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Linux Not Supported For Democratic Convention Video

bucketoftruth writes "If you browse to the Democratic Convention website and attempt to check out any of their upcoming streams, you bump into the following limitation: 'We're sorry, but the Democratic Convention video web site isn't compatible with your operating system and/or browser. Please try again on a computer with the following Compatible operating systems: Windows XP SP2, Windows Vista, or a Mac with Tiger (OS 10.4) or Leopard (OS 10.5). Compatible browsers: Internet Explorer (version 6 or later), Firefox (version 2), or, if you are on a Mac, Safari (version 3.1) also works.'"

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  1. Re:Doesn't matter to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Quite possible, and the McCain camp is still trying to figure out what Linux is, and if it is a threat to national security.

  2. Furthermore by eclectro · · Score: 5, Informative

    Biden his VP choice is against net neutrality

    I think Obama has lost his mojo.

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    1. Re:Furthermore by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Obama lost his mojo two months ago.

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  3. Re:OS Related? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since invention of flash video we are free from unnecessary plugins and related burden.

    Right, because Flash is free software, so it works with every current OS and browser.

  4. Re:User agent by KingArthur10 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It requires Silverlight. If you spoof the agent string, it asks you to install both Silverlight and Move Network's media player plug-in.

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  5. Re:So what? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 5, Informative

    It says you have to install Silverlight to see it.

    I hate to say it, but Flash has existed, and been a viable option, for long before Silverlight, and it's got a far greater install base. Why'd they choose Silverlight over Flash?

    I'm sure there are valid reasons, I'd just like to hear them.

    Does silverlight for linux exist?

    Short answer: Yes.

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  6. Tech Savvy Convention by n3xg3n · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This Page claims:

    Building on a commitment to bring more people into the Convention experience than ever before, the Democratic National Convention Committee has taken a comprehensive approach to ensure the 2008 Democratic National Convention will be the most technologically-savvy event of its kind.

    Really? If it were the "most technologically-savvy event" wouldn't it at least make an effort to support ALL operating systems, especially the one used mostly by the "technologically-savvy" people. It isn't a difficult feat to use technology which is supported by the three major OSes on the market. This isn't acceptable in this day and age. =/

  7. Re:OS Related? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since invention of flash video we are free from unnecessary plugins

    Plugins like, oh, I don't know, maybe, FLASH?!

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  8. I'm watching it on xine right now by gambolt · · Score: 5, Informative
  9. Hah! by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 5, Funny

    We're sorry, but the Democratic Convention video web site isn't compatible with your operating system and/or browser.

    Phew. That's a relief.

  10. Re:What's a better option? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's Flash, Silverlight, QuickTime, RealPlayer, and Windows Media Player to choose from.

    I'd suggest h.264 in an mp4 container. Quicktime will play it, Media Player should play it, and Linux (totem/kaffeine/xine/etc) will play it.

    Flash is the known quantity -- it works on Linux, just not very well.

    But I think pretty much all of the ones you suggested are a better choice than Silverlight, in its current state.

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  11. Re:Priorities by electroniceric · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's be serious here - nobody's spending money to block anything. The DNC didn't build anything themselves, nor should they - they're a political party, not a software shop. They chose a vendor to build out and operate a video infrastructure for the convention, and that vendor happens to have built on Silverlight (that's where incentives and support from MS likely came in, not directly to the DNC). Why the vendor did that, I have no idea.

    I'm a pretty big believer that these things should be built on open technologies, not the least of the reasons being that it's GOOD for political parties to have their content built upon and reused (that's much of what fuels political blogs). As such I'm a little miffed that they chose a vendor that didn't support open technologies, but my guess is that someone's list of questions didn't extend past "can you run it on a Mac" (thereby showing that they're not part of the old Windows-only generation, they're part of the new Mac generation). Given the size of the Linux market, I think the use of content question is much bigger than the runs-on-a-particular-OS question.

  12. Flamebait? It's true! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sheesh, we even had a story about McCain's tech platform (once he finally formulated one).

    It specifically says that he believes in protecting children from porn and the RIAA's War on Sharing, but NOT 'prescriptive' legislation like Net Neutrality.

  13. Re:Doesn't matter to me by lorenlal · · Score: 5, Funny

    They should get a hold of Ted Stevens. He knows alot about computers and networking stuff.

  14. Those elitist snobs! by olddoc · · Score: 5, Funny

    They want me to pay for my operating system??

    Oh well, I think I have windows installed in a PC in one of my seven houses....

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  15. Re:use this with VLC by AM088 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Except it's the no-sound version. With a little guesswork, I was able to figure out the right one:

    http://cnn-cnnlive-2-primary.wm.llnwd.net/cnn_cnnlive_1_primary?MSWMExt=.asf

  16. Re:So what? by WatFiv · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why'd they choose Silverlight over Flash?

    For *live* streaming, I suspect that it's far cheaper to set up a bunch of Windows Media servers than it is to set up a bunch of Flash servers.

    Flash Streaming Server licenses are *extremely* expensive. There are open-source alternatives, but so far as I know none of them are very good at handling thousands (or tens of thousands) of simultaneous connections.

    Windows Media servers, however, are just regular ol' Windows servers -- couple hundred dollars per box with no user limits, and they do quite well with heavy loads.

    Unless Adobe manages to compete better on pricing, or unless some of the open-source alternatives get better at scaling to thousands of users, then I bet we'll see more and more developers pushing Silverlight without Microsoft having to pay them to do anything.

    And note that I'm talking about *live* streaming, not streaming prerecorded stuff like YouTube.

  17. Re:use this with VLC by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 5, Funny

    Except it's the no-sound version.

    You say that like it's a bad thing...

  18. Re:Obama hates linux! by The+Grim+Reefer2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, he is the bigger evil. The bigger and the better evil(I mean, he could be the devil's great-great-grandfather).

    That's why he gets my vote. Because Obama is a lesser evil and I don't like to vote for lesser.

    If you take that thought to it's conclusion, I believe you'll find a preferable candidate here: http://www.cthulhu.org/

  19. Re:Doesn't matter to me by findingmaemo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hate to let this go any further, but the bronze age didn't have digital computers. I think they used bronze punch cards. Gee I can't wait for the youth of tomorrow to cannibalize us all. At least they'll know how many houses they have. They can keep track using emacs or vi.

  20. Re:No, Security Related by multisync · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The need for political parties to protect their content from hackers has been discussed on /. before

    Funny, I thought it was the hackers who needed to be protected from the political parties.

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  21. Re:Obama hates linux! by Alsee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Vote McCain/Whoever 2008

    Finally! A VP candidate with no bad positions on any of the issues!

    Well hell, we should just skip waiting for McCain to drop dead of old age for the VP to move up to president. Whoever is the better half of that ticket! I say we just elect Whoever as President in the first place!

    Who's with me? WHOEVER FOR PRESIDENT! Hell yeah!

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  22. Re:Doesn't matter to me by dougisfunny · · Score: 5, Informative

    If I recall correctly, he was the head of the commerce committee that was in charge of the network neutrality bill being pushed through a couple years back.

    The guy was in charge of regulating the internet. And called the internet a series of tubes.

    I don't even know what analogy to come up with in comparison. Car analogies are welcome ;)

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  23. Re:Doesn't matter to me by penix1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe you should read this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_of_tubes

    I really don't think that was the bad part of his speech. The bad part was:

    "an Internet was sent by my staff"

    This from the guy who is supposed to be overseeing the ISPs.

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