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Software Quality In a Non-Software Company?

Nicros writes "I work for a publicly traded biotech company that happens to write software that is, in fact, kind of critical for the business — without it no data would ever be read from our instruments, and no analyses would be performed on that data. The problem is that as a 'biotech' company, we are not taking software quality seriously. We have no senior management with any history of commercial software development — our C level has really no clue whatsoever what software really is, much less what is going on in software development. All of our quality processes are related to manufacturing our system (not software), so we are constantly forced into ad-hoc development since there is no real process for our development. Repeated requests to hire someone with some real commercial software development experience have gone unanswered. I have been to the CEO directly one-on-one and although he agreed this was an issue, thanked me, and said he would look into it, that was the end of it. He has bigger things to worry about. So the question: Is this just a fact of life and I need to deal the best I can? What else can I do to get some attention on software quality in the company?"

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  1. Practice What You Preach by ilovegeorgebush · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're obviously fighting an up-hill struggle. Going straight to the CEO is both a good and bad idea - if it works you'll get immediate affect, but it's likely to be ignored.

    You need to argue this case as much as possible. If you're the developer, or in charge of development, enforce decent developmental practices and ensure your estimates include them. Err on the side of caution. Take an estimate and double it. Managers talk money, not standards, so you'll have to hit them where it hurts.

    Otherwise, is there anything off-the-shelf that could alleviate some development?

    1. Re:Practice What You Preach by b4upoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Between being right and being popular with bosses being popular wins out every time. Pestering them about better ways to do things is not a great idea. Play golf with them and never mention a darned thing relating to work and if something does crop up then make them think it was all their idea all along. Money shall flow to you as well as job stability. Make sense and be logical and you might as well start a job search.
                Thia may not apply in other nations but in America it works every time.

    2. Re:Practice What You Preach by Hotawa+Hawk-eye · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Your statement "We have a problem, this is how other people solve it, and this is what I will need to solve it. Give me the budget and I'll solve the problem." is close to complete, but you're missing one piece.

      "We have a problem, this is how other people solve it, and this is what I will need to solve it. This is what it costs us _not_ to solve it. Give me the budget and I'll solve the problem."

      If you can show that the software development 'process' currently in place is costing the company $N a month and you will need to spend $X to improve the process, if you're going to be developing software for more than (X/N) months, it'll be more cost-effective to fix the process.

    3. Re:Practice What You Preach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Regulatory compliance (your customers might need it, enven if you're not required to comply), customer integration, competetive comparisons, segmentability, reuse, costs of a labour intensive process, inrceasing portion of software in any software intensive system, flexible product development (simulation, test, physical component replacement). Perhaps somebody wanted to extend the list?

    4. Re:Practice What You Preach by Jonboy+X · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you can show that the software development 'process' currently in place is costing the company $N a month and you will need to spend $X to improve the process, if you're going to be developing software for more than (X/N) months, it'll be more cost-effective to fix the process.

      Right. The best way to deal with a CEO is to make up numbers, so he can feel like his job is "quantitative".

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    5. Re:Practice What You Preach by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd not adopt CVS these days, or SVN.

      I'd advocate Bazaar

      First of all: I agree with you. I use Bazaar for my own personal projects.

      But I think it's important to remember that any version control is better than none. Here's what I'd suggest as an order of importance:

      Get onto version control, if you're not. If the VCS you choose sucks, you can change later, but anything's better than simple shared network storage -- or worse, emailing files (or patches) back and forth.

      Next, make sure it's open source, if you can. Your source code and version history are probably your most important assets, as a developer -- the last thing you need is to lock them up in some proprietary format. It's probably easier to migrate from SVN to Git than from Visual SourceSafe to SVN.

      Next, make sure it's distributed. At the very least, the distributed nature of Git, Bazaar, Mercurial, etc, all mean they've at least been forced to implement good merging. (SVN 1.5 merging is better than 1.4, but let's be honest -- it's still a joke.)

      If you can go all the way to Git in one step, great. But those are the steps I'd suggest. And if you're going to go with a gigantic, monolithic open source repository, SVN is an order of magnitude better than CVS, yet behaves mostly the same.

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    6. Re:Practice What You Preach by electroniceric · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I also work for a biotech (... this my other brother Darrell), and we're facing the prospect of FDA regulation as a device. So we're presently working our way through ramping up a formal (21CFR820) Quality System now. My boss happens to have been through this before and to be a pretty effective evangelist for the FDA's Quality System methodology, which is required for all medical devices and drugs. As he says, a Quality System is just putting to paper all the things you should be doing anyway. So one place you may want to start is by discussing the utility of complying with FDA regs with regard to software.

      My boss also notes (on any occasion where there's an opening) that when the FDA introduced design controls, most companies complained they were going bankrupt (as companies are wont to do when regulation, merited or unmerited, is proposed). But when the FDA went around doing their roadshow to show that they weren't just making rules without listening to industry, people from the device companies gradually started to get up and explain how using a Quality System actually lowered their costs and decreased their time to market for revisions and product upgrades.

      So as an evangelization tactic I'd look on the FDA's site for guidances relating to the introduction of the Quality System Regulation. For example, this guidance on general principles of software validation is pretty good. If you mentally translate into software industry language you can really see that they're trying to get you to do better engineering by thinking and documenting early, really getting straight what the software is trying to do, and being structured about showing that it does what it needs to do. The truth is that despite the startup effort of introducing documentation and procedures, controlled engineering methodologies work way better - they reduce requirements failure, increase code quality (and more importantly, design quality), and - though developers start out hating paperwork - even make the developers happier because more code works and sees real use. If the company plans to be in the software business for the foreseeable future, it's almost certain that the effort invested in good software practices will pay huge dividends down the road. The key is point out that quality is not an esoteric consideration, it's a driving cost and business risk consideration. Sooner or later the cost of low quality software shows itself.

      One thing I will note is that the QSR is pretty waterfall oriented, both because it predates the formalization of iterative/agile methodologies, and because it's written for engineering of physical boxes that have to be released to manufacturing (which implies a fair bit of waterfallism). Part of our effort is to practice iterative development methodology while documenting to the FDA's standards.

      Anyway, take a look at all that.

    7. Re:Practice What You Preach by kndyer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I once worked at a device company that was in a similar position. When the business changed direction and we determined that we needed regulatory approval, it took us two years of paper pushing to get ourselves prepared.

      Doing it right the first time can be the difference between being the first and the third into a market.

    8. Re:Practice What You Preach by aralin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Chances are he only thought he warned the boss, while he was just talking, the boss listened, didn't understand a word he said, out of politeness made a response and then forgot the entire incident.His lips were moving, words came out, they held no meaning for the CEO.

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  2. Anarchy is an opportunity by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It sounds like in your company there is no one doing this job. You've talked to the CEO. Get him to make you VP of software and tell him you'll solve the problem if he gives you responsibility.

    Anarchy is an opportunity for the ambitious and unprincipled. Take it and make yourself software Czar.

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    1. Re:Anarchy is an opportunity by pieterh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Agreed. Don't raise issues for other people to solve, you are just labeling yourself a trouble maker. Raise issues, attach costs to them, and then present yourself as the person with solutions, and ask for budget to solve them. Make a proposal with figures, planning, clear savings, and get approval. Then hire and build a competent team and/or find a good subcontractor. Use open source where possible to save costs. Report your progress and ensure you get budget every year.

      Think of ways to turn a profit from the software. Maybe it can be licensed to other firms? If you can earn revenue you will suddenly become much more valuable.

      Problem is: you will stop coding and become a manager. But if you do a good job, you can get power in the firm.

      If you present a good plan that will solve real problems for the company, and you are not given the green light, then look for another job. If/when things go bad, they won't thank you for it.

    2. Re:Anarchy is an opportunity by southpolesammy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Careful what you wish for though....

      The flip side of becoming a point of authority in an environment as this is that if/when code defects bubble to the surface on your watch that result in a major hit to the company's bottom line, you may need to have a thick layer of asbestos underwear on in order to prevent the blame game from claiming you as a victim.

      Right now, you've identified the problem for your mgmt and have suggested solutions, but you're not yet responsible for the implementation of those solutions. Becoming the VP of such an org not only makes you responsible for the fixes, but also directly accountable, possibly including from a legal standpoint. In other words, you'd better hope that the bugs in your software don't have the potential to cause medical or financial harm to your customers.

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    3. Re:Anarchy is an opportunity by houghi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Also do not forget to get some customer input. It will be extremely hard to change anything if your customers are perfectly happy with what you have. For you it might be bad, but perhaps for the customer it is 'good enough'.

      Doing the manager thing and figuring out the numbers might even lead you to the fact that changing things would cost more, while not gaining extra income or saving anything.

      So it could be that it is just a 'nice to have' and not a 'need'. You will need to prove it makes money, otherwise they will not do it.

      'Making money' can also mean that your customers will be happier, or they will call you less, saving money, because you can do other things. It can also happier customers, which might be important if you measure customer satisfaction.

      Basically you need to sell the idea and the company needs to buy the idea. If you can agree on a price where both parties gain in the deal, then it is good. If one of the parties does not gain anything, then it is a no-go.

      This is true for every change in whatever it is you want to change. From the color of the toilet paper to the closing of a factory.

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    4. Re:Anarchy is an opportunity by kitgerrits · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you want to keep yourself safe, document and report all 'blind spots' in your method.
      Make sure you present an overview of what you can control and what you cannot control.

      If management does not agree with a certain blind spot, show them the resources required to cover that blind spot.

      You cannot have bug-free code without strict rules and a literally astronomical budget. (and even NASA has had a few bugs)
      What you can do is prevent embarassing/dangerous bug from making it into 'production software'.

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    5. Re:Anarchy is an opportunity by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Careful what you wish for though....

      The flip side of becoming a point of authority in an environment as this is that if/when code defects bubble to the surface on your watch that result in a major hit to the company's bottom line, you may need to have a thick layer of asbestos underwear on in order to prevent the blame game from claiming you as a victim.

      I am not familiar with your capitalist system.

      I was thinking of Stalin, a great Russian leader. Stalin saw several problems in Russia and approached Lenin (like a CEO). Stalin amassed political power while Lenin was alive and then replaced him once he died.

      If people start to blame you, I would recommend (based on Stalin's methods) that you conduct a witch hunt for saboteurs and spies. Also make sure everyone is too busy imposing the new working methods to stir up much trouble.

      Additionally make sure the CEO gives you control of building security and announce a period of special measures. During this rather than a disciplinary process followed by dismissal, enemies of the new working methods will be summarily shot by security and buried outside under the flowerbeds.

      I would recommend ordering building security to uncover several plots against CEO and then put them down brutally as an excuse for Special Measures to be announced.

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    6. Re:Anarchy is an opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I work for a hospital, and I think that the customers already know it's crap. At least, we end users of healthcare products already know that all healthcare-specific software is crap. Just a couple weeks ago we had a vendor (oncology treatment planning) give us a great shiny new upgrade to their product. But it didn't work with a critical MS .NET security patch that was released over a year ago. So our options were to uninstall the patch or forego the upgrade. In other words, this vendor doesn't do development on a fully patched OS, or even one with 14 month-old patches. We have *brand new* equipment that is run by a Windows NT PC. Yes I said Windows NT. They don't support any other options.

      But one thing we've learned in coping with this problem: your customers are the ONLY ones who are going to have any effect on your CEO. Why should he care if the software is crap? What is the economic impact of that? He isn't going to care if it's an aesthetic or internal problem, and why should he? In business terms, the product will be only as good as it has to be. Only if the customers push back is he going to do anything.

      From the OPs description, I don't hear anything about impact on customers. It sounds like the CEO sees this as a problem with no economic impact, i.e. no problem at all.

  3. learn to let go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This is a common theme from many companies, especially the one I'm with right now. Companies just don't get it sometimes and they let things slip by them. The biggest issue is, should you care more about it then the Management above you? Should you burn yourself out? Let them worry about the botttom line, u should do whats best for yourself. And above all else, don't stress yourself out over it. Once you've learned to let go, you'll realize how many other things are more important in your life. Plus you can always switch jobs so no biggie!

  4. Opinion from the outside? by DerCed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Could you propose to hire a software test consultant for a day or two and let him point out serious quality issues (data integrity, security, correctness..)?
    A serious, alarming report by an external software test professional could help reinforcing your requests?

  5. I have the same problem by _Shad0w_ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have the same problem where I work, the problem is I am the dev with real commercial experience; I just can't convince them that we need to do things in a manner that I would consider correct - it's all ad-hoc development and it's all driving me nuts.

    The problem is, if our software doesn't work correctly, then the data we collect and process using it becomes screwed up, which is a major issue for the core business - data is our crown jewels.

    My current solution to the problem is looking for a new job in a company that actually takes software development seriously. I just can't see any way of getting things here working the way I want. There wasn't even any revision control in place on the source code when I started.

    The problem I'm finding is that the lack of structured development and design here is actually beginning to hurt me professionally: prospective employers, who have software development as a core aspect of their business, actually ask about this kind of thing. If you're looking to hire someone who takes their profession serious, for god's sake make sure they're actually going to be able to do their job - otherwise your company is just going to turn in to a blot on their CV.

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  6. Mixing of two mindsets by slipnfall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hi OP,

    I'm a developer/Engineer for two biotech companies: one a small startup, with me being the only part-time employee. The other is a large DOD-backed institution. I can tell you that in the short time that I've been there, it has been a frustrating uphill battle to instill an Engineering/Developer mindset. While I firmly believe Scientists and Engineers seems to have a similar approach to work, it's interesting to see how passive the science-minded folks are towards hardware/software advancements. They are only concerned about how many protein cells it can accurately count, or whatever. There is no interest in what goes on 'behind the scenes', and consequently, what goes on to get there.

    There are absolutely no Engineering controls in place at either Employer, and software development is as you said: made for the moment. Personally since I am the one-and-only, I find that I just have to do the best with what I have. I comment and doccument well, keep a code revision repository, and do my best(within reason) to make sure someone else can pick up where I left off.

    It won't be my problem if/when the day comes I leave, but at least I'll be able to sleep at night.

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  7. Some hints for your situation by Apogee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm in a quite similar situtation, and perhaps I can provide a few hints from what we're currently doing.

    I'm working for a relatively well-known institute in academia (biotech field), with a group that among other research projects, also provides web-based services to the research community. Funding is partially tied to the operation of the services, so there is actually enough pressure to make sure that they work and work correctly at all times.

    Still, until about a year ago, development was very ad-hoc, in a mix of languages, and with many "islands of knowledge", where some parts of the system were only known to one post-doc, and other parts could only be fixed by the group head (who, as they are, was usually busy with many other things...). After some hard times and near-misses, we started looking around for ways to improve our development.

    I was quite attracted by the ideas of Agile, and I believe that they're a good fit to the kind of processes you find in science, as well as in software engineering. We initially had a professional Scrum coach come in and talk with us about software development practices, and then decided to apply Scrum to our processes.

    It's now a bit more than 1 year since then, we're still using Scrum with a few adaptations to fit the academic environment (we're also using Scrum for projects that are really science and research, not software development). In a recent secret poll among the team, Scrum got high marks for making the team more productive, and for creating an environment where code and knowledge is shared. People are happy with the structure that Scrum provides, and we always know where the project stands. Incidentally, we also write better software faster.

    But we're still improving the way we work. The transition is slow and painful, and we're only slowly adopting things such as test-driven development, automated builds and pair programming. In my experience, there's a lot of resistance against these "newfangled" methods in the academic culture, especially that of people who weren't trained as software engineers, but rather as physicists, chemists, biologists, but now find themselves producing software.

    Some hints on what I've found useful in re-shaping our work environment:

    - You can't change the whole structure in one day. Get permission to run a small, isolated project in "the new way", and use this to demonstrate the advantages. Remember, there are many metrics for success: Code quality, timely delivery, not having single points (persons) of failure, as well as team velocity and personal satisfaction. Try to make a case from this small project (and gain experience while doing so), and then grow it out slowly.

    - I would not advise to do some clever "breaking the build, and thus showing everybody how fragile the system is" exercise. This may not be seen as constructive.

    - Instead, provide convincing evidence by example that your way is more productive and more certain. Bugs that are fixed stay fixed, and don't creep in later again. Timelines are better kept. That sort of thing...

    - If you can get someone in to talk about the current best thinking in software development, do so (someone else mentioned this already). It's good to hear an outside opinion, and to understand that these practices are not theoretical but used by large companies world-wide.

    - I found Joel Spolsky's 12-point assessment very useful to find out where your organization stands: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000043.html ... These are also good points to whisper into management's ears.

  8. What exactly means "Non-Software Company"? by Tanuki64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have worked in enough software companies to know that they are not necessarily better.

  9. Open source by Confused · · Score: 3, Insightful
    • Your software doesn't make money for the company, it's just producing costs.
    • Your customer need the software to use your stuff.
    • From your description, your customers might include quite a few very clever ones that constantly try to push the limit of your systems and thus damning your software to eternal hell for its shortcomings.
    • Any help you can get to develop it would be welcome, although don't expect your development costs to go down.

    This sounds like the perfect scenario for open sourcing your software with you as the main developers maintaining it.

    For the regular users, nothing much will change.

    For the power users, those most likely to complain, this will be a tremendous benefit. If they don't like it, they have the possibility to improve it. This often reduce the number of problem reports and increase the good problem reports from your knowledgeable customers. Sometime you might even get useful patches, that save you some work. If you're really lucky, you might get a few users who start to code enhancements.

    It also might generate some good-will towards your company and ease the integration of your bricks with other solutions.

    What has this all to do with software quality? With your software out in the open, quality problems tend to be treated more like bugs that will be fixed as fast as necessary and possible and you get a better feedback where work is important. Making the software and drivers open source won't save your company any money, it won't cost more either, but it will improve what you get for your effort.

  10. Contract IT Consultant(s). by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No they are not as evil as the Democrats says. Most of them want to do a good job so you will call them back in the future.
    Why contract except for hire.
    1. They can be paid for out of your department budget not the general budget. So it requires less steps up to get approval.
    2. They work outside of HR. So you can hire them and fire them if you feel they are not doing the job correctly
    3. Use a Multi-level support system. Get some Jr. Consultants to do the grudge work for cheap for 3 days on 2 days with a Sr. Consultant to insure the Jr.s are on track and solve larger issues deal with your department give any bad news and estimates etc...
    4. More experience for less years. Especially if you get a good mix. You can get a specialist in X and Y and Z because you can use a consultat for their strong points.
    5. If you give them motivation that there may be more work down the line they will focus on getting the project done. Yes they want to stay there but if there is a chance of a new project further down the chances of them milking you is a lot less.

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  11. Missed the obvious solution by johannesg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Make it fail. Make it fail spectacularly, to the tune of millions of dollars. That will certainly get the CEO's attention, and he will be sure to take measures that will stop such failure in the future. Of course, I can pretty much guarantee that you will not like his solution, but software development will be much more professional afterward.

    If this is not what you want, ask yourself what you actually want to change. You do know what you want to change, right? Discuss those things with colleagues and managers, then formally propose doing them.

    I'm guessing you probably want a more structured development process, with better-organized change requests, and at least some semblance of formal testing. That is very, very hard to set up, because it also requires the help of your users, and they don't care about software, they just want to have their problem solved. If this is the case, always remember that you are there to solve their problems, but they are not there to solve your problems. In other words, don't force them into a process they don't like. You might do better if you can show an advantage other than "it makes my life a little easier".

    If all you want is a bugtracker and a version control tool, just request a budget of about $2000, then buy a Dell PC with Linux and install Bugzilla and SVN on it. That will set you back $400 or so, the rest of the $2000 is to show that you are a business thinker and did not forget to include installation time ;-)

    If you want to institute Methodologies (like extreme programming or similar), good luck with that. It will probably end in your colleagues defenestrating you...

  12. Re:What the Hell are you talking about? by SpinyNorman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Go read up on the Capability Maturity Model (CMM) or ISO 9000 and come back when you have a clue.

    You don't even need to formalize the process to that extent to make leaps and bound improvements on the hack-it-together and test it approach you are suggesting... At a minimal a decent software development process should have:

    Requirements specifications & reviews
    Design specifications & reviews
    Test specificiations & reviews
    Codng standards
    Code reviews
    Source control
    Regression tests
    Functional tests
    Load tests

  13. Re:Here's a revolutionary idea by indifferent+children · · Score: 4, Insightful
    How much combined experience does the management team and board of this company have?

    This argument is also known as "The Enron Gambit": those wildly successful guys who are raking it in hand-over-fist must know better than those of us who think that their business model makes no sense. They sure showed us.

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  14. About Open Sourcing by kitgerrits · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm a big fan of open source.
    Most of the hardware at home has had its OS/firmware replaced with open-source variants.
    BUT
    Keep in mind that the software in certain types of devices is part of the 'competitive advantage' over other suppliers.
    If you open-source the firmware/software of your instrumentation, a competitor can very easily build a similar device cheaper (because you already did most of the development).

    I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, but you should show management that you are not 'giving away the keys'.
    Show them you can provide a better quality of software to clients than competitors.
    New features will make it into your software first, then the competitor will still have to factor it into their code.

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  15. Use the right language by ebbe11 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...and that language is money.

    Find out how much it will cost the business if the software stops working. Estimate the risk (number between 0 an 1) of this happening. Multiply these two numbers. The result in dollars is the amount of money your company will lose with certainty. Not maybe, with certainty.

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    My opinion? See above.
  16. Switch jobs by forgoil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Either start working for a company that do care about software quality, or start your own. I know it is a pretty drastic thing to say, and one I haven't (yet) followed myself, but I do believe that it is the only way.

    My hopes would be that the more good engineers that start software companies that care about how things are done (and thus the end result) the less new companies needs to be started because the old ones suck. There are reasons why one sticks around a crappy company that treats you badly in one way or another (which I think is the case in this case), and the best hope for the people who can't leave that easily to form their own company is others doing so and they following when things have stabilized.

    Keep in good contact with each and every good engineer you get to know :)

  17. What, exactly, are you? by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Are you a programmer? A SysAdmin? PS? QA?
    Are you a worker, a lead, a manger, a PHB?

    Each of these generates a different answer.

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  18. Garbage in, Gospel Out? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unfortunately, software quality isn't even on most companies' radar. Until it exposes them to major losses like a balsa-wood skyscraper built next to the airport on the shores of the Petrol Sea.

    Software has the disadvantage of being intangible and we all know that "Any kid can write software".

    Any kid can bandage a cut, but that doesn't mean you want that kid doing a colonoscopy on you.

    At some point the software industry is going to need to establish itself as a rigorous practice with rigorous standards. Not some silly cert that says you know Language-of-the-Week, but something along the lines of GAAP for accountants. I'm not holding my breath, though.

    IF you happen to have - or be able to cultivate - the right social skills, take an active role. However, despite what the "don't like it, get-entreprenurial" crowd asserts, there are those of us who'll never be able to tolerate forcing their introverted personalities to assume an extroverted task on a long-term basis even with the best of counseling, self-help and medications. It can be wearying and it steals time energy from what we can do that the extroverts can't.

    So if you aren't socially adept and don't see yourself swimming through office politics like Nemo, the best advice I can give is keep your resume up to date and network to whatever degree your social skills allow so you can bail before the tower collapses.

    Then again, you can be Monty Hall and still come out of the losing side in the office, so keep the resume up to date anyway.

  19. Re:As a C-Level for a Software company by roman_mir · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do not bring up agile in this situation. You want to push them into a paradigm that is structured towards responsibility, not something that allows development to wash their hands from anything and just blame business. In the situation described in this story the best way to go is by setting up a structure that forces a couple of things: documentation of requirements up front, system and design specs, phased iterative development, unit testing of course, QA department, responsible management. I know it sounds difficult, but you have to work towards it, nothing is easy.

  20. Get a test audit by ArtistFrmrlyKnwnAsAC · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I write software for clinical researchers. From the summary description, sounds like the company has software that is part of their clinical quality system which is not being tested/validated. If the description is correct and the software is actually part of the clinical therapy they're selling, they should have an external auditing agency take a look at it before the FDA does.

    The first time one of their products is audited by the FDA, the warning letter they receive will communicate to management exactly what is lacking in their compliance with FDA cGMP. Unfortunately, everyone from regulatory compliance down to the lowliest coder who had something to do with the products in question will share in the group spanking (been there).

    I'd be shocked if they didn't already have a relationship with an auditing company--unless they're the tiniest of startups. If they do, the submitter should look through their last audit summary and see if anything has gone unaddressed, and if the scope of the audit matches the submitter's idea of the actual quality system for the product(s) in question.

  21. Try this.... by EvilIntelligence · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Here's a possible solution, but you may not like it, because it will involve quite a bit of work for you. Whether or not you do this will depend on how much you really care, and whether or not you view this as an opportunity to make an impact (which it is). I would write a point paper that discusses a comparison of doing nothing vs doing it the "right" way. Make sure you include information about best practices, increased efficiency, improved productivity, and most importantly, how it will save money. Executives really only think about one thing: money. You start throwing dollar signs around and people will pay attention. Show them how much money (real money, based on the company's actual revenue and operating costs) is spent on backtracing due to bad software development management. Then show them how much they need to invest to do it "right", along with how much more money they can save, etc, etc. Remember, everything becomes a "cost", whether its time spent by employees redoing work, faulty products returned due to bad software, along with lost opportunities because the software isn't good enough for your products to enter new markets. It's a lot of work, but armed with carefully crafted and accurate information, with a sharp recommendation, could get you noticed, might actually get the company to make the change, and you could end up a hero. If they refuse to listen, you have at least learned a ton in the process, and you have something tangible you can show to a new prospective employer about much you care about making a contribution.

  22. Re:Plant a bug by ilovegeorgebush · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's hardly going to bring down the company (unless the company was in such dire straits that anything small could bring it down, in which case it's about time to leave), and may bring to the attention of the upper mucks of an important issue.

    There are better ways of doing that, such as persevering, practicing what you preach (good development standards and approach), being firm with management about the issue.

  23. Learn to speak their language by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Put together a business case showing how much money is spent on issues relating to software quality, and how much capital investment (e.g. new software and equipment) and operational expense (e.g. new staff) would be required to solve the problems. Calculate the cost savings over time, and show a positive 3-year NPV.

    You might not be able to get the C-level execs to speak your language, but you can learn to speak theirs.

  24. Fuck 'em by NicknamesAreStupid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is a ton of advice here, and almost all of it is good. But it all comes down to two realities -- (1) the company feels like it does not have a problem and (2) you do. So fuck 'em. If you are right, you are working on the Titanic, and they will tie you to the bow as they approach the iceberg. If you are wrong, then they will eventually fire you for it.

    You may like the people and the work environment, but if either of the two points above are true, then that will change. So, use your initiative to go work for a competitor and show them how to exploit weaknesses like those at your current job. Believe me, your current employer has absolutely NO loyalty to you. They deserve no more from you. It is easier to find a job when you have a job.

  25. VCS + TDD + CI = Profit by anomalous+cohort · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Good advice. Mod parent up. From a technology perspective, a Version Control System, Test Driven Development, and Continuous Integration can go a long way towards improving quality. If the OP is in a MSFT shop, then you are most probably stuck with VSS or TFS. VSS is file based so it is not very good for distributed development. You will need to enhance VSS with SoS if you have remote developers. TFS doesn't have that problem and also has support for TDD's unit testing. If the OP is willing to use OSS, then there are plenty of good options available. There is plenty of good advice here as to OSS VCS. There are various unit testing frameworks for Java, .NET, Ruby, PHP, C++, you name it. Also, check out Cruise Control for Continuous Integration.

    Technology alone cannot solve quality issues, however. Changes in methodology, process, and even corporate culture may also be needed. Take a look at my site for more advice on that.

  26. several options 4 u by goodminton · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I agree with the previous commenters that it's important to have a solution or plan before raising the alarm. Having said that, once you raise the alarm and you're not being heard to your satisfication, there are several options available: * First, clear your mind of what you think you know about software development and what SHOULD be and try to see the situation from an open-minded perspective. Are the issues you're seeing really an indicator of poor quality or are they an indicator of a system that's different from what you know/like? As a quality/regulatory person myself, I've seen many unnecessary projects and alarm bells simply because of a lack of understanding/perspective on a given topic. I'm not saying that's the case with you, just that this is the kind of issue that's good to be absolutely clear with yourself about. * Once you're clear that there is in fact an issue, go to QA and request an internal audit on your software development/quality systems. If your QA team doesn't have a procedure by which you can request an audit, then you should find a QA partner who can work with you on this. It's good to have a QA partner anyway so building the bridge on this project won't be a waste of time regardless of the outcome. * If auditing isn't an option, or if you need ammo to sell the audit idea, another approach is to analyze deviation and/or CAPA trends on your software development process, as well as your validation process. For example, try to find out how many validation deviations are being generated when new/updated software is released from your development team. Working with QA, you could develop an estimated cost-per-deviation, which would be a huge pile of ammo for your management presentation. Also, pretty charts and graphs will help too. * Find other tangible evidence of the issue. Without specific examples it will be difficult to be clear about the problem and/or the solution(s). * If you find evidence and QA and/or management still won't listen, it's time to consider your options. You can either stay, knowing that a ticking time-bomb exists, or you should carefully plan and execute your exit from the company. My litmus test for working at a company is to regularly ask myself whether I'd give my company's medicine to a family-member [a family member I love :P ]. If the answer is no, I don't stick around. So far, I've only had to do that once in 10 years and it was absolutely the right choice. Good luck!