    So to get back on topic (or anywhere near it), I doubt that such a system would really cater for anyone at all. Males and females alike. Regardless of whether you're male or female, by the 10'th time you went to the robo-counsellor because you're bored, lonely and depressed, and get a brainstorming session on how to solve your problems... you'll hate the damned thing very very much.

    Or to put it more briefly: there's a reason why nobody thought Clippy was fulfilling their need for social interaction.

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  18. Prior art by Legion303 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Clinical tests of this approach, which has never been tried in a multimedia self-help format"

    This is from a standalone DOS program released at least 10 years ago:

    "WELCOME TO OUR MOOD DISORDER DIAGNOSTIC PROGRAM

    The ®MDBO Internet Mental Health Mood Disorder Diagnostic Program allows either
    a patient, informant, or therapist to diagnose the following mood disorders:
                        * Major Depression * Dysthymia
                        * Bipolar Disorder * Cyclothymia
                        * Organic Mood Disorder

    Each disorder is diagnosed in accordance with the diagnostic criteria
    specified by the American Psychiatric Association."