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McCain Picks Gov. Palin As Running Mate

Many readers have written to tell us about McCain's choice of Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin as his VP choice. "Palin, 44, a self-described 'hockey mom,' is a conservative first-term governor of Alaska with strong anti-abortion views, a record of reform and fiscal conservatism and an outsider's perspective on Washington. [...] If elected, Palin would be the first woman US vice president, adding another historic element to a presidential race that has been filled with firsts. Obama, 47, is the first black nominee of a major US political party. The choice of a vice president rarely has a major impact on the presidential race. Palin will meet Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, in a debate in October."

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  1. finally by u4ya · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    now Americans can decide which team of puppets to elect in their sham of a political system they call democracy. Seriously... the 2-party US political system is a joke. If they think that this is democracy, then its no small wonder how they think they can spread democracy via a gun barrel.

    The elections are a charade. Elections and politicians are in place in order to give Americans the illusion that they have freedom of choice. - George Carlin

  2. Ready to lead ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    with his penis.

  3. Pandering to the Vagina Vote by Mononoke · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    No better way to sway a few Hillary supporters your way, apparently.

    It's so sad that so many Americans will fall for this trick.

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    1. Re:Pandering to the Vagina Vote by thetoadwarrior · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Of course and women will fall for it. This is yet more proof as to why women shouldn't be allowed to vote.

  4. Wouldn't that rather be "Running Maid", then? ;-) by D4C5CE · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Just to be sure about the spelling...

  5. Naked! by snspdaarf · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    For the first time, we will have a vice-president that looks good naked!

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  6. Re:Hahahah by MightyMartian · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    McCain seems to be going after the "Obama's black, but his VeePee don't have my VeePee's tits!"

    It's strategy that might just work. Perhaps Biden should look at implants.

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  7. This pick only shows how desperate McCain is... by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Wins no states, panders to the base he has to pick up to have any chance, and hopes to peel off a few stray HRC supporters. Plus, no wireless, less memory than the Nomad... Lame.

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  8. More Quotes from the Future by Nymz · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    McCain and Biden have both been around a long time, and are known factors, and thus boring. So after watching too many speeches that were so vague that either side could have read them, I decided a Q&A between Obama and Palin could be very interesting.

    Obama: What did you think of my acceptance speech, where I spoke of my vision for America based on my "belief that I am my brother's keeper"? (1)
    Palin: I can't say that appeals to me, thinking of Americans living in 2 by 3 meter shacks, and living off only a dollar a day.

    Palin: You are only 40 something, and the Junior Senator of Illinois, do you really think you have the experience to be President?
    Obama: You too are only 40 something, and the Governor of Alaska, but do you really think a woman should even be considered for vice-president? (2)

    Obama: I heard you're a NRA member, could you show me how to load a gun? Just kidding, I don't believe in the 2cd Amendment.
    Palin: I read your voting record, could you tell me how you could possibly support infanticide? Just kidding, I couldn't even consider feticide. (3)

    (1) Yes, Obama actually used that metaphor in his nomination acceptance speech, August 28th 2008.
    (2) Obama didn't even have the courtesy to vet Hillary Clinton as a possible vice-president, ouch.
    (3) Palin's 5th child, in the womb, was diagnosed with Downs Syndrome, but she kept him anyway.

    1. Re:More Quotes from the Future by pla · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Yes, Obama actually used that metaphor in his nomination acceptance speech, August 28th 2008.

      Ouch... Looks like we get to choose between a police-state and a nanny-state once again.


      Obama didn't even have the courtesy to vet Hillary Clinton as a possible vice-president, ouch.

      Why would he have? With the exception of her rabid feminist supporters (who wouldn't vote Republican even if they had Gloria Steinem as their VP candidate), most Hillary fans like Obama nearly as much... Issues-wise, they pretty much sounded identical, and they incontrovertibly both break the trend of "old white guy" as president.


      Palin's 5th child, in the womb, was diagnosed with Downs Syndrome, but she kept him anyway.

      Fifth child, defective, and she kept it anyway? Daaaaaaaamn. That alone would keep me from voting from McCain - I prefer sensible, intelligent leaders, not broodmares.

    2. Re:More Quotes from the Future by Loki_1929 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Fifth child, defective, and she kept it anyway? Daaaaaaaamn. That alone would keep me from voting
      from McCain - I prefer sensible, intelligent leaders, not broodmares.

      A child with Downs Syndrome is "defective"? I'd love to see you say that to some parents who have kids with Downs Syndrome just so I could watch them curbstomp your ass.

      And someone who doesn't abort children without a perfect genetic profile is automatically not sensible or intelligent? Her beliefs state that abortion is murder. Therefore, your line of thinking would have her murder children who are imperfect genetically. There's a word for terminating apparently inferrior human life: eugenics.

      In short, her beliefs mirrors those of the Pope.
      Your's mirror those of the Nazis.

      So please go to a support group for Downs Syndrome parents and tell them all about your beliefs. Curbstomping Nazis is a great way for people having a difficult time to get out some frustrations.

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    3. Re:More Quotes from the Future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Regardless of how any of us feel about abortion I know I can't help but respect someone who sticks to their principles...

      That depends what your principles are. If your principles are that it's wrong to kill innocent children for any reason at all, then you'd better be a hard-core pacifist.

      What I'm going to be looking at, though, is whether, now that she's had the kid, she's actually willing to care for it - or whether she dumps it on someone else. So far, it's looking like she's choosing the "dump it on someone else while I go bask in the glory of running for vice-president" option.

  9. Re:Hahahah by tzhuge · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Did you see the same Obama/Hillary race I did? The amount of overt misogyny against Hillary was absolutely shocking. There were plenty of b*tch bumper stickers for Hillary. Can you imagine the firestorm if the equivalent for Obama was wide spread?

  10. Re:I think you are a little early on your verdict. by LibertineR · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    This is America, you know? That place where you have to PROVE accusations? Without proof, its just slander. Prove it to me, and I'll say I'm wrong. Otherwise, fuck you.

  11. Cunt factor is all it is about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    The main reason this cheap ignorant inexperienced bitch got put on the ticket. The rest is to pander to the liberty and freedom raping neo-cons to be swayed to vote for a nearly dead Hanoi Hilton crybaby they have otherwise rejected. Pandering and desperately fishing for votes, how truly pathetic but that is the Republican way.

    So now they are going to try to put a worthless set of lips in the crooked house to continue the award winning Fuhrer Bush/Cheney policy of economic destruction and illegal acts of international aggression so soldiers who don't go AWOL like Cocaine George die. Gee, we are so well off right now as are future generations let's just keep washing the dishes and laundry in shit!

    Until a Libertarian candidate goes into the executive office the Constitution will continue to be burned and shredded away until we decay into a police state that screams for rebellion once again to feed the tree of liberty. Would not hurt to have those real Patriots in the legislative and judicial branches as well. (For you Republicans out there that is referring to separation of power outlined in the document you reject and deface yet created the country you seek to ruin and make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Try reading it sometime instead of an ancient book for poorly selected and wrote fairy tales you pick and choose your values from.)

    Spook/Shiester || Zombie/Cunt == Epic Phail

  12. Re:Hahahah by Brad1138 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    4 more years!

    It's one thing to like McCain, but to really want 4 more years of the worst President in American history is insane. There is no need to go into the countless things GWB has screwed up, intentionally or not, you have to be blind not to see them.

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  13. Re:I'm actually curious by D+Ninja · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Not what I was going for. What is wrong from a scientific standpoint? (The direction LWATCDR was coming from.)

  14. Good choice by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Palin is used to supporting those with Downs so she'll be able to look after McCain and his supporters with the greatest of ease.

  15. oh now. DID she ? by unity100 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    (3) Palin's 5th child, in the womb, was diagnosed with Downs Syndrome, but she kept him anyway.

    and did she ask the child about this ? guess not. how could she, after all, s/he is in the womb yet.

    let me tell you, if i was a child, i wouldnt like to be born with down syndrome, or any other kind of serious disability, and i would regret being the child of a mother who would make me live through such a tough life due to her out of touch conditioned ideas that come from some teaching from 3000 years ago from another goddamn corner of the world - middle east. yea, not 2000, 3000. it is a cultural trait of the region to repress women and use them as birthing machines not for 1000, 2000, but for over 4000 years in middle east. it only changes shape with time, adapts to modern times. they were outright despised and seen as satan at one point, and now they are repressed because 'they cant understand'. and ALL the religions out of middle east contain that characteristic.

    imagine being the child of a mother who follows these ideals and puts you through a life of suffering, whereas she had the chance of NOT doing so.

    why did she do that ? because GOD said it so.

    where did god say it so ?

    in some scripted text that is rewritten in council of nicea in 325 AD, according to byzantine emperor constantine's political wishes. (the 4 major versions of bible were compiled here, and others discredited).

    great.

  16. Re:Quote from the Future by PRMan · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    That depends. How much of the scientific method was used on the creation experiments? How much was used on the ones in the textbook? In some cases, creationists do the scientific method better. For instance, the Oort cloud is an entirely unscientific concept, as far as the scientific method goes. It had zero evidence until this week, and even that is pretty questionable for something so readily accepted as fact.

    I assume this is the type of dialog that she would want.

    Personally, I don't care if the source is alien chasers or whoever. If they have a repeatable scientific experiment, regardless of whether it is damaging to some tenet of evolution or the big bang or whatever, I want it taught!

    Anything else is censorship of the truth, and holds back the progression of scientific understanding.

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  17. Yes, im an anonymous coward (but mostly lazy) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Ok, so since when does being a geek/nerd require you to be an evolutionist. Also, im curious, would you rather have both creationism and evolutionism together in schools or NEITHER? im curious, because when you break them BOTH down, they EACH have their holes. I would personally rather see NEITHER in there than BOTH, but worse case scenario, stick them both in. I believe in letting people make their OWN decisions. And if you believe creationism is a violation of Church and State, then Evolutionism should be out too. because in some areas it IS a religion, and it has the MAKINGS and FOLLOWINGS of a religion.

  18. Re:Quote from the Future by yiantsbro · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Now see, this is exactly what she was advocating--introduce both concepts and encourage healthy debate. Debate requires constant research, exploration, and effort. This strengthens the mind and carries us forward. Having an opposing side in anything always forces additional effort and therefore accomplishments. Seems like a good idea to me.

  19. Re:Exactly. by Babu+'God'+Hoover · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    "The only place Creationism has in a science classroom is as an object lesson of something that is not science."

    Like all those other social 'sciences'.

  20. McCain thinks Palin should be President if he dies by leftie · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Let's talk about what this shows about McCain's judgment.

    If McCain drops dead walking home from the Inauguration, McCain has chosen this hockey mom who doesn't even know what the duties the Vice President are, to have a young Air Force officer with a "football" walking around behind her wherever she goes for the next 3+ years.

    You want bad judgment, there's McCain's bad judgment . He'd risk throwing this country in to the hands of some beauty queen Biblical literalist Alaska mayor of a town of 6000 to sit across the table from Vladimir Putin discussing Georgia... McCain would put this county at that kind of risk in order to pull a "Hail Mary" political stunt.

    Looks like McCain is the one we need to be asking those questions about bad judgment.

  21. Re:Hahahah by djh101010 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Oh, I'm not so sure about that. If someone who worked for me had a subordinate who was abusing his position, and failed to act, I'd ask them WTF they were doing, why, and if the answer didn't satisfy me, they'd be gone too. If I'm held responsible for the actions of those who report to me (I am), then I'm damn well going to make sure that they're responsible for that trust. If the cop reported to cop-boss, who reported to me, and they messed up bad, and cop-boss refused to fire him for it, I'd fire cop-boss. It's about accountability. No different than in my field where, say, a sysadmin does something stupid and causes (problem). If his team-lead didn't whack him hard, I'd have to whack them both. That's how leadership and accountability work.

  22. Re:Hahahah by mako1138 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    If the unthinkable happened McCain would already have a functioning administration, all the Cabinet positions would be staffed with (hopefully) competent folk, etc.

    This is what scares me the most about another Republican presidency, even more than the prospect of McCain becoming president. A competent administration? I wouldn't hold my breath.

  23. Re:Exactly. by twiddlingbits · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The statement that some dinosaurs evolved into Birds is NOT science either, it's just Darwin's Theory. Neither argument has been proven correct. And by correct I mean one animal/plant/insect changing from it's past form to a completely different present form. ADAPTATION is not the same as evolution. So if you say one is a theory by your own logic you should say the other is also, teach both theories with evidence. As far as the Earth being 6K yrs old, that's not every specifically stated in the Bible, it is also a man made theory. In fact several places it's mentioned that God doesn't have any concept of Time. Time is entirely a man-made thing.

  24. Re:Hahahah by necrognome · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Equal Opportunity hire? Dude, I suspect some serious bitterness on your part towards "various groups," ostensibly for your own lack of success in life. If there are any beneficiaries of affirmative action among these candidates, they are the son of an admiral, and his running mate, the ex-beauty queen.

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  25. Re:The "experience" meme by Atario · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    She's done budgets, personnel, and signed and vetoed legislation.

    Budgets -- in a state with lots more money coming in than going out. Wow, how tough.

    Personnel -- in Alaska? How many are we talking about here? Twelve?

    Signed and vetoed legislation -- which is, of course, nothing at all like voting yes or no for legislation. Oh wait, it's exactly like it.

    The fact is that his picking her is a transparent, cynical, and, above all, intellectually insulting attempt to sway people who to vote purely on the genitalia of their representatives.

    Let me tell you a little story. My wife came to this country after spending her first 32 years in a communist country -- and loathing it the whole time. She has spent a bit short of six years here in the US. The first words out of her mouth tonight when I got home and asked her if she heard about McCain's pick were to the effect that he's trying to get Hillary voters and he thinks they're stupid enough to do so just because she's a woman. I had to smile at her easy insight despite her lack of experience with American politics.

    The fact is, Palin is a joke and the joke's on McCain.

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  26. Re:Hahahah by Atario · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    NOW, the race hustlers, they all say one thing but what they really mean is "we support SOCIALISTS of every race, religion and sexual orientation."

    Jesus Fucking Christ. How did this idiot get modded up to +5 for anything other than a ironic Funny?

    Seriously, how many McCainPoints(tm) does this post get you? Will you be ordering that new coffee mug tomorrow? Because I've rarely seen so many of the Republican smearing-point lies concatenated together in a single post.

    Ah, gotta go now. I think I hear the Republican downmod squad coming to shove me into oblivion...

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  27. Re:nice pick by Xonstantine · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    What was that sound? Oh yeah, it was the sound of your golden boy Obama's chances going down the tubes.

  28. Re:Good choice by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Or we could have a black boy with less than two years experience take the reins...

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  29. Re:Exactly. by WgT2 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    '...evolution happens over the course of thousands of generations.'

    Really? There are direct observations of that?

    Why do you treat your 'theory' as if it were fact? It's complete conjecture. No, it's actually your faith.